K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

[ng7m]

I have done some research to see if this feature has been discussed /
requested before...  After getting back into hobby in the spring of April
2009, I dusted off my old 1000MP and started operating on a regular basis.
 It had been in the box for almost 9 years of non use.  Anyway,  many on
the list had or still have the 1000MP, a great radio.  It's fun to be back
active again on HF.  I'm trying to catch up for all the lost time by
spending a lot of $$$ now. ;)

Well, this spring I decided to pull the trigger on a K3 after really
getting to kick the tires on several at a couple of N3RS ARRL CW efforts
over the last 3 years.  It was time for a new radio and I loved the
portability of the K3 and what I was hearing / using at the N3RS CW contest
operations.

So I put a kit together a pretty loaded up kit version in April and I'm
really loving the K3 and there is certainly no going back to the 1000MP.
 It was perfect on a county line expedition I did for 7QP.

Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really).... and it's the auto
memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.

de Max NG7M
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[Don Wilhelm-4]

Max,

It is not the same thing, but I have set up the keypad for "Quick
Memories"  and as a result, I seldom use either the band switch or the
mode switch.  In each of the quick memories, I store one VFO for the SSB
area and the other for the CW section -

I change bands by holding the M>V button then tapping the keypad button
corresponding to the memory location where I have stored the contents.  
If I want CW, and it comes up with the SSB frequency, tapping A/B swaps
them - these quick memories will remember the last used frequency on a band.

In addition, there are 4 more memories for each band - the M1 thru M4
buttons.  I load M1 with somewhere in the center of the CW band I use,
M2 for the SSB portion, and M3 for the DATA mode section of the band -
hold M>V and tap the one you want.
I leave M4 blank in case I want to quickly store a frequency and mode
that I would want to go back to quickly.

I think that is *almost* the function you want, but it does take some
setup time, it is not done automatically (except for the (single) last
used frequency and mode on a band change,

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2012 2:46 PM, M. George wrote:

>
> Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
> really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really).... and it's the auto
> memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
> wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
> you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
> SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
> last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
> example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
> 14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
> manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
> for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.
>
> Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
> do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
> someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
> the wrong terms.
>
> de Max NG7M
>

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[Rick Prather-2]

Max,

Have you checked out the "Quick Memories" section of the manual?

With them set up you can pretty well approximate what you are trying to do.

I have mine set as follows per band.

M1 - CW
M2 - SSB
M3 - PSK
M4 - RTTY

Rick
K6LE

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[John Oppenheimer]

On 08/12/2012 01:46 PM, M. George wrote:

There is one thing I
> really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really).... and it's the auto
> memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.

Something similar has been discussed several times in past threads. I
agree. The general term is "band stacking registers."

There have been many responses, in the past, to use fixed memories as a
substitute. Or Quick registers. None of the suggestions will be as
functional as "band stacking registers."

A Google search of, including the quotes:
"band stacking registers"
will result with the first link being one of the several Elecraft list
threads:
www.mail-archive.com/[hidden email]/msg37726.html

Therefore, a replay of all of the suggestions isn't necessary.

John, KN5L
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[wb6rse1]

On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:46 AM, M. George wrote:

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.
_____

Use the V > M and the M1-M4 Quick Mem buttons. EG - M1 CW, M2 Data, M3 SSB. You're on 20m CW and want to go to 20m SSB but want to come back to the same spot on 20m CW. V > M then M1 will save the CW freq (and sub RX and split settings etc). And V > M then M3 will do the same for the SSB freq you just went to. Then M > V and the M# button will easily let you toggle between freqs/modes. Do it a few times and you won't even think about it.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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[K9QJS]

As a future K3 owner, I can say that I, too, would like this feature.    I am so use to this feature on my current xcvr that I don't quite know what the K3 behavior is without this feature!  

Hoop
K9QJS



On Aug 12, 2012, at 11:46 AM, M. George wrote:

I have done some research to see if this feature has been discussed /
requested before...  After getting back into hobby in the spring of April
2009, I dusted off my old 1000MP and started operating on a regular basis.
It had been in the box for almost 9 years of non use.  Anyway,  many on
the list had or still have the 1000MP, a great radio.  It's fun to be back
active again on HF.  I'm trying to catch up for all the lost time by
spending a lot of $$$ now. ;)

Well, this spring I decided to pull the trigger on a K3 after really
getting to kick the tires on several at a couple of N3RS ARRL CW efforts
over the last 3 years.  It was time for a new radio and I loved the
portability of the K3 and what I was hearing / using at the N3RS CW contest
operations.

So I put a kit together a pretty loaded up kit version in April and I'm
really loving the K3 and there is certainly no going back to the 1000MP.
It was perfect on a county line expedition I did for 7QP.

Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really).... and it's the auto
memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.

de Max NG7M
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[ng7m]

Gentlemen, thanks for the details on the quick memories and several
suggestions on how to do this.  I will spend some time reading up on the
quick memories.  The key was that they are obviously are set per band.  I'm
sure I can come up with a good work around now.

If there is still some room left in the K3 firmware address space... I sure
wouldn't complain if this was added in a future update... hint, hint,
nudge, nudge... ;)

Thanks again for the responses everyone.  de NG7M Max
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[Don Wilhelm-4]

Max, there are two distinct groups of "Quick Memories"  The first is the
00 to 10 memories that you can use from the 0 thru 9 keypad if CONFIG:
MEM 0-9 menu parameter is set to BAND SEL.  That is the one I use for
bandswitching.
The M1 thru M4 Quick Memories are "per band" and once inside a
particular band can recall 4 frequencies (along with modes, and other
settings) for 4 different spots in a band.

If you count memories, the K3 has a "bunch" - 100 memories of which the
first 10 can be "quick memories for band/mode selection.  Once on any
given band there are the 4 M1 thru M4 memories and given 11 bands, that
is 44 more memories - 144 memories in total.

I set my 60 meter memories to do channel hopping by placing the "*"
character in the memory name - I do not have a Quick Memory for 60
meters - when I hold the M>V button, it is normal for those memory slots
to be displayed (it will show the last used memory), and if that is what
I want, I just tap M>V again - otherwise I tap the keypad to switch to
the other 9 bands.  Which band is associated with which number is your
choice,  I have chosen for 80m, 40m, and 30m to be the 1, 2, 3, bands,
and 20, 15, and 10m to be the 4, 5, and 6 buttons,
the 7, 8, and 9 buttons are set for 17, 12, and 6 meters while the "0"
button is 160 meters.  That scheme gives me all bands along with channel
hopping for 60 meters.

You may choose which band corresponds with which number on your K3
numeric keypad - there are no rules other than your own

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/12/2012 6:44 PM, M. George wrote:

> Gentlemen, thanks for the details on the quick memories and several
> suggestions on how to do this.  I will spend some time reading up on the
> quick memories.  The key was that they are obviously are set per band.  I'm
> sure I can come up with a good work around now.
>
> If there is still some room left in the K3 firmware address space... I sure
> wouldn't complain if this was added in a future update... hint, hint,
> nudge, nudge... ;)
>
> Thanks again for the responses everyone.  de NG7M Max
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[Todd - k1tm]

I use both of these methods but in a slightly different way.  Having come from Icom rigs, I mapped the order of the band memories 0-9 to the same layout that they use. I place the 60M memories in 10-14.

I have the 0-9 memories configured for band select, so I can retain the last frequency used on the band for easy access.  In addition, I use the memories M1-M4, to divided up the bands into M1 for CW, M2 for PSK, M3 for SSB (extra segment), M4 for SSB (general segment or a net frequency).  

To make a big change in frequency or mode, I have several options:

1. Press M>V, then Press 0 - 9 to go directly to the last used frequency and mode on the desired band (I do this rarely)
2. Press M>V, Rotate the main VFO knob to select the band and then press M1-M4 to select a new mode or spot on the band.

This second option improves the ergonomics, as opposed to either the sequence, "reach across the radio and select the band, reach back across the radio and press M>V, select from M1-M4 and press", or "Press M>V, remember which key from 0-9 takes you to the desired band and press it, followed by press M>V and then press M1-M4 for the desired mode and frequency range".  

By rotating the dial, you get to choose the task completion to be either "enter", or M>V, which leave you on the last frequency and mode for a given band,  or M1-M4 which allows you to select a mode and frequency range while you are at it.  I have switched completely to option 2, and rarely use the band switch.  In the end, to accomplish a large change in frequency and mode it seems fastest to start with M>V followed by rotation or simply M1-M4.  

I no longer miss the band stacking registers.  

[Bill W]

This might be a very later reply but it you use the "K3 / KX3 Frequency Memory Editor" software available off the Elecraft Website, to make loading both Frequency and Mode starting points for each band a breeze. You can then just hold M>V and your memory detail/discription will be shown on the VFO B window. You can then use VFO A to select the band segment and mode you loaded. Then tap M>V and you are there.