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Doug Turnbull

[K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

Friends,

I am getting into trouble when checking ST0R on other bands and then
returning back to my original band. If listening to ST0R on 80M and
changing bands to see how they are progressing on 40M when changing back to
80M the K3 is no longer operating split. My mind does not function that
well and I screw up by transmitting on ST0R's frequency. It would be
useful if the split was maintained, VFO A and B frequencies are still there
but the split is not activated. Now perhaps there are problems with this
that I do no see such as when changing bands while not working a specific
station but is there a way to make this failing of mine and I suspect others
less likely. Too much is expected of Elecraft people and every improvement
seems to make further complications.

It sure would be nice to have a pod for the M1-M4 buttons rather than
keep the finger on an outstretched arm poised over M2 to send my call.

Thank you Elecraft, there is a penalty for listening to your users
but you are most appreciated.

73 Doug EI2CN

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Val-12

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

Doug,

In the config menu change SPLT SV to YES. The split will be memorized per
band. Vy useful when chasing DXpedition

73 Val LZ1VB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Turnbull" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

> Friends,
>
> I am getting into trouble when checking ST0R on other bands and then
> returning back to my original band. If listening to ST0R on 80M and
> changing bands to see how they are progressing on 40M when changing back
> to
> 80M the K3 is no longer operating split. My mind does not function that
> well and I screw up by transmitting on ST0R's frequency. It would be
> useful if the split was maintained, VFO A and B frequencies are still
> there
> but the split is not activated. Now perhaps there are problems with this
> that I do no see such as when changing bands while not working a specific
> station but is there a way to make this failing of mine and I suspect
> others
> less likely. Too much is expected of Elecraft people and every
> improvement
> seems to make further complications.
>
>
>
> It sure would be nice to have a pod for the M1-M4 buttons rather than
> keep the finger on an outstretched arm poised over M2 to send my call.
>
>
>
> Thank you Elecraft, there is a penalty for listening to your users
> but you are most appreciated.
>
>
>
> 73 Doug EI2CN
>
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N7US

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

In reply to this post by Doug Turnbull

I liked the pod that I had when I had an OMNI VI.

I find it easier to use a logging program for sending CW messages rather
than using the K3's M1-M4 buttons. I think all of the logging programs have
that capability. My general logger is the DXLab Suite
(http://dxlabsuite.com/) which has that functionality in its WinWarbler
module, and it has 32 memories.

I added a microHAM microKEYER II several months ago, which consolidated
several boxes that I had, including a Winkeyer USB, two FSK interfaces, and
a SteppIR tuning relay, and replaced several serial ports with one USB to
control everything.

One of the capabilities that I like is its built in Winkeyer. Besides the
CW/Phone/RTTY messages in WinWarbler, the MKII's router program, which
creates several virtual serial ports, has messages that can be used in
addition to the messages in WinWarbler. Those messages can be initiated by
a PS/2 keyboard or numeric keypad, which is what I use, connected to the
MKII. Being a retired accountant, I am more comfortable tapping the keys on
the numeric keypad, which I found on eBay, rather than using the F-keys on
the computer keyboard for WinWarbler or the buttons on the K3. Using a
computer keyboard or a numeric keypad eliminates any wear and tear on the
radio's switches.

BTW, WinWarbler, as with N1MM (and others?), can send voice messages from
the K3's DVR too, again avoiding the need to tap the M buttons on the K3.

I'm into ease of operation and ergonomics!

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----

Friends,

<snip>

It sure would be nice to have a pod for the M1-M4 buttons rather than
keep the finger on an outstretched arm poised over M2 to send my call.

73 Doug EI2CN

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Doug Turnbull

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

In reply to this post by Val-12

Val and Roger,
Thank you this is what was needed. Sorry to add to traffic
unnecessarily.
73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 31 July 2011 12:14
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

Doug,

In the config menu change SPLT SV to YES. The split will be memorized per
band. Vy useful when chasing DXpedition

73 Val LZ1VB

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Turnbull" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 1:39 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

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Doug Turnbull

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

In reply to this post by N7US

Jim,
Thank you for your points. I use Micro-Keyer II and WInTest when
contesting but continue paper logging for normal operation. I do not like
reverting to hand sending when using MK II. I do it but find problems
which are inexplicable but my fist deteriorates when doing this. The K3
memories and keyer do not cause me any difficulties. Just possibly it is
time for an external memory keyer so that I can just press a handy button
but then the problem will return on those occasions when a SSB DX station is
being chased.

The K3 is so complete that it is a shame to start adding redundant
accessories. It was only this week that I found how ridiculously easy it is
to go on RTTY with this fine radio and ST0R has now been worked on three
different bands using RTTY the first Q was on the first call, the second
took three calls and the third took a couple of hours so beginner's luck
does run out.

Maybe it is time for this dinosaur to change to computer logging.
Thank you once again for your suggestions.

73 Doug EI2CN

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald
Sent: 31 July 2011 13:16
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

I liked the pod that I had when I had an OMNI VI.

I find it easier to use a logging program for sending CW messages rather
than using the K3's M1-M4 buttons. I think all of the logging programs have
that capability. My general logger is the DXLab Suite
(http://dxlabsuite.com/) which has that functionality in its WinWarbler
module, and it has 32 memories.

I added a microHAM microKEYER II several months ago, which consolidated
several boxes that I had, including a Winkeyer USB, two FSK interfaces, and
a SteppIR tuning relay, and replaced several serial ports with one USB to
control everything.

One of the capabilities that I like is its built in Winkeyer. Besides the
CW/Phone/RTTY messages in WinWarbler, the MKII's router program, which
creates several virtual serial ports, has messages that can be used in
addition to the messages in WinWarbler. Those messages can be initiated by
a PS/2 keyboard or numeric keypad, which is what I use, connected to the
MKII. Being a retired accountant, I am more comfortable tapping the keys on
the numeric keypad, which I found on eBay, rather than using the F-keys on
the computer keyboard for WinWarbler or the buttons on the K3. Using a
computer keyboard or a numeric keypad eliminates any wear and tear on the
radio's switches.

BTW, WinWarbler, as with N1MM (and others?), can send voice messages from
the K3's DVR too, again avoiding the need to tap the M buttons on the K3.

I'm into ease of operation and ergonomics!

Jim N7US

-----Original Message-----

Friends,

<snip>

It sure would be nice to have a pod for the M1-M4 buttons rather than
keep the finger on an outstretched arm poised over M2 to send my call.

73 Doug EI2CN

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n7ws

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

In reply to this post by Val-12

Now if [LOCK] was memorized per band it would be even more helpful.

--- On Sun, 7/31/11, Val <[hidden email]> wrote:

Doug,

In the config menu change SPLT SV to YES. The split will be memorized per
band. Vy useful when chasing DXpedition

73 Val LZ1VB

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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

In reply to this post by Doug Turnbull

> I do not like reverting to hand sending when using MK II. I do it but
> find problems which are inexplicable but my fist deteriorates when
> doing this.

Experiment with the Paddle Mode (Accu-keyer, Curtis, or Ultimatic
modes), paddle memory on/off, Auto Space on/off and Paddle setpoint.
As with any WinKey based device, those settings make a great deal
of difference in the "feel" of the keyer.

> Just possibly it is time for an external memory keyer so that I can
> just press a handy button but then the problem will return on those
> occasions when a SSB DX station is being chased.

microKEYER II has both CW memory keyer as well as DVK available for
adding just the PS/2 keypad. 'Twas quite interesting to work ST0R
last night on phone without every picking up the microphone - just
two memories in the microKEYER II DVK.

> Maybe it is time for this dinosaur to change to computer logging.
> Thank you once again for your suggestions.

If you're using it for contesting, you are most of the way there <G>.
Once most people adopt computer logging for their daily operation
they rather quickly (once they get over the initial learning curve)
wonder why they waited so long. DXLab Suite (my favorite) and Logger32
are both very powerful, free packages ... there are also a couple of
good "commercial" loggers if one of the free ones does not suite your
particular needs. No matter what logging software you decide to try,
take it one step at a time any by all means read the manuals.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 7/31/2011 9:12 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote:

> Jim,
> Thank you for your points. I use Micro-Keyer II and WInTest when
> contesting but continue paper logging for normal operation. I do not like
> reverting to hand sending when using MK II. I do it but find problems
> which are inexplicable but my fist deteriorates when doing this. The K3
> memories and keyer do not cause me any difficulties. Just possibly it is
> time for an external memory keyer so that I can just press a handy button
> but then the problem will return on those occasions when a SSB DX station is
> being chased.
>
> The K3 is so complete that it is a shame to start adding redundant
> accessories. It was only this week that I found how ridiculously easy it is
> to go on RTTY with this fine radio and ST0R has now been worked on three
> different bands using RTTY the first Q was on the first call, the second
> took three calls and the third took a couple of hours so beginner's luck
> does run out.
>
> Maybe it is time for this dinosaur to change to computer logging.
> Thank you once again for your suggestions.
>
> 73 Doug EI2CN
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jim McDonald
> Sent: 31 July 2011 13:16
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R
>
> I liked the pod that I had when I had an OMNI VI.
>
> I find it easier to use a logging program for sending CW messages rather
> than using the K3's M1-M4 buttons. I think all of the logging programs have
> that capability. My general logger is the DXLab Suite
> (http://dxlabsuite.com/) which has that functionality in its WinWarbler
> module, and it has 32 memories.
>
> I added a microHAM microKEYER II several months ago, which consolidated
> several boxes that I had, including a Winkeyer USB, two FSK interfaces, and
> a SteppIR tuning relay, and replaced several serial ports with one USB to
> control everything.
>
> One of the capabilities that I like is its built in Winkeyer. Besides the
> CW/Phone/RTTY messages in WinWarbler, the MKII's router program, which
> creates several virtual serial ports, has messages that can be used in
> addition to the messages in WinWarbler. Those messages can be initiated by
> a PS/2 keyboard or numeric keypad, which is what I use, connected to the
> MKII. Being a retired accountant, I am more comfortable tapping the keys on
> the numeric keypad, which I found on eBay, rather than using the F-keys on
> the computer keyboard for WinWarbler or the buttons on the K3. Using a
> computer keyboard or a numeric keypad eliminates any wear and tear on the
> radio's switches.
>
> BTW, WinWarbler, as with N1MM (and others?), can send voice messages from
> the K3's DVR too, again avoiding the need to tap the M buttons on the K3.
>
> I'm into ease of operation and ergonomics!
>
> Jim N7US
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> Friends,
>
> <snip>
>
> It sure would be nice to have a pod for the M1-M4 buttons rather than
> keep the finger on an outstretched arm poised over M2 to send my call.
>
>
> 73 Doug EI2CN
>
>
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KD3RF

Re: [K3] Split, changing bands and ST0R

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Doug -

Try downloading K-Keys from the Elecraft software downloads area.

Assigns function keys and ctrl key combinations to k3 functions.

Easy to use and user programmable. Developed by a friend of mine KE3C exactly in response to the "hovering the finger" challenge you mentioned...

73 de Andy, KD3RF/ vE2DXY