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Re: K3: Strange VFO Behavior

k7svv
I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this
situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band
sequence is permanent until you manually correct it.  In other words it
won't go away by itself.  To get the bands back into the correct sequence
you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ
ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press A>B to set
VFO B to the same frequency.  (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that
normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that
band entry,  press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press
the AFX/ENTER button, and the press A>B.  Your band sequence should now be
correct).  No big deal repairing the damage.

John    [K7SVV]

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From: "John [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]>
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior


> Ed,
>        I just went through this last week.  It is a known problem and is
> on Wayne's things-to-do list.  What ever you do, don't press the SPLT
> button to go into split  mode when you have the condition you described
> because if you do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step
> through the bands.  At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when
> I cycled through the bands.  Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not
> have different bands in VFO A and B.
>
> John    [K7SVV]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ed K1EP" <[hidden email]>
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> Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:16 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
>
>
>>I noticed this behavior this evening and I was wondering if anyone else
>>could duplicate it.
>>
>> I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB.   When I turn the VFO B
>> knob, the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB.  If I turn
>> VFO A now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB.  If
>> I do a band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus
>> get a PLL error message flash by.
>>
>> Does anyone else see this?
>>
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Re: K3: Strange VFO Behavior

M0XDF
Thanks, I've noted that on the page at
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis

(that page is going to move on Sunday, sorry, but I will link to new page).


On 18/1/08 17:28, "John   [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> sent:

> I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this
> situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band
> sequence is permanent until you manually correct it.  In other words it
> won't go away by itself.  To get the bands back into the correct sequence
> you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ
> ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press A>B to set
> VFO B to the same frequency.  (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that
> normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that
> band entry,  press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press
> the AFX/ENTER button, and the press A>B.  Your band sequence should now be
> correct).  No big deal repairing the damage.

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Re: K3: Strange VFO Behavior

Don Wilhelm-4
There is no need to step to the incorrect band (but you do have to know
which band is incorrect).  A direct frequency entry for the band that is
incorrect alone is sufficient (the K3 will switch to the band where the
direct frequency entry is located).

BTW, the K2 suffers from the same situation - you can twist the VFO knob
and tune WAY out of the proper band - the frequency display will follow
even though the VFO has long ago stopped changing frequency because it
topped out.

73,
Don W3FPR

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

> Thanks, I've noted that on the page at
> http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis
>
> (that page is going to move on Sunday, sorry, but I will link to new page).
>
>
> On 18/1/08 17:28, "John   [K7SVV]" <[hidden email]> sent:
>
>  
>> I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this
>> situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band
>> sequence is permanent until you manually correct it.  In other words it
>> won't go away by itself.  To get the bands back into the correct sequence
>> you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ
>> ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press A>B to set
>> VFO B to the same frequency.  (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that
>> normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that
>> band entry,  press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press
>> the AFX/ENTER button, and the press A>B.  Your band sequence should now be
>> correct).  No big deal repairing the damage.
>>    
>
>  
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Re: List of tips

Don Wilhelm-4
In reply to this post by Thom LaCosta
Thom,

It is unrealistic to expect those who are busy paying attention to the
progress of fixes to monitor every list of 'problems' that might be put
into public places on the internet.  IMHO, those who want to create and
publish such lists have a responsibility to take on the task of
monitoring for fixes and keeping the list current - they must not depend
on others to tell them when the list content is out of date.   There are
many similar out-of-date lists in cyberspace for many products, and I am
certain I have only encountered a few of them - when I find
mis-information in a list like that, I tend to ignore the entire list
because I know it contains errors and is therefore invalid.

73,
Don W3FPR

Thom LaCosta wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
>> As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out,
>> I would agree.  Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a
>> 'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem
>> has been fixed.
>
> And that's exactly why the folks involved ask for the input,
> cooperation and participation of folks who have current information.
>
> With out that, there will always be critical comments, and sometimes
> by the very folks who could have been part of the solution.
>
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Re: List of tips

Thom LaCosta
On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Thom,
> encountered a few of them - when I find mis-information in a list like that,
> I tend to ignore the entire list because I know it contains errors and is
> therefore invalid.

Yep...as I said, some folks are part of the solution, others are not.

It's very easy to be critical of an effort by folks who are simply trying to
offer a service that the "official" folks don't.

Using your logic, one could also ignore many of the mailing lists on the
internet, since they too contain inaccurate information.

And of course there are the statements by official sources that are also
inaccurate.

So, there's tons of stuff that we can simply ignore.

73 k3hrn
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