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Don Rasmussen
I heard from Elecraft this afternoon (Sunday) -
woohoo!!! - None other than Miss Lisa Jones herself.

"What are you wearing?", I asked.

"My Elecraft sweatshirt" she replied.

Oh baby!

So they confirmed my K3 order, all the info as
expected, and will be shipping within days.

The order date was May 10 and I was -certain- that I'd
have a K3 by the August 31 target date. I even dialed
in from vacation to find out.

True, if Elecraft were AES, HRO, or Yaesu on this
order I would have hired an attorney by now but guess
what - they aren't. They are my friends and neighbor
hams right here in California putting their hopes,
dreams, blood and sweat into a custom built
transceiver, in the traditional spirit of amateur
radio.

Works for me. ;-)

Don
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Ken Kopp
Nice posting, Don! (:-))

Lisa in an Elecraft sweatshirt .... oh my!
Isn't she a joy!

Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY!  
This alone says volumes about the folks in Aptos ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Don Wilhelm-4
Yes, the folks in Aptos are working 7 days a week to handle the K3
backlog.  Let's hope they don't suffer from overload stress too much
longer - this same kind of effort has been going on since early
December,  those folks are on the verge of burn-out IMHO.

So for those who are so very disappointed about the schedules, Yes, I
believe you should cancel your order.  The others who are waiting for
delivery of their K3 will be happier for it, it means that they will get
theirs sooner - they will be able to enjoy the K3 with the functions now
available (and the added functions to follow as development efforts
allow) and you can wait until everything is firmly in place before
placing your order for the K3.  Those who order now can expect delivery
in about 4 months - that is quite a reduction from those who ordered in
mid-May 2007 who are now receiving their K3s after an 8 month wait.  The
shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do
not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being
kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made
public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available -
well, it "ain't 'go-na happen".

If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
information do some folks need?

73,
Don W3FPR

Ken Kopp wrote:
> Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY!  This alone says
> volumes about the folks in Aptos ...
>
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

N4GW
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I agree Ken,

I have received an eMails from Lisa a few Sundays ago regaridng my order.  It was a pleasent surprise.  Of course I never asked her what she was wearing...hi hi

Mike, N4GW

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> Nice posting, Don! (:-))
>
> Lisa in an Elecraft sweatshirt .... oh my!
> Isn't she a joy!
>
> Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY!
> This alone says volumes about the folks in Aptos ...
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> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

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Exactly.

I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled
to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Do
they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of
negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access
to proprietary company information? Ridiculous!


If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the road. Don't
take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and Flex laugh
in your faces when you demand the same of them.

Don Wilhelm wrote:

| The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do
| not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being
| kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made
| public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available -
| well, it "ain't 'go-na happen".
|
| If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
| 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
| mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
| right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
| information do some folks need?
|
| 73,
| Don W3FPR


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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Alexandr Kobranov
My reaction to all this "dicussion" is to upgrade my order - adding
some filters and transverer i/f and TCXO. Will be done in next days.
Will wait for KRX3 - no problem. The price for perfect functionality
will be OK for me.

GL,
73!
L. -ok1dst-


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> Exactly.
>
> I have yet to figure out what makes these people think they're entitled
> to know anything other than the publicly released shipping schedule. Do
> they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of
> negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access
> to proprietary company information? Ridiculous!
>
>
> If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the road. Don't
> take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and Flex laugh
> in your faces when you demand the same of them.
>
> Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> | The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do
> | not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being
> | kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made
> | public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available -
> | well, it "ain't 'go-na happen".
> |
> | If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
> | 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
> | mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
> | right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
> | information do some folks need?
> |
> | 73,
> | Don W3FPR
>
>
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Joe-aa4nn
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Over the phone a gentleman should never ask a lady what she was wearing.
de Joe, aa4nn

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> I have received an eMails from Lisa a few Sundays ago regaridng my order.
> It was a pleasent surprise.  Of course I never asked her what she was
> wearing...hi hi
>
> Mike, N4GW

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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Ken Kopp
Hi Joe,

Yes, usually you'd be correct .... except there are some who
"know" Lisa. (:-))  'Tis all tongue-in-cheek.

She "knows" many of us and hopefully her "knowledge" is (mostly)
positive.

Long ago I told I'd give her a kiss if she could help with an "issue".
She did.  She would have helped anyway, but sent her a BIG Hershey's
chocolate kiss "thank you" ... bought by my wife. (:-))

Humor is good for the soul ...

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP

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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Rick Dettinger
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> If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
> 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
> mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
> right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
> information do some folks need?
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
Eric indicated that the "equation" is non linear.  Therefor, I think we need
at least one more data point.  Somewhere around, say, a July 25 order date.
Just as a for instance, of course. :)
73
Rick Dettinger
K7MW


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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Nelson Wittstock
My K3 was ordered on 27 July and I was told it would be shipped in November.
Needless to say I am eagerly awaiting the real shipping date.

Nelson, K8DJC


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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

NZ0T
In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
I called Aptos recently to order a couple of inexpensive components for my K2 and they were friendly and very helpful.  If they are stressed, and I'm sure they are, it did not show at all.  With two kids in college I have no radio fund but when I can I will be ordering a K3.  Every time I compare the rx of my K2/100 to any of the Icom's I own I am reminded that good things are worth waiting for.

Don Wilhelm wrote
Yes, the folks in Aptos are working 7 days a week to handle the K3
backlog.  Let's hope they don't suffer from overload stress too much
longer - this same kind of effort has been going on since early
December,  those folks are on the verge of burn-out IMHO.

So for those who are so very disappointed about the schedules, Yes, I
believe you should cancel your order.  The others who are waiting for
delivery of their K3 will be happier for it, it means that they will get
theirs sooner - they will be able to enjoy the K3 with the functions now
available (and the added functions to follow as development efforts
allow) and you can wait until everything is firmly in place before
placing your order for the K3.  Those who order now can expect delivery
in about 4 months - that is quite a reduction from those who ordered in
mid-May 2007 who are now receiving their K3s after an 8 month wait.  The
shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now and I just do
not understand those who seem to believe there are some secrets being
kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made
public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made available -
well, it "ain't 'go-na happen".

If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
information do some folks need?

73,
Don W3FPR

Ken Kopp wrote:
> Take note, guys ... Lisa called him on a SUNDAY!  This alone says
> volumes about the folks in Aptos ...
>
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RE: K3 Silver tongued devil

Joe Subich, W4TV-3
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> I have yet to figure out what makes these people think
> they're entitled to know anything other than the publicly
> released shipping schedule.

Customers are entitled to accurate and up to date information
on their order status.  Like many others, when I ordered I was
given a "November" ship date.  That date obviously was not and
could not have been met.  

There has never been an accurate update of shipping date vs.
order date posted here.  The only information is postings from
"the fortunate" when their unit is shipped/received and the all
too rare update of the target date for "new orders."  As it is,
those in the "first build without deposits" and the "second
build" have no idea if their radios will ship next week or
in three months.  

I understand it takes manpower to make updated notifications
when the schedule slips (again) and that manpower is also needed
to process current shipments.  However, an accurate shipping
estimate and an update when that date changes by more than
a week (or two) is a reasonable standard for any company.  
That level of "customer communication" is basic "business
courtesy" that any company which expects to stay in business
for the long term owes its customers as a fundamental part of
any transaction.  

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 



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> Exactly.
>
> I have yet to figure out what makes these people think
> they're entitled
> to know anything other than the publicly released shipping
> schedule. Do
> they think their deposits, assuming all of the nattering nabobs of
> negativism have paid a deposit, allow them some kind of special access
> to proprietary company information? Ridiculous!
>
>
> If you don't like it, get your money back and head down the
> road. Don't
> take it too personal when Icom, Kenwood, Yaesu, Ten-Tec, and
> Flex laugh
> in your faces when you demand the same of them.
>
> Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> | The shipping schedule has been publicized for some time now
> and I just do
> | not understand those who seem to believe there are some
> secrets being
> | kept - certainly the number of outstanding orders will not be made
> | public, and some seem to insist that just that data be made
> available -
> | well, it "ain't 'go-na happen".
> |
> | If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently
> shipping 15 to
> | 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
> | mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
> | right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
> | information do some folks need?
> |
> | 73,
> | Don W3FPR
>
>
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Re: K3 Silver tongued devil

Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
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Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for
our backlog. :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
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Don Wilhelm wrote:

>> If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
>> 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
>> mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
>> right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
>> information do some folks need?
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>    
>
>  
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RE: K3 Silver tongued devil

Brett Howard
Glad to hear it!  Least there will be food on the table and all the hard
work is paying off!  From the sounds of it you've got quite the amazing kit
yet again.  Couple rough edges but these are to be expected in a pilot
build.  

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Don's numbers are way low both for our current shipping rate and and for
our backlog. :-)

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
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Don Wilhelm wrote:

>> If you want to "know the numbers", Elecraft is currently shipping 15 to
>> 20 K3s per week, and if the shipping date for current orders is
>> mid-April, then there is somewhere between 255 and 340 K3s on order
>> right now - simple calculation reveals that result - what more
>> information do some folks need?
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>    
>
>  
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