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K3 Status Update: August 29, 2007
Note from Eric: I apologize for not posting earlier. I planned on posting an update for everyone before I left town for the JA Ham Fair last week, but ran out of time. So you can blame this delay in status on me (and the Marketing dept.) instead of the Engineering dept. Our revised target for the beginning of K3 shipments is now September 17th. The K3 shipping date is now primarily determined by delays in K3 part deliveries, PC boards and completed assemblies from our vendors. The remaining handful of delayed parts are scheduled to arrive this week and early next week. There are less than ten different parts in this category, but it only takes one part not arriving (or arriving with the incorrect value) to delay production. Every time this has happened our PCB stuffing operation has had to halt working on one board and move to another while the part problem is resolved. The final four raw PC boards took 2 weeks longer than expected and they arrive tomorrow. (There are a total of 16 PC boards in the basic K3/10.) Also, our sheet metal fabricator has taken several weeks longer than they projected to supply us with painted and silk-screened K3 chassis parts. Final K3 sheet metal is now scheduled to arrive in Aptos on Friday. Our field testers and engineering team have done an excellent job over the last four weeks thrashing out the K3's design, assembly manual and operational features. (Thanks guys!) Wayne, Lyle and the rest of our engineering team have been working 7 day weeks incorporating the Field Tester's suggestions and making sure the K3 meets their expectations and hopefully yours. We've field tested the first release of the assembly manual and we are now testing the latest update. The KNB3 noise blanker was the last core board completed for the K3. It was released to production last month and is one of the best performing noise blankers I've used. It includes 8 different NB gain levels and has two stages of internal AGC, along with three separate widths of blanking. The net result is that I have been able to remove almost anything my local power company, electric fences and noisy autos and can throw at it. And combined with Lyle's latest version of the DSP NB, we have a formidable tool for interference reduction. (The hardware and DSP noise blankers can be used simultaneously to reduce a wide range of pulse type interference.) We are receiving assembled K3 boards in Aptos now and are testing them in preparation for their inclusion in K3 kits and assembled units. So far we have received, or will receive this week, initial shipments of a number of the K3 board assemblies, including the front panel, mixer, audio and digital I/O, PLL, crystal filter and transverter I/O boards. We appreciate your patience as we get the final pieces in place to ship your K3s. From now until we ship we will post weekly updates on K3 shipping here on the Elecraft list and on our web page. We'll also be posting the pre-release version of the K3 assembly manual on our web site later this week to give you a feel for what is coming. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Wayne, N6KR _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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From: "Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft" <[hidden email]> > > We appreciate your patience as we get the final pieces in place to ship > your K3s. > Thanks Eric, main thing is that you and Wayne stay same. I've had friends crack up running similar operations to yours - best ship late and stay sane. The Ham Radio community needs you and the K3 :-) Simon HB9DRV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hallo Eric, Wayne & the rest of the Gang of K3,
Thank you very much for the detailed update! While the new delay is a pity, I much prefer that you take your time, do it right, get some sleep, spend time with your loved ones and continue find delight in doing what are doing. vy 73 de toby _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks for the update, Eric. I know the K3 is going to be worth the
wait. Anticipation is part of the pleasure, like thinking about that cool pint of beer after a long walk in the mountains, when you can see the pub in the distance but it takes longer than expected to actually get there. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 8/30/07, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > K3 Status Update: August 29, 2007 > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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One example of many pleasant discoveries for K3 owners, and unique to the
K3, is the feature of receiving and transmitting data modes wholly with a stand-alone K3. No external hardware or software specific to FSK or PSK is needed. Moreover, the user interface to carry on a digital mode QSO is incredibly simple. In a telegram, received text is scrolled in the VFO-B display area and transmission is encoded CW from the paddle or message memories. The value of this to me personally is that I can easily work a quick QSO, say a DXpedition getting on RTTY or PSK for a short while, by simply turning on the K3 and "doing it". No PC to boot, no RTTY or PSK application to load, no special cables or software configuration to get working again since my last digital foray. My main Ham radio interest is CW contesting and also, as of three years ago, RTTY contesting. Occasionally, I'll chase an interesting DXpedition and several times I've tried to get PSK working well enough to make one QSO with them. But, not normally operating PSK, I've never gotten it fully working here and the effort for one QSO has been more than I was willing to invest. Take the N8S Swains Island DXpedition earlier this year. They operated a fair amount of RTTY and had a few runs on PSK31. Three fellow contest club members were on that trip and I had fun trying to work as many band-modes as I could. CW and SSB were easy, but RTTY was a hassle and PSK31 never happened for me. Despite my often setting up for a full-blown SO2R RTTY contest, it requires some rewiring and re-configuration of my station, not to mention booting a PC and loading MMTTY or whatever RTTY application. And, then when I wanted to work another CW band QSO, I'd have to reconfigure the station back again. Not a big deal, but annoying. For PSK31, I actually tried WriteLog's PSK capability and couldn't get it to work. AA5AU recommended DigiPan and I downloaded that and tried to get it to work, but again to no avail in the short time I fooled with it. Had the K3 been available to me, I would have simply turned it on, set the frequency, set bandwidth and tapped MODE into DATA mode. Next, I would have held DATA MD and then rotated VFO-B to select FSK (and VFO-B to select 45 bps), held TEXT DEC and rotated VFO-B to select ON, and finally selected the tones by holding PITCH and rotating VFO-A to select a 915 Hz Mark tone with a 170 Hz shift. I then would have tuned in N8S, tapping CWT to enable the FSK tuning indicator if desired, and their FSK text would have scrolled across the VFO-B display area. Easy! Wonderful! And, there's more! To answer N8S's CQ, I would have sent 'DE W0YK W0YK' with the CW paddle. The K3 would have translated my CW to FSK with the Mark frequency zero beat to N8S and the Space frequency shifted 170 Hz. Since I seldom send CW at 60 wpm to keep up with the 45 baud RTTY rate, I might have loaded some message memories with the 2-3 messages needed to have a DXpedition QSO. If the N8S operator knew me and took a minute to rag chew and ask about the latest Giants results, I'd have just carried on by sending CW to the K3 which in turn sends FSK to N8S. In the monitor, I'd hear my CW for feedback and also the RTTY Mark and Space tones at a more subdued volume so I'd be completely aware of what is going on. And, had the K3 been available to me during the Swains operation, I would have easily worked them on PSK31 using the same technique. Let me be clear. This capability will not replace my PC/Soundcard/WriteLog/MMTTY/HAL DXP38/etc. serious contesting setup. (... yet. I can foresee the day when the K3 decoder might be as good as the best external decoders and it will interface to my CW logging program while running RTTY.) What the K3 now provides me is the ability to work the occasional digital mode QSO with the ease of operating a CW QSO, and no additional hardware or software. I suspect the K3 will be responsible for getting more people introduced to digital mode operation. Already several of the K3 field testers, in fact chief engineer N6KR himself, have worked their first RTTY QSO ever with the K3, because it was so easy to get on the data modes. K3 owners will each have their own similar experiences with the other rich and robust capability built into the K3, not only at initial release but via future releases as well. This, on top of an exceptional performance basic radio makes the K3 the hot rig to have on your operating table. 73, Ed - W0YK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Does the K3 decoder decode CW?
-- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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In a recent message, Julian G4ILO <[hidden email]> wrote ...
>Does the K3 decoder decode CW? Yes, and PSK31, RTTY and Hellschreiber. -- David G4DMP Leeds, England, UK ------ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It's great that we are closing in on the first deliveries now. Being in
the line for the 2nd production run I can't wait to hear for all you lucky First-Production-Run-Guys. I am actually quite satisfied with the delays! In my daily work in a production company with R&D as an important parameter for us I know that projects of a certain complexity and size normally presents you with hick-ups delaying the plans. Either you deal with them up front (which might delay the project) or you end up spending 10 times the resources fighting with "after-sales issues". I don't know why, but I some how forgot that when I bought my FT-2000 last year... :-( Fortunately I got my money back just in time to order the K3 ;-) IMHO the communication from Elecraft is unparalleled and combined with the delays it sends a clear signal that those guys are very professionel & devoted in supplying the ham community with the best of the best more than they care about the ever important cash flow. This is indeed unlike some of the other players in the market... The day Wayne, Eric & Co. decides to retire in order to catch up with the family and actually make some QSO's as well, will be a sad day for our community. Well, back to work... take care! 73, Per oz5abo _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hellschreiber? You're kidding, right?
-- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 8/30/07, David Pratt <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Yes, and PSK31, RTTY and Hellschreiber. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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In reply to this post by Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ
No problem guys... I'm happy to wait. I ran into the same problems on a much smaller scale (2 PCBs, ~110 part numbers) when I launched my LP-100. I have a special place in my heart for the guys who waited 4 months after ordering for the initial product shipments. Unless you've been there, it's hard to understand that one seemingly insignificant part, or bad trace on a PCB, or a thin silk screen, can delay everything... and this can extend beyond the initial run because each run seems to generate small random problems. In my case, on the second run I had a distributor deliver toroids with the wrong ferrite mix, mixed in with correct ones (these are unmarked parts as you know). I can also state from experience, that offering a product in both assembled and kit form adds a layer of complexity that is higher than expected. I for one view the K3 as a breakthrough product... one which will change the market, and am willing to wait as long as it takes. Get some sleep, take some walks and enjoy the fruits of your labor. 73, Larry N8LP Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: > K3 Status Update: August 29, 2007 > > Note from Eric: > I apologize for not posting earlier. I planned on posting an update for > everyone before I left town for the JA Ham Fair last week, but ran out > of time. So you can blame this delay in status on me (and the Marketing > dept.) instead of the Engineering dept. > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Does the K3 decoder decode CW?
Yes. 73, Ed - W0YK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hell is easier than you think to generate and decode (easier than CW
from a machine point of view, IMO). I considered making a PIC do it. The biggest challenge with that is the dot matrix LCD display code. Julian G4ILO wrote: > Hellschreiber? You're kidding, right? > > -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
> > We appreciate your patience as we get the final pieces in place to ship > your K3s. From now until we ship we will post weekly updates on K3 > shipping here on the Elecraft list and on our web page. We'll also be > posting the pre-release version of the K3 assembly manual on our web > site later this week to give you a feel for what is coming. > > 73, > Eric WA6HHQ > Wayne, N6KR Thank you. In spite of some folks who apparently can not read, my complaint was NOT about the delay, but about the lack of communication. I think the above will be a big help. -- John - W2AGN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi Julian,
Yes...at present, the K3 can decode CW, PSK31 and RTTY. ------------------------- 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Aug 30 3:57 , "Julian G4ILO" sent: >Does the K3 decoder decode CW? > >-- >Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? >G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com >Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi David:
>>Does the K3 decoder decode CW? > >Yes, and PSK31, RTTY and Hellschreiber. I'm afraid it does not decode Hellschreiber... at least yet. I don't think it's even been discussed. Cheers, Tom N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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after "persisting" against Commonwealth Edison for OVER A YEAR AND
ONE HALF... even after intervention by the FCC causing no ComEd action, and then our state commerce commission finally got it fixed....S9 line noise from 3 poles, I KNOW ,,, IF YOU CAN'T HEAR IT , YOU CAN'T WORK IT, no amount of watts help.... BUT THE K3 NOISE BLANKER might being be able to bring back the HF hobby to those who have given up on their power company and HF. looks like a few more ticks waiting,,,,,,but WELL worth the wait. bill _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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