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K3 RTTY program

W8JH
Any suggestions on an easy to use RTTY program for the K3?  Very casual use expected.  I would like to spend my time on the air rather than reading a huge pdf manual!
73,
Joe
73,

Joe, W8JH

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Re: K3 RTTY program

Greg - AB7R
Download the latest version of MMTTY.  It is not hard to setup or use.  And after
you get use to it you can move on to more advance programs that use the MMTTY
engine in the background.

Biggest thing to remember if using AFSK-A or FSK-D on the K3 is to make sure the K3
tones match the tones set in MMTTY.  For example, if the K3 is set to 2125-170 you
want to make sure MMTTY is set for 2125 Hz.

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73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
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On Wed Sep 22 15:33 , W8JH  sent:

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>Any suggestions on an easy to use RTTY program for the K3?  Very casual use
>expected.  I would like to spend my time on the air rather than reading a
>huge pdf manual!
>73,
>Joe
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Re: K3 RTTY program

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On 9/22/2010 3:33 PM, W8JH wrote:
>
> Any suggestions on an easy to use RTTY program for the K3?  Very casual use
> expected.  I would like to spend my time on the air rather than reading a
> huge pdf manual!

Either MMTTY [RTTY only but very good and it interfaces with several
popular logging programs], or MixW.  MixW does a number of modes,
including RTTY, decoding probably isn't a good as MMTTY.  MMTTY is free,
Mixw isn't but it's not much, and you can download a 15 day free trial.
  It also includes everyday general logging capability.  Google either name.

73,

Fred K6DGW/40
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- CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010
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Re: K3 RTTY program

Don Wilhelm-4
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  Joe,

You can make your choice of several software applications - MMTTY,
fldigi, HRD/DM780, and several others - AFSK or FSK will be part of your
decision.
Download each of the applications and take a look at the user interface
and choose the one you like better.
After that, yes, you will have to "Read The Fine Manual" for that
application, and perhaps re-read the K3 Data Modes section of the manual
to see how to connect it and set the K3 for whichever FSK-D or AFSK that
you have chosen for your software application.
There are just too many combinations and personal preferences for anyone
else to tell you how you should do it.

If in the process of RTFM there is something you need clarification
about, then I am certain a pointed question here will bring you several
answers, but given the question you have asked, you will get answers
"all over the board" because there are many combinations and permutations.

I really don't want to discourage you, but that is just the way it
really is.  If you want to "do it the easy way", use MMTTY as a
soundcard application (AFSK-A not FSK-D) and connect your soundcard line
in/out to the K3 line out/in, and select PTT with DTR in both MMTTY and
on the K3 CONFIG menu.  Click the RTTY signal in the waterfall and
communicate. (yes, you will have to set the soundcard line output level
and the K3 line-in level for 4 to 5 bars of ALC (do that adjustment in
TX TEST) - do not use compression for data modes.  Click on the RTTY
signal wanted in the waterfall and make the contact.

That should get you started, but you may want to expand beyond that easy
start.  If all that does not make sense to you right now, you will have
to do some study to put it all together.  There are so many variations
and personal preferences that "spoon feeding" is not possible.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/22/2010 6:33 PM, W8JH wrote:
> Any suggestions on an easy to use RTTY program for the K3?  Very casual use
> expected.  I would like to spend my time on the air rather than reading a
> huge pdf manual!
> 73,
> Joe
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Re: K3 RTTY program

W8JH
Thanks to all who have replied both on and off reflector.

I have read a bunch of the AA5AU website stuff which is very helpful.  The only disappointment is that the K3 is not reviewed under his "RTTY Radios" tab.

I have decided to try the AFSK-A method.  After a false start I got MMTY going on receive only for now.  The tuning scope thing is a big help.  I am surprised that the K3 doesn't decode what MMTY does, I have tried the 45 and 75 setting in AFSK and nothing helps, it is as garbled as when I tried K3 Util.  It also seems that the sound output from Lin Out plug on the back (set at nor-10 in the K3) varies with the AF gain control.  Is this normal?

Getting ready for transmit I have turned off Windoze sounds and disabled the internal mic on the laptop.  I would like to leave the CM-500 plugged in for SSB use and also have RTTY ready to go.  Should Mic + Lin be set to on to make this possible?

73,

Joe, W8JH   K3 1713
73,

Joe, W8JH

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Re: K3 RTTY program

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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  If the K3's menu setting for the RTTY tone freq does not match that
used by MYTTY, they will not both decode at the same time.  Same for the
menu entry for RTTY baud rate.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft

On 9/23/2010 1:42 PM, W8JH wrote:

> Thanks to all who have replied both on and off reflector.
>
> I have read a bunch of the AA5AU website stuff which is very helpful.  The
> only disappointment is that the K3 is not reviewed under his "RTTY Radios"
> tab.
>
> I have decided to try the AFSK-A method.  After a false start I got MMTY
> going on receive only for now.  The tuning scope thing is a big help.  I am
> surprised that the K3 doesn't decode what MMTY does, I have tried the 45 and
> 75 setting in AFSK and nothing helps, it is as garbled as when I tried K3
> Util.  It also seems that the sound output from Lin Out plug on the back
> (set at nor-10 in the K3) varies with the AF gain control.  Is this normal?
>
> Getting ready for transmit I have turned off Windoze sounds and disabled the
> internal mic on the laptop.  I would like to leave the CM-500 plugged in for
> SSB use and also have RTTY ready to go.  Should Mic + Lin be set to on to
> make this possible?
>
> 73,
>
> Joe, W8JH   K3 1713
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Don Wilhelm-4
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  Joe,

The 45 and 75 are the RTTY baud rates - they must be set to the same
rate as the originating station is sending.
To decode using K3 Utility (or the VFO B text area), turn on CWT, reduce
the passband width and tune for 3 bars on each side of center in the CWT
indicator.  Most RTTY operation is at 45 bps.

If your line output level changes with the AF Gain, you must have the
CONFIG: LIN OUT menu parameter set to "=phones" - set it to "nor" - tap
the "1" button to toggle (see the manual page 20 and page 57).

The MIC + LIN menu entry is "not applicable" for data modes - so you can
leave your settings in place for SSB operation and set the MIC SEL to
LINE IN independently for data modes.  If you bring up the MIC SEL menu
entry and cycle through all the modes, you will see that it is
independent in DATA.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 9/23/2010 4:42 PM, W8JH wrote:

> I have decided to try the AFSK-A method.  After a false start I got MMTY
> going on receive only for now.  The tuning scope thing is a big help.  I am
> surprised that the K3 doesn't decode what MMTY does, I have tried the 45 and
> 75 setting in AFSK and nothing helps, it is as garbled as when I tried K3
> Util.  It also seems that the sound output from Lin Out plug on the back
> (set at nor-10 in the K3) varies with the AF gain control.  Is this normal?
>
> Getting ready for transmit I have turned off Windoze sounds and disabled the
> internal mic on the laptop.  I would like to leave the CM-500 plugged in for
> SSB use and also have RTTY ready to go.  Should Mic + Lin be set to on to
> make this possible?
>
> 73,
>
> Joe, W8JH   K3 1713
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