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P.B. Christensen

K3 & RemoteRig

Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3 and
K3-mini. A few questions:

1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there a way
to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades, SDR-IQ control,
etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesn’t appear to apply here since the K3 is not
connected as a PC COM port;

2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting? I've
tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought perhaps the K3
mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the receive audio.

3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is excellent.
It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of the speaker amp.
Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the AF control?

4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a K3 at
the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the remote site, will
the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some way let the user know
that the K3 is being tied up by another user? Or, must we rely on the green
PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?

Tnx!

Paul, W9AC

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Rick Tavan N6XI

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

1) Yes. There are a 9-pin connector and a USB-Mini connector on the front
panel of the Control-RRC that can connect to your computer COM or USB port.
Then your computer "sees" the remote radio as if it were local. I think
these two connectors are "either-or;" you can't use them both concurrrently.

2) I haven't found any local mic monitor using a real K3-real K3
connection. You can turn up the monitor on the remote K3 using the local
K3's MIC control and then hear yourself, but the delay is aggravating.

3) Not sure what you want here. You should be able to turn down the volume
of the remote K3 with the AF Gain control of the Mini. If that makes the CW
sidetone too quiet, there is a control for that in one of the RRC menus;
not convenient but at least it's there.

4) Dunno; never tried that.

73,

/Rick N6XI

Sorry, no answers to your other questions.

On Sat, May 16, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Paul Christensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3 and
> K3-mini. A few questions:
>
> 1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there a
> way to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades, SDR-IQ
> control, etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesn't appear to apply here since the
> K3 is not connected as a PC COM port;
>
> 2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting? I've
> tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought perhaps the K3
> mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the receive audio.
>
> 3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
> louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is excellent.
> It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of the speaker amp.
> Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the AF control?
>
> 4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a K3
> at the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the remote site,
> will the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some way let the user
> know that the K3 is being tied up by another user? Or, must we rely on the
> green PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?
>
> Tnx!
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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P.B. Christensen

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

Rick, thanks for your comments. Regarding question #3:

> “3) Not sure what you want here. You should be able to turn down the volume of the remote K3 with the AF Gain control of the Mini. If that makes the CW sidetone too quiet, there is a control for that in one of the RRC menus; not convenient but at least it's there.

Like local mode, the CW sidetone is not adjustable with the AF control when running remote with the K3/K3-Mini/RemoteRig. But that’s not the issue. The issue is that the speaker gain is excessive, picks up significant digital noise, and blasts the CW sidetone regardless of whether the sidetone comes back from the K3 at the remote site (with normal latency), or the locally injected sidetone from RemoteRig. If I access the RemoteRig menu and reduce the sidetone level, then it’s too low when using headphones.

The K3-Mini’s receive audio and sidetone is excellent with headphones. The problem is with the gain distribution of only the speaker amp after the K3-Mini’s AF control. It’s as if the speaker amp is running without any negative feedback. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough, but I don’t see a schematic of the K3-Mini on the Elecraft website. So it’s difficult to localize the problem without it. I’ll likely open up a trouble ticket with Elecraft on Monday morning.

Paul, W9AC
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P.B. Christensen

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

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Another question concerning the K3 with RemoteRig...

We have two ops for the site. Can we each load our own profiles when the K3-Mini boots up? What we need is for the K3 at the remote site to load the profile from the K3-Mini. Not sure if there’s a memory location within the K3-Mini that allows this data to be exported to the K3. What we don’t want to is to spend ten minutes tinkering our way out of the other op’s favorite settings (e.g., CW sidetone freq, filters, EQ, etc.).

A much more detailed K3-Mini operating manual is needed that would answer these time-consuming questions. Again, if this information is published, someone please pass it along. Many Tnx!

Paul, W9AC

From: Paul Christensen
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:42 AM
To: Rick Tavan N6XI
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

Rick, thanks for your comments. Regarding question #3:

> “3) Not sure what you want here. You should be able to turn down the volume of the remote K3 with the AF Gain control of the Mini. If that makes the CW sidetone too quiet, there is a control for that in one of the RRC menus; not convenient but at least it's there.

Like local mode, the CW sidetone is not adjustable with the AF control when running remote with the K3/K3-Mini/RemoteRig. But that’s not the issue. The issue is that the speaker gain is excessive, picks up significant digital noise, and blasts the CW sidetone regardless of whether the sidetone comes back from the K3 at the remote site (with normal latency), or the locally injected sidetone from RemoteRig. If I access the RemoteRig menu and reduce the sidetone level, then it’s too low when using headphones.

The K3-Mini’s receive audio and sidetone is excellent with headphones. The problem is with the gain distribution of only the speaker amp after the K3-Mini’s AF control. It’s as if the speaker amp is running without any negative feedback. Maybe I’m not looking hard enough, but I don’t see a schematic of the K3-Mini on the Elecraft website. So it’s difficult to localize the problem without it. I’ll likely open up a trouble ticket with Elecraft on Monday morning.

Paul, W9AC
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Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

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I was in Dayton when you sent this and a bit behind my mails. I believe
I read most replies, so I will only answer the ones I do not believe
were already answered (apologies for any duplication):

- Never turn monitor (CW or SSB) on while running remote. Even the
slightest latency will drive you crazy. Use the RRC's sidetone for CW
and there is no solution for SSB.

- You can change the RRC's CW sidetone volume by going into the control
RRC's menu "CW settings" and change "Side tone -db" to a more reasonable
level.

- Only one can access a K3 at a time. The other parties will receive a
busy tone when attempting a connect. This will not disturb the other
user, so trying it won't hurt anyone. We have implemented chat and
logging systems to let us know who is using the station, there are a lot
of solutions on the market.

The RemoteRig Forum at http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php is a
wealth of information for anyone using RemoteRig.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

Mitch Wolfson
DJØQN / K7DX
Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn
Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436
Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378

On 17.05.2015 04:08, Paul Christensen wrote:

> Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3
> and K3-mini. A few questions:
>
> 1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there
> a way to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades,
> SDR-IQ control, etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesn’t appear to apply
> here since the K3 is not connected as a PC COM port;
>
> 2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting?
> I've tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought
> perhaps the K3 mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the
> receive audio.
>
> 3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
> louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is
> excellent. It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of
> the speaker amp. Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the
> AF control?
>
> 4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a
> K3 at the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the
> remote site, will the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some
> way let the user know that the K3 is being tied up by another user?
> Or, must we rely on the green PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?
>
> Tnx!
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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P.B. Christensen

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

Mitch and all...

First, the term "remote" below refers to the tower site. The control site is where the op controls the K3/0 or K3-mini.

The main issue is in trying to access the K3 Utility on the PC sitting next to the remote K3 while RemoteRig is connected. We can use VNCRemote or TeamViewer to access K3 Utility on the remote PC. Most importantly, I am not trying to flash the K3 remotely over the Internet. We just want communication between the K3 Utilty and the PC via RemoteRig's spare COM1 port.

Specifically, what I am trying to accomplish is saving/recalling the K3 profiles with the K3 Utility so that two ops using our remote site are not spending ten minutes tinkering our way out of the last guy's favorite settings. It would have been great if the K3 had just enough internal storage to save profiles, even if for just two or three users. But since that's not the case, we must rely on the K3 Utility to recall the profiles. But RemoteRig gets in the way because it is attached to the K3's serial connector at the remote site. As mentioned before, RemoteRig does have a spare COM1 serial port, supposedly for this purpose and CAT control. Here's what I've done to date.

1) All hardware flashed to the latest versions (K3 and RemoteRigs). I am using the latest version of K3 Utility and also the beta version tried;
2) A high quality FTDI USB to serial COM port adapter connects between the PC and the RemoteRig's serial COM1 port. The USB and is assigned COM7 on the PC;
3) The PC has been checked to ensure the latest FTDI drivers;
4) On the remote side of the RemoteRig, there's a menu, "Serial Settings" to select different communication protocols for the RemoteRig's COM1 port (the port attached with the USB/serial converter);
5) Opening the K3 Utility and selecting COM7 should establish communication between the K3 Utility and the remote K3 THROUGH RemoteRig. But it doesn't. The K3 Utility keeps searching the port speed with no connection.
6) The RemoteRig manual seems to indicate it is possible to connect in such a way and even shows a picture detailing a device connected on RemoteRig's COM1.

Has anyone had success in using the K3 Utility with RemoteRig connected at the same time?

Paul, W9AC

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX" [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: Paul Christensen; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

I was in Dayton when you sent this and a bit behind my mails. I believe I read most replies, so I will only answer the ones I do not believe were already answered (apologies for any duplication):

- Never turn monitor (CW or SSB) on while running remote. Even the slightest latency will drive you crazy. Use the RRC's sidetone for CW and there is no solution for SSB.

- You can change the RRC's CW sidetone volume by going into the control RRC's menu "CW settings" and change "Side tone -db" to a more reasonable level.

- Only one can access a K3 at a time. The other parties will receive a busy tone when attempting a connect. This will not disturb the other user, so trying it won't hurt anyone. We have implemented chat and logging systems to let us know who is using the station, there are a lot of solutions on the market.

The RemoteRig Forum at http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php is a wealth of information for anyone using RemoteRig.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

Mitch Wolfson
DJØQN / K7DX
Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn
Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436
Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378

On 17.05.2015 04:08, Paul Christensen wrote:

> Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3
> and K3-mini. A few questions:
>
> 1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there
> a way to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades,
> SDR-IQ control, etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesn’t appear to apply
> here since the K3 is not connected as a PC COM port;
>
> 2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting?
> I've tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought
> perhaps the K3 mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the
> receive audio.
>
> 3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
> louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is
> excellent. It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of
> the speaker amp. Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the
> AF control?
>
> 4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a
> K3 at the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the
> remote site, will the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some
> way let the user know that the K3 is being tied up by another user?
> Or, must we rely on the green PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?
>
> Tnx!
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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Chris Tate - N6WM

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

Attempting to flash the firmware through the RRC is a no go. I have to go up to the remote site periodically to bypass the RRC rs232 and update the firmware on the K line at my station. Its a bit dangerous because I do believe you get get the utility to talk to the K3 through it... I think this is specified clearly in the manuals.. but its been a while since I went through them.
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Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:17 AM
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

Mitch and all...

First, the term "remote" below refers to the tower site. The control site is where the op controls the K3/0 or K3-mini.

The main issue is in trying to access the K3 Utility on the PC sitting next to the remote K3 while RemoteRig is connected. We can use VNCRemote or TeamViewer to access K3 Utility on the remote PC. Most importantly, I am not trying to flash the K3 remotely over the Internet. We just want communication between the K3 Utilty and the PC via RemoteRig's spare COM1 port.

Specifically, what I am trying to accomplish is saving/recalling the K3 profiles with the K3 Utility so that two ops using our remote site are not spending ten minutes tinkering our way out of the last guy's favorite settings. It would have been great if the K3 had just enough internal storage to save profiles, even if for just two or three users. But since that's not the case, we must rely on the K3 Utility to recall the profiles. But RemoteRig gets in the way because it is attached to the K3's serial connector at the remote site. As mentioned before, RemoteRig does have a spare COM1 serial port, supposedly for this purpose and CAT control. Here's what I've done to date.

1) All hardware flashed to the latest versions (K3 and RemoteRigs). I am using the latest version of K3 Utility and also the beta version tried;
2) A high quality FTDI USB to serial COM port adapter connects between the PC and the RemoteRig's serial COM1 port. The USB and is assigned COM7 on the PC;
3) The PC has been checked to ensure the latest FTDI drivers;
4) On the remote side of the RemoteRig, there's a menu, "Serial Settings" to select different communication protocols for the RemoteRig's COM1 port (the port attached with the USB/serial converter);
5) Opening the K3 Utility and selecting COM7 should establish communication between the K3 Utility and the remote K3 THROUGH RemoteRig. But it doesn't. The K3 Utility keeps searching the port speed with no connection.
6) The RemoteRig manual seems to indicate it is possible to connect in such a way and even shows a picture detailing a device connected on RemoteRig's COM1.

Has anyone had success in using the K3 Utility with RemoteRig connected at the same time?

Paul, W9AC

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX" [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: Paul Christensen; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

I was in Dayton when you sent this and a bit behind my mails. I believe I read most replies, so I will only answer the ones I do not believe were already answered (apologies for any duplication):

- Never turn monitor (CW or SSB) on while running remote. Even the slightest latency will drive you crazy. Use the RRC's sidetone for CW and there is no solution for SSB.

- You can change the RRC's CW sidetone volume by going into the control RRC's menu "CW settings" and change "Side tone -db" to a more reasonable level.

- Only one can access a K3 at a time. The other parties will receive a busy tone when attempting a connect. This will not disturb the other user, so trying it won't hurt anyone. We have implemented chat and logging systems to let us know who is using the station, there are a lot of solutions on the market.

The RemoteRig Forum at http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php is a wealth of information for anyone using RemoteRig.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

Mitch Wolfson
DJØQN / K7DX
Neubiberger Str. 21, 85640 Putzbrunn
Skype: mitchwo - Home:+49 89 32152700 - Mobile:+49 172 8374436
Echolink: 3001 - IRLP: 5378

On 17.05.2015 04:08, Paul Christensen wrote:

> Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3
> and K3-mini. A few questions:
>
> 1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there
> a way to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades,
> SDR-IQ control, etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesn’t appear to apply
> here since the K3 is not connected as a PC COM port;
>
> 2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting?
> I've tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought
> perhaps the K3 mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the
> receive audio.
>
> 3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
> louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is
> excellent. It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of
> the speaker amp. Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the
> AF control?
>
> 4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a
> K3 at the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the
> remote site, will the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some
> way let the user know that the K3 is being tied up by another user?
> Or, must we rely on the green PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?
>
> Tnx!
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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P.B. Christensen

Re: K3 & RemoteRig

I must not have been communicating this very well. We are NOT trying to
flash the K3 through the Internet. We simply want the K3 Utility to connect
to the K3 while RemoteRig is connected and running. The purpose is only to
save/recall profiles. Nothing more. However, Elecraft Support just
confirmed this is impossible when RemoteRig is connected, and that's a huge
disappointment for us -- but it's the reality of the situation.

Paul, W9AC

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Tate - N6WM [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 2:52 PM
To: Paul Christensen; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

Attempting to flash the firmware through the RRC is a no go. I have to go
up to the remote site periodically to bypass the RRC rs232 and update the
firmware on the K line at my station. Its a bit dangerous because I do
believe you get get the utility to talk to the K3 through it... I think this
is specified clearly in the manuals.. but its been a while since I went
through them.
________________________________________
From: Elecraft [[hidden email]] on behalf of Paul
Christensen [[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:17 AM
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

Mitch and all...

First, the term "remote" below refers to the tower site. The control site
is where the op controls the K3/0 or K3-mini.

The main issue is in trying to access the K3 Utility on the PC sitting next
to the remote K3 while RemoteRig is connected. We can use VNCRemote or
TeamViewer to access K3 Utility on the remote PC. Most importantly, I am
not trying to flash the K3 remotely over the Internet. We just want
communication between the K3 Utilty and the PC via RemoteRig's spare COM1
port.

Specifically, what I am trying to accomplish is saving/recalling the K3
profiles with the K3 Utility so that two ops using our remote site are not
spending ten minutes tinkering our way out of the last guy's favorite
settings. It would have been great if the K3 had just enough internal
storage to save profiles, even if for just two or three users. But since
that's not the case, we must rely on the K3 Utility to recall the profiles.
But RemoteRig gets in the way because it is attached to the K3's serial
connector at the remote site. As mentioned before, RemoteRig does have a
spare COM1 serial port, supposedly for this purpose and CAT control. Here's
what I've done to date.

1) All hardware flashed to the latest versions (K3 and RemoteRigs). I am
using the latest version of K3 Utility and also the beta version tried;
2) A high quality FTDI USB to serial COM port adapter connects between the
PC and the RemoteRig's serial COM1 port. The USB and is assigned COM7 on the
PC;
3) The PC has been checked to ensure the latest FTDI drivers;
4) On the remote side of the RemoteRig, there's a menu, "Serial Settings" to
select different communication protocols for the RemoteRig's COM1 port (the
port attached with the USB/serial converter);
5) Opening the K3 Utility and selecting COM7 should establish communication
between the K3 Utility and the remote K3 THROUGH RemoteRig. But it doesn't.
The K3 Utility keeps searching the port speed with no connection.
6) The RemoteRig manual seems to indicate it is possible to connect in such
a way and even shows a picture detailing a device connected on RemoteRig's
COM1.

Has anyone had success in using the K3 Utility with RemoteRig connected at
the same time?

Paul, W9AC

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mitch Wolfson, DJØQN / K7DX" [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2015 10:40 AM
To: Paul Christensen; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 & RemoteRig

I was in Dayton when you sent this and a bit behind my mails. I believe I
read most replies, so I will only answer the ones I do not believe were
already answered (apologies for any duplication):

- Never turn monitor (CW or SSB) on while running remote. Even the slightest
latency will drive you crazy. Use the RRC's sidetone for CW and there is no
solution for SSB.

- You can change the RRC's CW sidetone volume by going into the control
RRC's menu "CW settings" and change "Side tone -db" to a more reasonable
level.

- Only one can access a K3 at a time. The other parties will receive a busy
tone when attempting a connect. This will not disturb the other user, so
trying it won't hurt anyone. We have implemented chat and logging systems to
let us know who is using the station, there are a lot of solutions on the
market.

The RemoteRig Forum at http://www.remoterig.com/forum/index.php is a wealth
of information for anyone using RemoteRig.

73,
Mitch DJ0QN

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On 17.05.2015 04:08, Paul Christensen wrote:

> Still getting used to a recently installed RemoteRig used with my K3
> and K3-mini. A few questions:
>
> 1) Since the K3's RS-232 port is wired directly to RemoteRig, is there
> a way to access control of the RS-232 port for firmware upgrades,
> SDR-IQ control, etc.? As it is, LP-Bridge doesnt appear to apply
> here since the K3 is not connected as a PC COM port;
>
> 2) Any means to monitor mic audio on the K3 mini while transmitting?
> I've tried bringing up MON audio, but nothing heard. I thought
> perhaps the K3 mini would inject local mic monitor audio into the
> receive audio.
>
> 3) K3 mini speaker audio is extremely loud and the CW sidetone is even
> louder. However, receive audio and sidetone in headphones is
> excellent. It's as if there's a gain structure problem just ahead of
> the speaker amp. Any way to easily reduce speaker amp gain after the
> AF control?
>
> 4) Consider a situation where two K3 minis are each trying to access a
> K3 at the remote site. When one of the K3 minis connects to the
> remote site, will the other K3-mini's display read "busy" or in some
> way let the user know that the K3 is being tied up by another user?
> Or, must we rely on the green PWR/connect light on RemoteRig?
>
> Tnx!
>
> Paul, W9AC
>
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Re: K3 & RemoteRig

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For those of you running a K3 + RemoteRig station with multiple users, this
may be of interest. Although we could not get the K3 Utility to communicate
with the tower site K3 using RemoteRig's spare COM port, another list member
suggested Win4K3 Suite software. I can report that the software does pass
the COM data through RemoteRig to the K3. For remote site operations with
multiple users, this means each op can now save and recall their favorite
user settings in a personal profile. With Win4K3, all K3 settings are
polled and saved in about ten seconds at the standard 38.4Kbps transfer
speed.

Paul, W9AC

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