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This may be silly, but would it be possible to configure the display as an oscilloscope? Or maybe a TDR? There seems to be a chip for everything these days, and both of those tools might be good options, if cost effective...
Haven't followed this discussion too closely, so apologies in advance if this is a dupe. 73, Julius
Julius Fazekas
N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 |
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What would you want to see? Would you want to be able to hook it to
electronics and see the waveform that you're probing? Would you want to see a time vs amplitude (oscope) waveform of what is coming off your antenna? Would you want a time vs amplitude of your TX signal? These are all very different things. Just trying to get an idea of what your use case is for this idea. Not questioning the idea just how you want to use it if you don't mind. ~Brett (KC7OTG) -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas n2wn Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:13 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought This may be silly, but would it be possible to configure the display as an oscilloscope? Or maybe a TDR? There seems to be a chip for everything these days, and both of those tools might be good options, if cost effective... Haven't followed this discussion too closely, so apologies in advance if this is a dupe. 73, Julius ----- Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3 #1875 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-thought-tp3468007p3468007.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Good points Brett, see below:
Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009 http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 #1875 > Would you want to be able to hook it to > electronics and see the waveform that you're probing? It would be nice, but not high priority > Would you want to see > a time vs amplitude (oscope) waveform of what is coming off > your antenna? This would be more useful... for the problems I might run into > Would you want a time vs amplitude of your TX signal? Think this would be the easiest item to provide, and maybe the one in highest demand. > > > These are all very different things. Just trying to > get an idea of what > your use case is for this idea. Not questioning the > idea just how you want > to use it if you don't mind. > > ~Brett (KC7OTG) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] > On Behalf Of Julius Fazekas n2wn > Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:13 PM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought > > > This may be silly, but would it be possible to configure > the display as an > oscilloscope? Or maybe a TDR? There seems to be a chip for > everything these > days, and both of those tools might be good options, if > cost effective... > > Haven't followed this discussion too closely, so apologies > in advance if > this is a dupe. > > 73, > Julius > > ----- > Julius Fazekas > N2WN > > Tennessee Contest Group > http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html > > Tennessee QSO Party > http://www.tnqp.org/ > > Elecraft K2/100 #4455 > Elecraft K3/100 #366 > Elecraft K3 #1875 > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-thought-tp3468007p3468007.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
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Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF compression/clipping? Could be a very nice tool. Bob W9RFS |
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Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option.
Andy VK4KY ************************** Bob W9RFS wrote: > Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! > Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF > compression/clipping? > Could be a very nice tool. > Bob W9RFS > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That would be impressive. You would not need it all the time. Could have a high isolation RF coax switch to switch it in when needed.
David Wilburn NM4M ------Original Message------ From: Bob W9RFS Sender: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought Sent: Aug 19, 2009 01:26 Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF compression/clipping? Could be a very nice tool. Bob W9RFS -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-P3-thought-tp3468007p3470510.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned.
73, Eric WA6HHQ ---- Andy wrote: > Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. > Andy VK4KY > > ************************** > > Bob W9RFS wrote: > >> Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be great! >> Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF >> compression/clipping? >> Could be a very nice tool. >> Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output
with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. Andy VK4KY ********************************* Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > ---- > > Andy wrote: >> Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. >> Andy VK4KY >> >> ************************** >> >> Bob W9RFS wrote: >> >>> Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be >>> great! >>> Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF >>> compression/clipping? >>> Could be a very nice tool. >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That would be nice indeed.
Vy 73 OZ1CCM Kjeld -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 19. august 2009 23:18 To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. Andy VK4KY ********************************* Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > ---- > > Andy wrote: >> Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. >> Andy VK4KY >> >> ************************** >> >> Bob W9RFS wrote: >> >>> Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be >>> great! >>> Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF >>> compression/clipping? >>> Could be a very nice tool. >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Lot's of great ideas on the P3 feature list. My personal preference
would be a plugin keyboard and the ability to operate PSK31 (and possibly other modes) using the K3/P3. I hate turning a computer on next to my gear and the monitor takes up a lot of room. 73, Doug -- K0DXV Kjeld Holm wrote: > That would be nice indeed. > > Vy 73 > OZ1CCM Kjeld > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: 19. august 2009 23:18 > To: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 P3 thought > > Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output with > an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It is then > easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. > > Andy VK4KY > > ********************************* > > Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > >> I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. >> >> 73, Eric WA6HHQ >> ---- >> >> Andy wrote: >> >>> Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. >>> Andy VK4KY >>> >>> ************************** >>> >>> Bob W9RFS wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be >>>> great! >>>> Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF >>>> compression/clipping? >>>> Could be a very nice tool. >>>> >>>> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Yes. I could retire my good old Kenwood SM-220 monitor scope then.
Philip Andy wrote: > Just to extend the idea a little more - Monitor the transceiver output > with an additional option for monitoring the amplifier output also. It > is then easy to see amplifier linearity using a trapezoid waveform. > > Andy VK4KY > > ********************************* > > Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >> I like this too. Might be a nice P3 option. Stay tuned. >> >> 73, Eric WA6HHQ >> ---- >> >> Andy wrote: >>> Yes - I was thinking of this too. It would certainly be a great option. >>> Andy VK4KY >>> >>> ************************** >>> >>> Bob W9RFS wrote: >>> >>>> Being able to use the P3 as a station monitor durring TX would be >>>> great! >>>> Could it be possible to see the RF envelope; modulation; RF >>>> compression/clipping? >>>> Could be a very nice tool. >>>> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have to say the idea of working Data modes via a KB and the P3 is
growing on me. As is sending CW, not for me, but there are ops out there with disabilities that mean the only way to send is via a k/b with very lite touch keys. 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174 -- A child, like your stomach, doesn't need all you can afford to give it. -Frank A. Clark, writer (1911- ) On 20 Aug 2009, at 16:18, Doug Person wrote: > Lot's of great ideas on the P3 feature list. My personal preference > would be a plugin keyboard and the ability to operate PSK31 (and > possibly other modes) using the K3/P3. I hate turning a computer on > next > to my gear and the monitor takes up a lot of room. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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