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K3 Operator Error

Kjeld Holm
Thanks to Gordan and Larry.
 
I do not run the station hot. Max temp seen has been 73 degrees centigrade
(auto shut down is at 85 C). Most of the time max temp is 67 C.
 
I do have the same number of ALC bars on 80 meters as on 15 meters.
Increasing the output from my sound card just made the output totally stable
at 40 W instead of varying between 30 and 40 W. So all I got was
overloading. Mic gain is up at 50.
 
By the way RTTY is down about half of the power of that on PSK 31.
 
To the best of my knowledge PSK31 and RTTY has been up at 85 W on 80 meters
until two weeks ago.
 
Just now I noticed that for the last second or so of the transmission it
seems like I have full output also on 80 meters. BUT it is not a question of
warming up as the full output is seen only for the last second whether I am
transmitting for two seconds or for about twenty seconds.

Vy 73
OZ1CCM Kjeld

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From: Gordan Hribar [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 2. september 2009 17:41
To: Kjeld Holm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Operator Error


Hello!

Please check alc level on 80m you can adust proper level via mic. gain
control...you must have 4-5 bar on alc meter to proper drive tx power.

73,

e72x - Gordan

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From: Kjeld Holm <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Operator Error
To: [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 6:27 PM


Dear all,

Problem:
Low output on RTTY and PSK31 on 80 meters using the mode DATA-R and output
from sound card.

Situation:
Starting on 15 meters running RTTY or PSK31 with an output of about 85 W.
Using Ham Radio Deluxe switching to 80 meters, also switching antenna.
The output falls down to about 40 W.

Changing to CW (still 80 meters, same antenna) I get 85 W again like on 15
meters.

Which settting have I overlooked that brings my output down?

Vy 73
OZ1CCM Kjeld



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Re: K3 Operator Error

Kok Chen
On Sep 2, 2009, at 9/2    9:26 AM, Kjeld Holm wrote:

> Just now I noticed that for the last second or so of the  
> transmission it
> seems like I have full output also on 80 meters. BUT it is not a  
> question of
> warming up as the full output is seen only for the last second  
> whether I am
> transmitting for two seconds or for about twenty seconds.

Is this happening to you only on PSK31, or is it happening also with  
RTTY?

This behavior is (full power at the end) is fully explained by how  
PSK31 works.

In addition to phase modulation, PSK31 also applies a cosinusoidal  
envelope to the signal whenever there is a phase transition between  
two signaling symbols.  Without this envelope shaping, a PSK signal  
would be quite wide.  This is why the transmitter chain must be  
absolutely linear -- it is to maintain this sinusoidal relationship.

This envelope modulation is the reason why a PSK31 signal looks like  
two carriers separated by 31.25 Hz on the waterfall when the op at the  
other end is not typing into the keyboard.  When the idle Varicode is  
sent, the signal looks like a two-tone DSB signal that modulated by a  
15.625 Hz tone.

As a result, the power output when PSK is idling is lower than when  
you type (the variation is even greater with with QPSK31 than BPSK31;  
this is quite obvious when you compare their modulation constellations).

The original specs for PSK31 calls for a (approximately 3/4 second)  
squelch tail at the end of transmission.  Most PSK31 modems obey this  
during transmission (whether they actually use it as a squelch or not  
during receive).  Unless the software actually drops the peak power by  
3 dB during this end-of-transmission squelch, you will see the output  
power rise during this period.

Since RTTY is a 100% duty cycle mode, it will not have this behavior  
even if you transmit a prolonged mark tone at the start or at the end  
of a transmission (many software transmits a slightly prolonged mark  
just before the RTTY diddle begins). The only time you should see RTTY  
change power when transmitting is if the RTTY tone pair is right at  
the edge of a filter passband so that one tone is more attenuate then  
the other one.)

If you are also seeing the more-power-at-the-end behavior in RTTY, you  
might want to check to make sure that your transmit tone pair (from  
software) is centered in your transmitter's passband.

73
Chen, W7AY


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