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K3: Remote Control Questions

Richard Thorne
After listening to the BS7H pile on 20m's today I was reminded that the
receiver in my 480 is not all that great.  Even with the 500hz crystal
filter installed, there were all kinds of artifacts from strong stations
transmitting up a few khz.  So the K3 has grabbed my attention.  A
couple of questions that are key to remote operations:

1 - I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on the
back I can turn the rig on/off.  When shorting those two pins is it
momentary or constant.  IE if I can turn a relay on and off remotely
will that relay need to stay engaged to keep the rig on?  A little more
info would be helpful.  I would rather the rig could be turned on with a
software command or the wake on serial suggestion made earlier.

2 - I use the sound card on my pc to send receive audio over the
internet.  Can I send ssb via the pc mono in on the back of the rig.  I
would assume so since psk is done in ssb.

Rich - N5ZC

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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

wayne burdick
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On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:

> After listening to the BS7H pile on 20m's today I was reminded that
> the receiver in my 480 is not all that great.  Even with the 500hz
> crystal filter installed, there were all kinds of artifacts from
> strong stations transmitting up a few khz.  So the K3 has grabbed my
> attention.  A couple of questions that are key to remote operations:
>
> 1 - I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on
> the back I can turn the rig on/off.  When shorting those two pins is
> it momentary or constant.

Momentary (at least 0.5 second). Or you can leave it on permanently, at
least until you want to turn the rig off.


> IE if I can turn a relay on and off remotely will that relay need to
> stay engaged to keep the rig on?  A little more info would be helpful.
>  I would rather the rig could be turned on with a software command or
> the wake on serial suggestion made earlier.

I can't guarantee this right now, but it's on the list.


>
> 2 - I use the sound card on my pc to send receive audio over the
> internet.  Can I send ssb via the pc mono in on the back of the rig.  
> I would assume so since psk is done in ssb.

Yes.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

N8LP
Speaking of remote control, does the K3 have a watchdog timer to stop
transmission after 3 minutes or some adjustable delay?

Larry N8LP



wayne burdick wrote:

>
> On Apr 29, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Richard Thorne wrote:
>
>> After listening to the BS7H pile on 20m's today I was reminded that
>> the receiver in my 480 is not all that great.  Even with the 500hz
>> crystal filter installed, there were all kinds of artifacts from
>> strong stations transmitting up a few khz.  So the K3 has grabbed my
>> attention.  A couple of questions that are key to remote operations:
>>
>> 1 - I understand that if I short two pins from the ACC connector on
>> the back I can turn the rig on/off.  When shorting those two pins is
>> it momentary or constant.
>
> Momentary (at least 0.5 second). Or you can leave it on permanently,
> at least until you want to turn the rig off.
>
>
>> IE if I can turn a relay on and off remotely will that relay need to
>> stay engaged to keep the rig on?  A little more info would be
>> helpful.  I would rather the rig could be turned on with a software
>> command or the wake on serial suggestion made earlier.
>
> I can't guarantee this right now, but it's on the list.
>
>
>>
>> 2 - I use the sound card on my pc to send receive audio over the
>> internet.  Can I send ssb via the pc mono in on the back of the rig.  
>> I would assume so since psk is done in ssb.
>
> Yes.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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K3: Remote Control Questions

wayne burdick
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Menu entry; max timeout still TBD. Suggestions?

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Apr 29, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Larry Phipps wrote:

> Speaking of remote control, does the K3 have a watchdog timer to stop
> transmission after 3 minutes or some adjustable delay?
>
> Larry N8LP


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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

Simon (HB9DRV)
Maybe option to stop TX unless keepalive CAT command received in the last x
seconds. While sending the software could send a keepalive message, maybe
(for much later) power down radio as well (assumption is that internet
connection lost).

Also the ability to disable TX via a hardware jumper - radio can be made
available for anyone to use for receiving but without the ability to
transmit. Later enable/disable transmit via passwords (for the radio
administrator).

Simon Brown, HB9DRV

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> Menu entry; max timeout still TBD. Suggestions?

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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

Richard Thorne
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If possible make the time variable from 0 to 10 minutes.  If not
variable a few options would work, say 3, 5 and 10 minutes.  I have my
'other' rig set for 5 minutes.  I may even drop it to 3 minutes since
most of my transmitting is for dx or contests which require short
transmissions.

If the transmitter drops out due to the timer, it needs to reset itself
so one can transmit again without having to reset the rig.

Thanks for listening/inquiring Wayne.

Rich - N5ZC


wayne burdick wrote:

> Menu entry; max timeout still TBD. Suggestions?
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Apr 29, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Larry Phipps wrote:
>
>> Speaking of remote control, does the K3 have a watchdog timer to stop
>> transmission after 3 minutes or some adjustable delay?
>>
>> Larry N8LP
>
>
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>
>
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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

N8LP
I agree... 10 min max should be enough. I use 3 min here without a
problem (but then I'm not long winded ;-)

73,
Larry N8LP



Richard Thorne wrote:

> If possible make the time variable from 0 to 10 minutes.  If not
> variable a few options would work, say 3, 5 and 10 minutes.  I have my
> 'other' rig set for 5 minutes.  I may even drop it to 3 minutes since
> most of my transmitting is for dx or contests which require short
> transmissions.
>
> If the transmitter drops out due to the timer, it needs to reset
> itself so one can transmit again without having to reset the rig.
>
> Thanks for listening/inquiring Wayne.
> Rich - N5ZC
>
>
> wayne burdick wrote:
>> Menu entry; max timeout still TBD. Suggestions?
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>> On Apr 29, 2007, at 6:40 PM, Larry Phipps wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of remote control, does the K3 have a watchdog timer to
>>> stop transmission after 3 minutes or some adjustable delay?
>>>
>>> Larry N8LP
>>
>>
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>> http://www.elecraft.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: K3: Remote Control Questions

Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR
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On Monday 30 April 2007 00:56:51 wayne burdick wrote:
> Menu entry; max timeout still TBD. Suggestions?

Sec.  97.213  Telecommand of an amateur station.
(b) Provisions are incorporated to limit transmission by the station
to a period of no more than 3 minutes in the event of malfunction in the
control link.

Three minutes seems to be the maximum to ensure that the operator
complies with FCC rules.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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