K3: Mods for wide band transmiting?

[DM7ZQ]

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[Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA]

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[juergen piezo]

Hi Jeff

A weird policy really since the K3 is neither type accepted for MARS, NTIA, aeronautical or the maritime service.

Its double standards saying on the one hand that its ok to use the K3 on one particular HF service  even though its it illegal,  then go onto say that it wont be allowed on the CB service.

To me it does not matter since I use a TS480HX and its IMD performance at 100 watts  meets spectral purity standards for all HF services at 100 watts of output. The TS480HX is good radio at 100 watts of output. I use my 480HX in both my sailing and flying hobbies and it works great.

At least if you wanted to  stand on the high moral ground, out of band transmission on any non amateur band on the K3 should not be allowed. You at least would have some credibility on the issue.

73
John

--- On Sat, 12/25/10, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band transmiting?
> To: "DM7ZQ" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
> Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 9:03 PM
> Benjamin,
> Speaking from experience, the 'wideband' software 'tool'
> will indeed allow the K3 to transmit outside of most bands
> but operation on 27MHz is still recieve only even after the
> usage of said software 'tool'.
>
> Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
> Innisfail, QLD, Australia
> Elecraft K3# 4257
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: DM7ZQ
>   To: [hidden email]
>
>   Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:18 AM
>   Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band
> transmiting?
>
>
>
>   Hello Elecrafters, merry christmas,
>   how can i tune my Elecraft K3 to transmit on ´wide
> band coverage´ e.g. 11m
>   Band?
>   I know, i need an Software plug-in!? How can i get
> this?
>   Thanks for a short answer, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ
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[Gary Gregory]

I got over 11M operation shortly after gaining my amateur licence and
it surprises me that 11M operators would want to spend the money on a
K3 when there is a plethora of gear around that is still easy to
'open' up at a fraction of the cost of a K3.

In VK, 11M operations appear to be concentrated on 27.355 LSB and
27.555USB and I wonder just how many of these operators would even
consider a K3 given the price tag.

As for any 'double standard' it should be made a compliance rule that
ALL amateur gear be made extremely difficult to convert IF that is
what the authorities want. The regulator in VK appears to be not
interested in CB but rather in upping the cost to become an amateur
and licence renewal fees and chasing the commercial dollars.
Enforcement activities seem to be off their 'Radar' at the moment.

The language you here on CB down under would embarrass even a truck
driver. (OH, I was one of the drivers who avoided 11M CB)

We have an 'outback' HF service which requires SelCall ID fitted to
all radios and NO amateur rig meets with their approval so to open up
a K3 to TX on these frequencies is an exercise in futility these days.

Each of us has a differing opinion it seems which is OK with me at least.

73's
Gary
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010 at 4:09 PM, juergen <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff
>
> A weird policy really since the K3 is neither type accepted for MARS, NTIA, aeronautical or the maritime service.
>
> Its double standards saying on the one hand that its ok to use the K3 on one particular HF service  even though its it illegal,  then go onto say that it wont be allowed on the CB service.
>
> To me it does not matter since I use a TS480HX and its IMD performance at 100 watts  meets spectral purity standards for all HF services at 100 watts of output. The TS480HX is good radio at 100 watts of output. I use my 480HX in both my sailing and flying hobbies and it works great.
>
> At least if you wanted to  stand on the high moral ground, out of band transmission on any non amateur band on the K3 should not be allowed. You at least would have some credibility on the issue.
>
> 73
> John
>
> --- On Sat, 12/25/10, Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> From: Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band transmiting?
>> To: "DM7ZQ" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email]
>> Date: Saturday, December 25, 2010, 9:03 PM
>> Benjamin,
>> Speaking from experience, the 'wideband' software 'tool'
>> will indeed allow the K3 to transmit outside of most bands
>> but operation on 27MHz is still recieve only even after the
>> usage of said software 'tool'.
>>
>> Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
>> Innisfail, QLD, Australia
>> Elecraft K3# 4257
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: DM7ZQ
>>   To: [hidden email]
>>
>>   Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:18 AM
>>   Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Mods for wide band
>> transmiting?
>>
>>
>>
>>   Hello Elecrafters, merry christmas,
>>   how can i tune my Elecraft K3 to transmit on ´wide
>> band coverage´ e.g. 11m
>>   Band?
>>   I know, i need an Software plug-in!? How can i get
>> this?
>>   Thanks for a short answer, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ
>>   --
>>   View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Mods-for-wide-band-transmiting-tp5866670p5866670.html
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>> Nabble.com.
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[Nate Bargmann]

> >>   ----- Original Message -----
> >>   From: DM7ZQ

> >>   Thanks for a short answer, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ

Please note that the original poster is not under FCC jusrisdiction.
Not even close, so FCC certificated issues and other restrictions do not
apply.

Merry Christmas.

73, de Nate N0NB >>

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[DM7ZQ]

Good evening,
sorry for my ´lowbrow´ question. I do not want to do anything illegal!
Some friends have told them and I wanted to ask the reflector to learn more about this.
Please excuse - my english is not very fine. Close this question now, it´s done.
Vy 73 and thanks for the many answers.
Best regards, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ

[Don Wilhelm-4]

  Benjamin,

If you are referring to ESSB mode, the K3 already includes it, you only
need to 6 kHz filter.
That filter will also allow you to transmit AM with the K3.  If you want
FM too, you need the 15 kHz filter.  These are all generated  in the K3
DSP, no hardware mods to add these modes.  The K3 DSP also controls the
transmit bandwidth.

If I did not understand your question, please ask again.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2010 3:11 PM, DM7ZQ wrote:
> Good evening,
> sorry for my ´lowbrow´ question. I do not want to do anything illegal!
> Some friends have told them and I wanted to ask the reflector to learn more
> about this.
> Please excuse - my english is not very fine. Close this question now, it´s
> done.
> Vy 73 and thanks for the many answers.
> Best regards, 73 de Benjamin, DM7ZQ
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[Dale Parfitt-3]

This came with my K3 and I don't use a headset.  
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/7726
$35 includes U.P.S. shipping.

73,
Dale W4OP
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[Andy Wood]

Firstly, I do not want to get involved in a debate on what is (and isn't) legal - let's leave it at the technical level.

You can (or at least, used to be able to) ask Elecraft for the K3 MARS TX unlock software. Here is the information received from Elecraft:

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"Attached is the program to remove the TX Band limits so you can work MARS. Please note that this program removes *all* TX freq. limits, so it is upon you to make sure you are operating legally at the authorized frequencies. We cannot be held liable for any unauthorized operation.

Your K3 also requires a KBPF3 option if you need to tune very much away from the US ham band allocations.

The current firmware disables transmitting between 7.5 and 9 MHz at high power so the 8.215MHz trap on the KAT3 or KANT3 is not damaged.

Also, the CB band is blocked for transmit at high power. "
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After unlocking, it will TX on 27MHz, however only at low power (10-12watts). It will not engage the KPA3 on this band.

Andy  VK4KY