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M0XDF

[K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months RadCom, I see
on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its content :
"Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a USB keyboard"

Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I believe
(but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB yet), this got me to
thinking...

Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB keyboard to
paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that would produce the
appropriate contact closures?
This is far beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would allow us to
drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the paddle input.

I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the requirement is
in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert key press to contact
closure might be possible?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

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Greg - AB7R

RE: [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

I think K1EL has something similar to this called a K40? It even has the
correct "K" designation. :) But...its output is setup only for the
straight key input and not paddle input. So some mods would be required.

One of the items on the list is to accept input from the KEY jack as well as
the paddles. When done, no mods to the above item would be necessary.

73
Greg
AB7R
"Snowed in in APRIL!!!"

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of David Ferrington,
M0XDF
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:39 AM
To: "Crafters"
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months RadCom, I see
on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its content :
"Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a USB keyboard"

Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I believe
(but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB yet), this got me to
thinking...

Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB keyboard to
paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that would produce the
appropriate contact closures?
This is far beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would allow us to
drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the paddle input.

I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the requirement is
in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert key press to contact
closure might be possible?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

--
God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.
-Swedish proverb

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M0XDF

Re: [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

yes of course, what i basically need is a keyer - i hadn't thought
that through.

I'll probably avoid that since it will just tempt me to us it instead
of working on my morse.

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foot long enough to enable him to put the other somewhat higher.
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On 19 Apr 2008, at 15:17, Greg wrote:

> I think K1EL has something similar to this called a K40? It even
> has the
> correct "K" designation. :) But...its output is setup only for the
> straight key input and not paddle input. So some mods would be
> required.
>
> One of the items on the list is to accept input from the KEY jack as
> well as
> the paddles. When done, no mods to the above item would be necessary.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
> "Snowed in in APRIL!!!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of David
> Ferrington,
> M0XDF
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:39 AM
> To: "Crafters"
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB
>
>
> Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months RadCom, I see
> on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its content :
> "Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a USB keyboard"
>
> Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I believe
> (but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB yet), this got me to
> thinking...
>
> Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB keyboard to
> paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that would produce the
> appropriate contact closures?
> This is far beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
> possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would allow us to
> drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the paddle input.
>
> I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the requirement is
> in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert key press to contact
> closure might be possible?
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
> --
> God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.
> -Swedish proverb
>
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Joe Subich, W4TV-3

RE: [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

In reply to this post by Greg - AB7R

Greg,

> I think K1EL has something similar to this called a K40? It
> even has the correct "K" designation. :) But...its output
> is setup only for the straight key input and not paddle
> input. So some mods would be required.

K1EL's Keyboard to serial IC <http://k1el.tripod.com/ATKBD.html>
comes close but the output is ASCII data at 1200 or 9600 bps and
not "paddle closures." It would take a second PIC to convert
the ASCII to "paddle closures" at a fixed WPM rate appropriate
for data modes.

It would sure be nice if the factory programming port - which, with
its PCD (data), PGC (clock) and +5V signals looks suspiciously like
a nonstandard i2C (PS/2) port - could be repurposed as a keyboard
input for at least RTTY/PSK31 and maybe control of the keyer
memories.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:18 AM
> To: David Ferrington, M0XDF; "Crafters"
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB
>
>
> I think K1EL has something similar to this called a K40? It
> even has the correct "K" designation. :) But...its output
> is setup only for the straight key input and not paddle
> input. So some mods would be required.
>
> One of the items on the list is to accept input from the KEY
> jack as well as the paddles. When done, no mods to the above
> item would be necessary.
>
> 73
> Greg
> AB7R
> "Snowed in in APRIL!!!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of David
> Ferrington, M0XDF
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:39 AM
> To: "Crafters"
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB
>
>
> Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months
> RadCom, I see on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its
> content : "Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a
> USB keyboard"
>
> Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I
> believe (but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB
> yet), this got me to thinking...
>
> Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB
> keyboard to paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that
> would produce the appropriate contact closures? This is far
> beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
> possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would
> allow us to drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the
> paddle input.
>
> I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the
> requirement is in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert
> key press to contact closure might be possible?
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
> --
> God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into
> the nest. -Swedish proverb
>
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n6wg

Re: [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

In reply to this post by M0XDF

David
Some time back there was a QST article to build
a cw keyer into a keyboard. I don't know if anyone
tried to make a commerical product out of it, but
the idea has been around for a while.
A little research might turn up a product that
already does this.
73, Bob N6WG

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
To: ""Crafters"" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 3:38 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

> Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months RadCom, I
see
> on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its content :
> "Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a USB keyboard"
>
> Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I believe
> (but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB yet), this got me
to

> thinking...
>
> Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB keyboard to
> paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that would produce the
> appropriate contact closures?
> This is far beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
> possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would allow us to
> drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the paddle input.
>
> I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the requirement

is
> in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert key press to contact
> closure might be possible?
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
> --
> God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the
nest.

> -Swedish proverb
>
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hf4me

Re: [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

In reply to this post by M0XDF

The MFJ Keyer I have has the keyboard interface and when my mind gets
scrambled, I just grab the keyboard until I get calmed down. Plugs into the
key jack on the Icom at present. Key/Keyer? I would have to check.

73, Jim

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]>
To: ""Crafters"" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:38 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] PSK etc via external unit and KB

> Having just read the Waters & Stanton add in this months RadCom, I see
> on pg 2 an add for the Icom IC-7700 and its content :
> "Another first: built-in PSK31 and RTTY. Just add a USB keyboard"
>
> Apart from taking exception - it's not a first, the K3 was I believe
> (but no point complaining - K3 doesn't have a KB yet), this got me to
> thinking...
>
> Would some bright spark like to produce a very small USB keyboard to
> paddle converter kit? I would guess a PIC that would produce the
> appropriate contact closures?
> This is far beyond me in design, but while we wait for Elecraft to
> possibly add some form of keyboard interface, this would allow us to
> drive the built in PSK and RTTY in the K3 via the paddle input.
>
> I know there is the NUE-PSK unit, but since most of the requirement is
> in the K3, I thought a small unit to convert key press to contact
> closure might be possible?
>
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
> --
> God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest.
> -Swedish proverb
>
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