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Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change.
I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA **** Jim Leder**** K8CXM since 1961 IBM retiree since 1999 There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary and those who don't. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware.
73 de Dick, K6KR > On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. > > I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. > > Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? > > BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! > > 73 ... > Jim Bob Buckeye > AKA > **** Jim Leder**** > K8CXM since 1961 > IBM retiree since 1999 > > There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary > and those who don't. > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I would like to echo Jim's request. I have the SVGA in my P3, and it's
really nice, but I don't like losing the VFO B readout when I'm decoding RTTY. It makes no sense to have a few characters being decoded on the K3 when hundreds of characters can be on the SVGA monitor. 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! 73 ... Jim Bob Buckeye AKA **** Jim Leder**** K8CXM since 1961 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I understand that the K3 is doing the decoding, but does that mean that it
must be presented in the VFO B area? 73, Jim N7US -----Original Message----- The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 firmware. 73 de Dick, K6KR > On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. > > I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the SVGA card without the above stated ability. > > Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? > > BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a LOT of gear! > > 73 ... > Jim Bob Buckeye > AKA > **** Jim Leder**** > K8CXM since 1961 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks Dick! Not the answer I was hoping to hear, but it makes sense now
that I think about it. So, the K3 utility terminal screen is the same as what as seen on a P3/SVGA. I've should have thought that out, but sometimes getting older doesn't always make it easy. You answered my question, but probably no P3/SVGA card/LCD in my future. It's pretty, but with my limited RTTY/PSK usage, not necessary to me. The P3 does what I need it to do, and 'fits' on my desk. 73 ... and Thanks! Jim ... K8CXM -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:00 AM To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]> Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA > The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the > decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through > the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB > command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its Terminal > page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in K3 > firmware. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > >> On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> >> Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to decode >> on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded output >> to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen and at >> the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would be nice >> to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I certainly have NO >> idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a firmware change. >> >> I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 >> pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the >> SVGA card without the above stated ability. >> >> Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, but >> I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? >> >> BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated >> in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a >> LOT of gear! >> >> 73 ... >> Jim Bob Buckeye >> AKA >> **** Jim Leder**** >> K8CXM since 1961 >> IBM retiree since 1999 >> >> There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand binary >> and those who don't. >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I totally agree with N7US. It sure would be nice to just preserve VFO B, and
let the decode flow to the other devices. Jim ... K8CXM -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:09 AM To: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA > Thanks Dick! Not the answer I was hoping to hear, but it makes sense now > that I think about it. So, the K3 utility terminal screen is the same as > what as seen on a P3/SVGA. I've should have thought that out, but > sometimes getting older doesn't always make it easy. > > You answered my question, but probably no P3/SVGA card/LCD in my future. > It's pretty, but with my limited RTTY/PSK usage, not necessary to me. The > P3 does what I need it to do, and 'fits' on my desk. > > 73 ... and Thanks! > > Jim ... K8CXM > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:00 AM > To: "Jim Leder (Hotmail)" <[hidden email]> > Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/P3/SVGA > >> The P3 SVGA doesn't do CW, RTTY, or PSK31 decoding. The K3 does the >> decoding and presents it in the VFO B area. A copy is available through >> the K3 serial port programmers command set, and P3 SVGA uses that TB >> command. The K3 Utility uses the same K3 decode mechanism for its >> Terminal page. The heavy lifting for TTY, PSK, and CW decoding is done in >> K3 firmware. >> >> 73 de Dick, K6KR >> >>> On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:43, "Jim Leder \(Hotmail\)" <[hidden email]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone from Elecraft, will the K3/P3/SVGA ever have the ability to >>> decode on the P3/SVGA attached big screen while NOT sending the decoded >>> output to the K3 VFO B area? I know it will decode to the large screen >>> and at the same time send that decoded text to the K3, but it sure would >>> be nice to NOT send the the decode text to the K3 VFO B area. I >>> certainly have NO idea what's involved, but it seems it might be a >>> firmware change. >>> >>> I have been debating an SVGA add-on, since I have my K3/P3 and KPA500 >>> pretty much loaded for my needs, but don't see any real benefit to the >>> SVGA card without the above stated ability. >>> >>> Seems a few others have also thought this a good idea some time back, >>> but I thought to ask again. Is it on an Elecraft 'to do' list? >>> >>> BTW, my K3/P3/KPA500 is the best ham gear I have ever owned and operated >>> in 50+ years of being a ham! Nothing else comes close. And, I have had a >>> LOT of gear! >>> >>> 73 ... >>> Jim Bob Buckeye >>> AKA >>> **** Jim Leder**** >>> K8CXM since 1961 >>> IBM retiree since 1999 >>> >>> There are 10 types of people in this world -- those who understand >>> binary >>> and those who don't. >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Also when thinking about getting a P3 and SVGA card what you see on the P3 is not what you see on the SVGA monitor if you turn on the NB. The weak signals are covered up by the noise on the SVGA screen.
The NB works great but is not carried over to the SVGA screen. Keith |
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That is because the P3 is fed from the output of the first mixer - *before* the narrow filter, IF noise blanker gate and before the DSP noise blanker. Of course, one can upgrade to the most recent beta firmware an enable the *separate* DSP noise blanking in the P3 SVGA. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2014-07-10 10:44 AM, XE3/K5ENS via Elecraft wrote: > Also when thinking about getting a P3 and SVGA card what you see on the P3 is > not what you see on the SVGA monitor if you turn on the NB. The weak > signals are covered up by the noise on the SVGA screen. > The NB works great but is not carried over to the SVGA screen. > > Keith > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-SVGA-tp7591050p7591056.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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In reply to this post by Jim Leder (Hotmail)
Having the K3 NOT display the decoded text in the VFO B area is really a point for Wayne. I'll forward that request to him. When the P3/SVGA is showing decoded text, it's doing nothing more than periodically sending "TB" commands to the K3.
Regarding the noise blanker. If you're talking about the NB feature in the P3, the plan is to add that feature to the SVGA firmware as well. Otherwise the IF output from the K3 is coming from the 1st mixer as Joe pointed out. -Paul |
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