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>The NR pays some attention to the settings of AGC Slope and AGC Threshold...
That's why I need a primer to help me figure out the differences in settings. And the NB, too. >In the end, NR is a filter, and like any filter it will affect what is >being passed through it. The weaker the signal, the more it appears >like noise and the harder it is to separate the two... Just like the APF - try as I might, I can hear weak signals better without it. I'm unable to separate the signal from the ringing (in spite of the help and hints I've received here). Ralph, VE7XF ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Ralph,
We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010, but I guess it's time to give up on it being done. I'm with you, I'd sure like to see something.. 73, Don, WB5HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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> We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Sounds like a job I DON'T want to volunteer for..:-) 73's Gary On 17 May 2011 13:35, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Don Cunningham wrote: > > > We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... > > A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based > on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at > it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant > differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing > board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an > excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have been reading this reflector since long before the K3, and I've come to the
conclusion that the problem isn't the manual. It is the need for a more basic understanding of the technical concepts involved in amateur radio. Many new hams (and old ones) simply don't understand the basics, so no wonder they aren't sure how to set up the K3! The present Elecraft manual is a good reference (with perhaps a few additions for new features). I wouldn't advise changing it in concept. Maybe what's needed is an additional book, a much longer, discursive volume: "Amateur radio and the Elecraft K3". It would have chapters on subjects like AGC, SSB, digital modes, etc. The chapter on AGC would begin with an explanation of the function of AGC, the different parameters that define it and what are the effects of changing them. Then it would describe how to adjust them on the K3. The SSB chapter would explain the basics of an SSB signal, and how it's generated and amplified. It would explain what compression and equalization are, and how they affect the way the signal sounds and how effective it is for communication. Finally it would tell the reader how to set up the K3 for SSB. I think such a book would require a few hundred pages. A person could read the chapters that are relevant to a particular task independently, or he could read the whole book and skim over the K3-specific details. You wouldn't need to have a K3 to benefit from this. The treatment would have to be as down-to-earth, practical and non-mathematical as possible. I don't know if Elecraft should publish this book or someone else. It is possible to publish a book with little or no upfront cost and have it available electronically or even on paper on demand (see <http://www.amazon.com/Publishing-Money-home-page/b?ie=UTF8&node=15347561> for example). Elecraft wouldn't be expected to subsidize it, but of course they would need to invest some time in making sure the K3-related stuff was correct. It could be a joint effort, with various people writing chapters about subjects that they are interested in. There would need to be a primary writer/coordinator to pull it all together. I am not volunteering for this since I still have a full-time job. But I would write a chapter or two. On 5/16/2011 10:42 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Wayne > > Sounds like a job I DON'T want to volunteer for..:-) > > 73's > Gary > > On 17 May 2011 13:35, Wayne Burdick<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Don Cunningham wrote: >> >>> We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... >> >> A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based >> on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at >> it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant >> differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing >> board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an >> excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Don Cunningham wrote: > >> We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... > > A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based > on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at > it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant > differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing > board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an > excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. Wayne: I know this may not be the most popular opinion but the fact is in my opinion, you don't need an updated manual. Trying to develop the perfect manual is a complete loss leader with very little return. Trying to write a long compendium about an evolving product makes absolutely no sense to me! :-) What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful content in addition to this list. A content management system of some type (Joomla, Wiki, Knowledge-base, etc.) would not only provide a forum in which Elecraft could write more in-depth articles about various popular topics but also be self-updating to some extent. Users of Elecraft products would help in managing, updating, and contributing content on a regular basis. Obviously this has to be a managed site to some extent with Elecraft having the final say about certain types of content, but it seems to me a no brain-er that a lot of the information disseminated on the this mailing list should be aggregated to a central site. 73 -aps ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Wayne,
At least, thank you for your kind, civil response to our plea. I knew this thread would degenerate to "he's a stupid ham that can't run his rig", but you didn't go there. Don't do anything more as it seems only two of us have a problem, and that's certainly a minority. I'll either learn to do what I want to do with the K3/P3/W2 or I'll sell them and use the other rigs that work for me. Thanks for the try. 73, Don, WB5HAK ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On May 17, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: What a terrific idea! I seldom post in here -- I find it all a little too intimidating for a guy that doesn't come from a technical background. I do make use of the search function, but a fully hyperlinked wiki would be awesome. Might distribute some of the burden of the task to people who have the time to contribute. It also might help guys like me separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak on the reflector posts. 73 de Eric, KG6MZS > What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the > strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful > content in addition to this list. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I agree with Alexander . The manual is fine as is. A Wiki type online resource with company and user input would be fantastic. N1MM has recently revamped their online user guide into levels--Getting Started, Digging Deeper and References. Dave, N4QS Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Alexander Sack <[hidden email]> Sender: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:12:19 To: Wayne Burdick<[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]>; Ralph Parker<[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noise reduction On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Don Cunningham wrote: > >> We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... > > A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based > on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at > it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant > differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing > board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an > excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. Wayne: I know this may not be the most popular opinion but the fact is in my opinion, you don't need an updated manual. Trying to develop the perfect manual is a complete loss leader with very little return. Trying to write a long compendium about an evolving product makes absolutely no sense to me! :-) What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful content in addition to this list. A content management system of some type (Joomla, Wiki, Knowledge-base, etc.) would not only provide a forum in which Elecraft could write more in-depth articles about various popular topics but also be self-updating to some extent. Users of Elecraft products would help in managing, updating, and contributing content on a regular basis. Obviously this has to be a managed site to some extent with Elecraft having the final say about certain types of content, but it seems to me a no brain-er that a lot of the information disseminated on the this mailing list should be aggregated to a central site. 73 -aps ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support it deserved, it got dropped.
I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't want to see it dropped again. Beware - there are many pitfalls. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! On 17 May 2011, at 18:14, Elecraft K3 wrote: > > On May 17, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > > What a terrific idea! I seldom post in here -- I find it all a little too intimidating for a guy that doesn't come from a technical background. I do make use of the search function, but a fully hyperlinked wiki would be awesome. Might distribute some of the burden of the task to people who have the time to contribute. It also might help guys like me separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak on the reflector posts. > > 73 de Eric, KG6MZS > >> What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the >> strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful >> content in addition to this list. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF
<[hidden email]> wrote: > Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support it deserved, it got dropped. > I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't want to see it dropped again. > Beware - there are many pitfalls. > For sure. But that doesn't make it a bad idea. Was this a site officially sanctioned by Elecraft or something you started a while back? Can you elaborate on why it failed? 73 -aps ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In my opinion the manual is fine, now that I have a few months of
operation under my belt. When I just starting out with the rig I was struggling a lot. So what I personally believe is needed is the starter guide and theory of operation kind of document. This would be targeted for a new K3 owner on how to get going and why defaults are set the way the way they are. With the above in mind after you get some experience with the rig I am not sure how much you would refer to it anymore. Don KD8NNU On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:20 PM, [hidden email] wrote: > I agree with Alexander . The manual is fine as is. A Wiki type > online resource with company and user input would be fantastic. N1MM > has recently revamped their online user guide into levels--Getting > Started, Digging Deeper and References. > > Dave, N4QS > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alexander Sack <[hidden email]> > Sender: [hidden email] > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 12:12:19 To: Wayne Burdick<[hidden email]> > Cc: <[hidden email]>; Ralph Parker<[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noise reduction > > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> Don Cunningham wrote: >> >>> We were PROMISED an "enhanced" manual around Christmas, 2010... >> >> A new operating manual actually was written, by a third party (based >> on their enthusiastic pitch, we agreed to let them have a crack at >> it). But when we reviewed it last month, we had very significant >> differences over style and content. So we're back to the drawing >> board, looking for possible authors. Our own tech writer would do an >> excellent job, but he's scheduled out many months on project manuals. > > Wayne: > > I know this may not be the most popular opinion but the fact is in my > opinion, you don't need an updated manual. Trying to develop the > perfect manual is a complete loss leader with very little return. > Trying to write a long compendium about an evolving product makes > absolutely no sense to me! :-) > > What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the > strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful > content in addition to this list. A content management system of some > type (Joomla, Wiki, Knowledge-base, etc.) would not only provide a > forum in which Elecraft could write more in-depth articles about > various popular topics but also be self-updating to some extent. > Users of Elecraft products would help in managing, updating, and > contributing content on a regular basis. Obviously this has to be a > managed site to some extent with Elecraft having the final say about > certain types of content, but it seems to me a no brain-er that a lot > of the information disseminated on the this mailing list should be > aggregated to a central site. > > 73 > > -aps > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The Elecraft owners' database is still running. This was part of the
Wiki web site. Although it was originally set up for K1 & K2 owners, many of us with the K3 and XV transverters, etc, keep our entries up to date. http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> writes > >Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support >it deserved, it got dropped. >I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't >want to see it dropped again. -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I would only be interested if it was closely watched and/or moderated by Elecraft, and no one else. IMHO, the earlier attempt failed because of heavy- handed, biased editing/censuring. The Elecraft reflector meets my needs. The same content that might appear on a Wiki will most likely be here on the reflector, and therefore be properly moderated by Wayne, Eric and Don. 73! Ken - K0PP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The old Wiki site was run by one guy as a volunteer. He was somewhat proprietary with how it was run as I recall. I think Alexander and I are suggesting that Elecraft would have to support and administer the site while also accepting input from users. It does not have to be on Wiki. It could be supported directly from the Elecraft website or some other online resource.
Again, check out the fine online resources at the N1MM website as an example. You could supplement online text and photos with embedded instruction videos to help beginners and experts learn and master new features and functions. Dave, N4QS Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> Sender: [hidden email] Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 18:45:29 To: Elecraft K3<[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Reflector<[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Elecraft Wiki (was Noise reduction Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support it deserved, it got dropped. I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't want to see it dropped again. Beware - there are many pitfalls. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Do not meddle in the affairs of Dragons, For you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup! On 17 May 2011, at 18:14, Elecraft K3 wrote: > > On May 17, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Alexander Sack wrote: > > What a terrific idea! I seldom post in here -- I find it all a little too intimidating for a guy that doesn't come from a technical background. I do make use of the search function, but a fully hyperlinked wiki would be awesome. Might distribute some of the burden of the task to people who have the time to contribute. It also might help guys like me separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak on the reflector posts. > > 73 de Eric, KG6MZS > >> What you do need is an Elecraft Wiki where you can leverage the >> strong/knowledgeable/enthusiastic customer base to generate helpful >> content in addition to this list. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Guys - right now we are maxed out getting ready for Dayton. We start
flying out tomorrow. We'll revisit this after we get back. Let's let the thread rest for now. 73, Eric WA6HHQ List moderator On 5/17/2011 10:45 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support it deserved, it got dropped. > I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't want to see it dropped again. > Beware - there are many pitfalls. > > 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I know this thread is ended, just want to make it clear I wasn't suggesting Elecraft was the one not giving support and wouldn't expect them too.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. But I'm not so sure about the universe. -- Albert Einstein. On 17 May 2011, at 19:36, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Guys - right now we are maxed out getting ready for Dayton. We start flying out tomorrow. > > We'll revisit this after we get back. Let's let the thread rest for now. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > List moderator > > > On 5/17/2011 10:45 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: >> Lets not go that route again, there was one, it didn't get the support it deserved, it got dropped. >> I'll happy support it if someone puts the effort in, but I wouldn't want to see it dropped again. >> Beware - there are many pitfalls. >> >> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I think folks should realize something, here. Anytime you begin in a
new enterprise (like learning a new language, studying a new topic, beginning a new class, ..or learning to operate a new piece of equipment - aka the K3) you start out totally bewildered by the subject. Depending on the complexity and maybe your lack of background on the subject, the starting steps seem difficult and confusing. But as you begin to learn, subsequent learning comes easier as you build on what you have already learned. I found the process of becoming acquainted with the operation of the K3 fit this scenario, exactly. My first three weeks were hard and confusing until I began to learn the terminology and style of the system controls, then things picked up easier and more rapidly. The K3 is not the most complicated subject/device I have ever tried to master, but it is not the simplest, either. Anything worth mastering will likely take time. That is counter to the "Instant gratification" mood most have these days. So a wiki learning system may help, a good FAQ helps, reading the manual and trying out different settings helps, giving yourself time to learn - HELPS. What is nice about the K3 is it offers a challenge that extends beyond 15 or 30-minutes. It has capabilities that can make your experience interesting and fun for years. And since upgrades/improvements come regularly, there is no end to this. This is good! When life offers nothing new or interesting - then its time to change your life. I have many times over. I hope I never run out of new worlds to conquer and understand. Ham radio has provided this for me since I was 14-years old (1958). 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 ====================================== BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kW?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep [hidden email] ====================================== ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I learned Elecraftish from the K2. Had my fun with that for sure, as
probably does everyone that comes from a Yakencom background. I also had a hard time first learning an FT1000MP, as I did an Orion. The K3 layout philosophy developed because Elecraft started with very small boxes that required that style of button and menu. It got sorted out over time and was the main evolution of the layout paradigm in use on the K3 which allowed it to be a small and as portable as it is now. They knew it was workable because it eased up on the K2 which they already knew was workable. It's easy to do big. It's a PITA to do small right. 73, Guy. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Edward R. Cole <[hidden email]> wrote: > I think folks should realize something, here. Anytime you begin in a > new enterprise (like learning a new language, studying a new topic, > beginning a new class, ..or learning to operate a new piece of > equipment - aka the K3) you start out totally bewildered by the > subject. Depending on the complexity and maybe your lack of > background on the subject, the starting steps seem difficult and > confusing. But as you begin to learn, subsequent learning comes > easier as you build on what you have already learned. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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