K3 Remote Control...
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Hi everyone,
Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote control of the K3? Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest. Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be similar to the OMNI VII One Plug facility. Thanks in advance. 73, Steve Banks K0PQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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At the moment remote control is via the RS232 (COM port) connector, you will
eventually be able to control all aspects of the radio. For audio there are various solutions available already. An Ethernet connector / solution has not been suggested so far. Simon Brown, HB9DRV -------------------------------------------------- From: "STEPHEN W BANKS" <[hidden email]> > > Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote > control of the K3? Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but > I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently delete a digest > forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by STEPHEN W BANKS
I believe Tree, N6TR, is already remoting the K3 using Ham Radio Delux. I think you can
also use TRX Manager. ------------------------- 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 and 0319 On Mon Mar 3 9:52 , "STEPHEN W BANKS" sent: >Hi everyone, > >Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote control of the K3? Seems like there's been some discussion about it, but I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest. > >Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be similar to the OMNI VII One Plug facility. > >Thanks in advance. > >73, > >Steve Banks >K0PQ >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by STEPHEN W BANKS
You might want to go to elecraft.com, click on "email list" and then
search the reflector archives. Probably find exactly what you need that way. Jerry W4UK At 12:52 PM 3/3/2008, STEPHEN W BANKS wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote >control of the K3? Seems like there's been some discussion about >it, but I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently >delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest. > >Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be >similar to the OMNI VII One Plug facility. > >Thanks in advance. > >73, > >Steve Banks >K0PQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I vote YES for an Ethernet connector Carry-on Bill Harris w7kxb > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email]; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Remote Control... > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:14:20 +0100 > CC: > > At the moment remote control is via the RS232 (COM port) connector, you will eventually be able to control all aspects of the radio. For audio there are various solutions available already. > An Ethernet connector / solution has not been suggested so far. > > Simon Brown, HB9DRV > > -------------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Bill Harris wrote:
> I vote YES for an Ethernet connector > > Carry-on > Bill Harris w7kxb > Yep, me too. I mentioned this back at the first announcement. Along with a simple web interface in the radio. This would make it a doddle to do memories and set up the radio. 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #455 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Why does it need to be in the radio? Do people really want an interference-generating network interface inside the case of the K3? Surely it is not beyond the capability of the ham radio accessories manufacturers to make a small embedded Linux based box using hamlib and a web server that would provide this capability to *any* radio, via the existing serial port. Such a product would enjoy a potentially much larger market than one developed specifically for the K3.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html |
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I agree and in so-doing will put more effort into a better product, better prices, etc
> > From: G4ILO <[hidden email]> > > > > > Why does it need to be in the radio? Do people really want an > interference-generating network interface inside the case of the K3? > > Surely it is not beyond the capability of the ham radio accessories > manufacturers to make a small embedded Linux based box using hamlib and a > web server that would provide this capability to *any* radio, via the > existing serial port. Such a product would enjoy a potentially much larger > market than one developed specifically for the K3. > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You can create a "one plug" by buying a serial device server from
someone like Lantronix or Digi for the control portion of the link. It connects to the K3 serial port, and converts it into an ethernet port, which can be plugged into a router/modem. Make sure you get a model that fully supports handshaking if you are using a handshaking line for CW keying or PTT. You connect to the remote port using a com port redirector program, supplied free from Lantronix and others, which creates virtual com ports for you to connect to. If you have a computer at the remote site, you can use an all software approach. HRD and TRX-Manager provide remote control options using embedded virtual ports. There are also a number of companies that provide commercial standalone virtual com port programs. Google "virtual com port" for some options. My upcoming LP-Bridge program will allow connecting a K3 to multiple control programs at the same time. To begin with, it will provide connecting one real port (the K3) to a number of virtual ports (for loggers, PSK programs, CW-Skimmer, etc.), and conditions traffic to/from the K3 to prevent collisions and optimize data flow. I plan to provide at least one "network" port on the K3 side of the bridge as well. The program will be free like my other programs, or very low cost shareware. The program will also provide an extensive software bridge to PowerSDR to support the LP-PAN panadapter. You can read about LP-Bridge on my website, www.telepostinc.com. Click on the LP-PAN link. 73, Larry N8LP > > At 12:52 PM 3/3/2008, STEPHEN W BANKS wrote: > >> >Hi everyone, >> > >> >Can any of you tell me what, if any, possibilities exist for remote >> >control of the K3? Seems like there's been some discussion about >> >it, but I subscribe to the Digest reflector mode and frequently >> >delete a digest forgetting to copy and save a particular post of interest. >> > >> >Just wondering how/if anything is planned for the K3 that will be >> >similar to the OMNI VII One Plug facility. >> > >> >Thanks in advance. >> > >> >73, >> > >> >Steve Banks >> >K0PQ >> Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Ian Maude
For RS-232 to Ethernet these might be very interesting:
<http://www.ethernut.de/>. Also see <http://www.ethernut.de/en/community/appliances.html> vy 73 de toby _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi,
Be careful what you ask for; you might get it. When the Ten-tec Omni 7 was announced with an Ethernet port offering direct Internet access, I thought it was a wonderful development. But a year later, after following the activity on their Yahoo group, I am not so sure anymore. Remember, the engineers at Elecraft and Ten-tec are radio engineers, not Web developers. It's quite clear that the folks at Ten-tec are expending enormous efforts on putting things right in the network world and they are still not there. Somebody - I think it was here - suggested that people with the right expertise develop a small Linux box that would bridge the serial port to Ethernet and that may be a more sensible way to go. Right now I doubt if adding an Ethernet port for the K3 should be the priority task giving the limited engineering resources available. 73 de ab2tc - Knut Not yet an E3 owner but still looking for an excuse to trade up
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Larry et al,
On 4 Mar 2008 at 9:40, Larry Phipps wrote: > You can create a "one plug" by buying a serial device server from > someone like Lantronix or Digi for the control portion of the link. It > connects to the K3 serial port, and converts it into an ethernet port, > which can be plugged into a router/modem. Make sure you get a model > that fully supports handshaking if you are using a handshaking line > for CW keying or PTT. You connect to the remote port using a com port > redirector program, supplied free from Lantronix and others, which > creates virtual com ports for you to connect to. we have tried successfully such an approach for remote controlling a transceiver and Pactor Modem via the Internet. I was running Airmail, connected to a virtual port on my PC. This virtual port was bridged over the Internet and forwarded from the distant router to the IP-serial converter. The Ptc-2 modem was connected to the serial port of the converter. I could use all functions of the modem and remote control the transceiver. (38k4 serial Baudrate). Your LP-Bridge sounds very promising - looking forward to all these possibilities when my K3 is here. 73! de Werner OE9FWV -- Free puppies... Part German shepherd - Part stupid dog PGP-Key: <http://www.qsl.net/oe9fwv/furlan.asc> Fone +43 5522 75013 Fax +43 820 555 85 2621 Mobile +43 664 6340014 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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ab2tc wrote:
> Hi, > > Be careful what you ask for; you might get it. When the Ten-tec Omni 7 was > announced with an Ethernet port offering direct Internet access, I thought > it was a wonderful development. If you really want to go high end, include an optical Ethernet interface. Wired ethernet tends to give problems with RFI. If you hear a steady signal around 14030, that's Ethernet. Cost? Probably too high for comfort for most of us. But you may come across something surplus. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by STEPHEN W BANKS
I really can't imagine why anyone would want to put a 20MHz clock
inside a sensitive HF radio... If you want ethernet control, I suggest that you google "ethernet serial port". You'll find a handful of boxes for under $100 that have a serial port on one end and an ethernet port on the other. I'll be that if you buy one for yourself and one to send to Simon, he'll have HRD talking to it and a K3 in short order :-) 73 de chris K6DBG _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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chris K6DBG said:
If you want ethernet control, I suggest that you google "ethernet serial port". You'll find a handful of boxes for under $100 that have a serial port on one end and an ethernet port on the other. As I understand it, the serial port will not pass audio. How would the box help here? Kurt K0ARO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by STEPHEN W BANKS
Some Linksys wireless routers have two serial ports at logic level
on the PCB. Linksys firmware doesn't support them. Install OpenWRT and add a couple of level shifters and a mundane router becomes very versatile. Versions 1 to 4 of the WRT54G are compatible with OpenWRT and so is the one I have, WRT54GL. Many more from other manufacturers are supported. http://openwrt.org http://toh.openwrt.org Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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