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........... Still would like to see a "Li SN" assignment, for those first production - buying hams. We the "Leap of Faith" K3 supporters. Or a Special SN, or a functional item inside K3, not normally there. (positraction, 3 dueces, muncy 4-speed, etc.) Heck - even an "Li Knob" Fred, N3CSY supporters club - (NOT founders!) ____________________________________________________________________________________Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection in the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_html.html _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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John Harper, AE5X, wrote:
I've never understood the fixation some Elecraft-owners have with their rigs' serial number. I was wondering how long it would be before someone with common sense came along. I completely agree with Mr. Harper that we Elecraft owners are much too enamored with serial numbers. These aren't limited-edition European china used for affairs-of-state at Buckingham Palace and autographed by the queen. For heavens sake, they're just radios ... boxes of wires, metal, carbon, plastic, and other unsentimental material. No less a company than Collins is notorious for non-sequential numbering. In fact, the only way of dating a KWM-2 is by the date-numbers etched onto the sides of the crystal-cases, and that's assuming the crystals are original to the rig (and that they had numbers in the first place which not all did). We Americans seem to have developed a propensity over the last decade or so for fawning after "idols-du-jour," both human and material. Except to a poorly developed ego, it makes not one scintilla of difference when a given "box" is manufactured, sold, purchased, or "modular-ated." Elecraft as a company, unique as it is, exists to transfer money from your pockets to the owners' pockets. That they have done so by producing a quality product and answering emails is commendable, but that is not their (nor my, nor yours if you're honest) ultimate goal. A comfortable retirement is. That one can have fun and create enjoyment for others along the way is icing on the cake. But the cake is capitalism. Let's get off the kneelers, cool the incense, stop with the mantras and chants, and be adults about this whole K3 business before it becomes the cult it already has. My opinion only . . . 73, Kent Trimble, K9ZTV Jefferson City, MO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 10:25:43PM -0500, K9ZTV wrote:
> Let's get off the kneelers, cool the incense, stop with the mantras and > chants, and be adults about this whole K3 business before it becomes the > cult it already has. apparently you haven't ventured close enough to the swirling vortex of the reality distortion field to have been sucked in yet... ;-) 73, -- Jeff _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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K3 announced on reflector at 1 a.m. Missouri time. At 8:15 a.m. they
had my credit card number. I am officially one of the "distorted." Kent Jeff Davis wrote: >apparently you haven't ventured close enough to the swirling vortex of the >reality distortion field to have been sucked in yet... > >;-) > >73, > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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K9ZTV wrote:
> K3 announced on reflector at 1 a.m. Missouri time. At 8:15 a.m. they > had my credit card number. I am officially one of the "distorted." I wonder if the "Elecraft distorted" will join the "Norcal Zombies" in radio history? If you don't know what I'm talking about, somebody (not me) can explain it. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by KENT TRIMBLE
You've just discovered there's a side of existence you've yet to experience.
It's the same as those who have, for centuries, hewn wood, rolled iron into huge plates, woven hemp into stout ropes and enlisted hundreds of other inanimate objects in a huge construction effort. Then they thoughtfully give it a name, christen it like a new-born baby, and set it afloat on the waters of the world. Why would anyone do that to an inanimate object like a ship? Because it's the sane, human thing for them to do! You are free to experience this, or not. That's the beauty of it. It does not require anyone to participate but those for whom it is important. Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of K9ZTV John Harper, AE5X, wrote: I've never understood the fixation some Elecraft-owners have with their rigs' serial number. I was wondering how long it would be before someone with common sense came along. I completely agree with Mr. Harper that we Elecraft owners are much too enamored with serial numbers. These aren't limited-edition European china used for affairs-of-state at Buckingham Palace and autographed by the queen. For heavens sake, they're just radios ... boxes of wires, metal, carbon, plastic, and other unsentimental material. No less a company than Collins is notorious for non-sequential numbering. In fact, the only way of dating a KWM-2 is by the date-numbers etched onto the sides of the crystal-cases, and that's assuming the crystals are original to the rig (and that they had numbers in the first place which not all did). We Americans seem to have developed a propensity over the last decade or so for fawning after "idols-du-jour," both human and material. Except to a poorly developed ego, it makes not one scintilla of difference when a given "box" is manufactured, sold, purchased, or "modular-ated." Elecraft as a company, unique as it is, exists to transfer money from your pockets to the owners' pockets. That they have done so by producing a quality product and answering emails is commendable, but that is not their (nor my, nor yours if you're honest) ultimate goal. A comfortable retirement is. That one can have fun and create enjoyment for others along the way is icing on the cake. But the cake is capitalism. Let's get off the kneelers, cool the incense, stop with the mantras and chants, and be adults about this whole K3 business before it becomes the cult it already has. My opinion only . . . 73, Kent Trimble, K9ZTV Jefferson City, MO _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On May 20, 2007, at 8:57 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
> You've just discovered there's a side of existence you've yet to > experience. > It's the same as those who have, for centuries, hewn wood, rolled > iron into > huge plates, woven hemp into stout ropes and enlisted hundreds of > other > inanimate objects in a huge construction effort. Then they > thoughtfully give > it a name, christen it like a new-born baby, and set it afloat on > the waters > of the world. > > Why would anyone do that to an inanimate object like a ship? > Because it's > the sane, human thing for them to do! Well, I'm not much for anthropomorphizing objects. My radios are just radios and they behave as they do because of the laws of physics. Likewise my boat or my airplanes. They are machines, nothing more and nothing less. The better care I take of them the more reliable they will be. The more attention I give to dealing with possible failure modes, the more reliable they are. Still, the scary thing is that nowadays people don't really think about building anything. They think they have to buy it, that the few people who build things are somehow endowed with special skill or knowledge. This is why I am teaching hands-on science mixed with various shop skills to my students. I want them to know that they can get some wood, some sheet metal, a handful of parts, and build just about anything they want. No mystery and no magic. Does anyone know if Elecraft has some sort of educational discount? 73 de Brian, WB6RQN Brian Lloyd - brian HYPHEN wb6rqn AT lloyd DOT com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 5/20/07 5:55:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes: > My radios are just > radios and they behave as they do because of the laws of physics. > Likewise my boat or my airplanes. They are machines, nothing more and > nothing less. I disagree! I say they are much more. Whenever you see something that was manufactured - that is, something intentionally made by people - you're seeing someone's thought and effort made real. Whether it's a building, a radio, a vehicle, a painting or an apple pie, they didn't just happen. People made them happen, not just the laws of physics. When I look at the Elecraft product line, from the KX1 to the K3, I don't just see radios and radio accessories. I see the creative vision to imagine those radios, the practical skills to turn that vision into real products, the business sense to make them in quantity at reasonable, competitive prices, and the management know-how to coordinate all the people and processes involved. *and* the resulting community, on the air, on-line, in person, etc. The better care I take of them the more reliable they > > will be. The more attention I give to dealing with possible failure > modes, the more reliable they are. > Of course. But there's a lot more to it. The original design has a lot to do with reliability, too. > Still, the scary thing is that nowadays people don't really think > about building anything. They think they have to buy it, that the few > people who build things are somehow endowed with special skill or > knowledge. That's a side effect of increased specialization. Modern society tends to value and reward extremely specialized skills at the expense of general knowledge. This is why I am teaching hands-on science mixed with > > various shop skills to my students. I want them to know that they can > get some wood, some sheet metal, a handful of parts, and build just > about anything they want. No mystery and no magic. I say there *is* a magic to it, but not the card-trick kind of magic. It's the magic of realizing what a person can do - which is often much more than what they think they can do. IMHO, one of the biggest differences between happy, upbeat people and depressed, negative people is that the former are enthused about and energized by the possible, and the latter are defeated and downtrodden by the not-possible. What oufits like the Elecraft folks have done is to expand the possible. 73 de Jim, N2EY > > Does anyone know if Elecraft has some sort of educational discount? > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brian Lloyd-6
I fully agree - our "machines" are much more than
just an assemblence of physics and mechanical contraptions. I've always known this. If one has ever worked an original idea from start, to a U.S. Patent award - one knows how much of one's heart and soul went into it! Or have they built a boat from a scratch pile of lumber - to a floating fine-running craft - they too know this. Or built a major portion of one's home - what they end up with, is not just a pile of mechanics, physics, and structural beams. In fact I think the human element - is the major element in all of these complex or unique systems, be they mechanical, electrical, software, or nautical in nature. Ask a team, who created and designed a unique new radio, or a unique new VLSI computer chip - and I'm pretty sure they know what that extra element is. Creativity, dreams, hopes, human skills hones do a fine degree ............ Anyone in U.S. industry has learned over the past decade - the concept of the human team approach, vs what practicality would project what the effort of "N" individuals would be. The team human approach - will often be greater than the sum of the N parts. What caused this gain? Physics? Math? Newton's 3rd law? Of course - I've never been called a pragmatist either. The human element is key, IMHO. Why do we think for the ages - we've called these dear possessions, by the name "she"? Or "he"? What all of this has to do with S/N Plates, I don't know. This snowbird - is about to head north - for cooler climes. Dreaming about my K3 ............. she will be a great HF radio, for me. Fred, N3CSY ____________________________________________________________________________________Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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