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Dave G3WGN M6O
I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading to E6GG next month.
Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.  
After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
I have tried the following remedies:
Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
Replaced panels.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Performed EE INIT
Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the upgrade)
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.

Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
73
David G3WGN WJ6O
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Re: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
David,

so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.

73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:

> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
> to E6GG next month.
> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
> I have tried the following remedies:
> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
> Replaced panels.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Performed EE INIT
> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
> upgrade)
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>
> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
> 73
> David G3WGN WJ6O
>
>
>
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RE: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Dave G3WGN M6O

Thanks Udo. 

Did you have RF out while the KXV3B was installed?  I get no RF either below or above the 12Watt PA changeover point setting on the PWR control.

73, David

 

From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 August 2015 11:58
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David,

so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.

73 Udo, DK5YA

Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:


> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
> to E6GG next month.
> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
> I have tried the following remedies:
> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
> Replaced panels.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Performed EE INIT
> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
> upgrade)
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>
> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
> 73
> David G3WGN WJ6O
>
>
>
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Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
David,

exactly the same here.

Udo, DK5YA

Am 16.08.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:

> Thanks Udo.
> Did you have RF out while the KXV3B was installed?  I get no RF either below or above the 12Watt PA changeover point setting on the PWR control.
> 73, David
>
> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 11:58
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> David,
>
> so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
> failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
> KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
> sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
> I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
> old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
> Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.
>
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>
> Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
>>
>>
>>
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Dave G3WGN M6O

Thanks. Time to talk to Elecraft, I think!

73, David

 

From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 August 2015 12:11
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David,

exactly the same here.

Udo, DK5YA

Am 16.08.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:


> Thanks Udo.
> Did you have RF out while the KXV3B was installed?  I get no RF either below or above the 12Watt PA changeover point setting on the PWR control.
> 73, David
>
> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 11:58
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> David,
>
> so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
> failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
> KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
> sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
> I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
> old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
> Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.
>
> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>
> Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
>>
>>
>>
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Udo Langenohl - DK5YA
David,

please let the list know what Elecraft says.

73 Udo

Am 16.08.2015 um 13:20 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:

> Thanks. Time to talk to Elecraft, I think!
> 73, David
>
> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 12:11
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
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>
> David,
>
> exactly the same here.
>
> Udo, DK5YA
>
> Am 16.08.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>
>> Thanks Udo.
>> Did you have RF out while the KXV3B was installed?  I get no RF either below or above the 12Watt PA changeover point setting on the PWR control.
>> 73, David
>>
>> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606340&i=0>]
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 11:58
>> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606340&i=1>>
>> Subject: Re: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>>
>> David,
>>
>> so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
>> failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
>> KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
>> sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
>> I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
>> old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
>> Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.
>>
>> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>>
>> Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>>
>>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
>>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>>> to E6GG next month.
>>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>>> I have tried the following remedies:
>>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>>> Replaced panels.
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>> Performed EE INIT
>>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>>> upgrade)
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>>> 73
>>> David G3WGN WJ6O
>>>
>>>
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RE: [SPAM?] Re: [SPAM?] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Dave G3WGN M6O

Will do. 

David

 

From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]]
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David,

please let the list know what Elecraft says.

73 Udo

Am 16.08.2015 um 13:20 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:


> Thanks. Time to talk to Elecraft, I think!
> 73, David
>
> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 12:11
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> David,
>
> exactly the same here.
>
> Udo, DK5YA
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> Am 16.08.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>
>> Thanks Udo.
>> Did you have RF out while the KXV3B was installed?  I get no RF either below or above the 12Watt PA changeover point setting on the PWR control.
>> 73, David
>>
>> From: Udo Langenohl - DK5YA [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606340&i=0>]
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 11:58
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>> David,
>>
>> so did I in June, replaced KXV3-A by KXV3-B, TX calibration always
>> failed. Tried several times: back to KXV3-A, calibration works, again to
>> KXV3-B, calibration failed. Checked TMP's a hundred times, no fail for
>> sure. I didn't replace the SYN-boards.
>> I finally gave up after 1 week of constant dissapointment. Still running
>> old KXV3-A, have a KXV3-B for sale now.
>> Rig: K3 ser. 59xx, ESD workbench.
>>
>> 73 Udo, DK5YA
>>
>> Am 16.08.2015 um 12:38 schrieb Dave G3WGN M6O:
>>
>>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on
>>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>>> to E6GG next month.
>>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>>> I have tried the following remedies:
>>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>>> Replaced panels.
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>> Performed EE INIT
>>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>>> upgrade)
>>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>>> 73
>>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

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David,
    I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with
second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.

                    73 Doug EI2CN
-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave
G3WGN M6O
Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade
on
my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
to E6GG next month.
Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.  
After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
I have tried the following remedies:
Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
Replaced panels.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Performed EE INIT
Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
upgrade)
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.

Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
73
David G3WGN WJ6O



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Dave G3WGN M6O
Thanks Doug.
Did the radio put out any RF when it failed to calibrate?  I'm getting none when I key the rig.
73, David G3WGN

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David,
    I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.

                    73 Doug EI2CN
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade on my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading to E6GG next month.
Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.  
After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
I have tried the following remedies:
Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
Replaced panels.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
Performed EE INIT
Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
upgrade)
Re-attempted Calibration - same error.

Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
73
David G3WGN WJ6O



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Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Mike Harris-9
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Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.

It is version 1.15.6.29

I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the KXV3B
which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there have been
some timing changes.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:

>
> David,
>      I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with
> second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>
>                      73 Doug EI2CN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave
> G3WGN M6O
> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade
> on
> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
> to E6GG next month.
> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
> I have tried the following remedies:
> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
> Replaced panels.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Performed EE INIT
> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
> upgrade)
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>
> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
> 73
> David G3WGN WJ6O
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RE: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Dave G3WGN M6O

Mike (and all who have sent replies on and off reflector) – thank you.

I should have been more precise in my note.  The firmware I’m using:

 

MCU 05.33

FPF 01.23

DSP 02.86

 

Utility 1.15.6.29

 

Since the original posting I have reloaded the utility and all firmware.  No change – still no RF out and calibration fails with 0Watts message. Synths check out OK and KXV3B is enabled.

MCU 05.33 was released Friday so is a potential source of the issue.  I could not find a way to roll back to an earlier MCU release to check that out.

73, David G3WGN

 

 

From: Mike Harris-9 [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 August 2015 17:24
To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

 

Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.

It is version 1.15.6.29

I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the KXV3B
which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there have been
some timing changes.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:


>
> David,
>      I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with
> second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>
>                      73 Doug EI2CN
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Dave
> G3WGN M6O
> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade
> on
> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
> to E6GG next month.
> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
> I have tried the following remedies:
> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
> Replaced panels.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
> Performed EE INIT
> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
> upgrade)
> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>
> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
> 73
> David G3WGN WJ6O

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Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

wayne burdick
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David,

The KXV3B itself should have nothing to do with this unless it is damaged or installed incorrectly. Also, many K3 users have this same hardware setup along with rev. 5.33 firmware. So I suspect a firmware configuration issue. Make sure you're not in TX TEST mode; have crystal filters configured correctly; have the SUB IN board installed correctly (if applicable); TUN PWR set to NOR; TX ALC ON; 2-TONE OFF; TX INH OFF. Also try removing the sub RX (if applicable) and reinstalling the bypass jumper for the sub-IN module. Get it down to the simplest configuration possible.

Please send all of the info to k3support and they'll contact you on Monday.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 16, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mike (and all who have sent replies on and off reflector) - thank you.
> I should have been more precise in my note.  The firmware I'm using:
>
> MCU 05.33
> FPF 01.23
> DSP 02.86
>
> Utility 1.15.6.29
>
> Since the original posting I have reloaded the utility and all firmware.  No change - still no RF out and calibration fails with 0Watts message. Synths check out OK and KXV3B is enabled.
> MCU 05.33 was released Friday so is a potential source of the issue.  I could not find a way to roll back to an earlier MCU release to check that out.
> 73, David G3WGN
>
>
> From: Mike Harris-9 [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 17:24
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.
>
> It is version 1.15.6.29
>
> I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the KXV3B
> which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there have been
> some timing changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>
>>
>> David,
>>     I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with
>> second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
>> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
>> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
>> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>>
>>                     73 Doug EI2CN
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=0>] On Behalf Of Dave
>> G3WGN M6O
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
>> To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=1>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade
>> on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Doug Turnbull
Wayne and David,
     The service is what is so classy about Elecraft.  Even if the radios
were not at the top of the pile such service would make one think of
sticking with Elecraft but of course the Sherwood tests tell us Elecraft is
amongst the very best.

      Good going Wayne!

                   73 Doug EI2CN  

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne
Burdick
Sent: 16 August 2015 18:37
To: Dave G3WGN M6O
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A
upgrade

David,

The KXV3B itself should have nothing to do with this unless it is damaged or
installed incorrectly. Also, many K3 users have this same hardware setup
along with rev. 5.33 firmware. So I suspect a firmware configuration issue.
Make sure you're not in TX TEST mode; have crystal filters configured
correctly; have the SUB IN board installed correctly (if applicable); TUN
PWR set to NOR; TX ALC ON; 2-TONE OFF; TX INH OFF. Also try removing the sub
RX (if applicable) and reinstalling the bypass jumper for the sub-IN module.
Get it down to the simplest configuration possible.

Please send all of the info to k3support and they'll contact you on Monday.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 16, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mike (and all who have sent replies on and off reflector) - thank you.
> I should have been more precise in my note.  The firmware I'm using:
>
> MCU 05.33
> FPF 01.23
> DSP 02.86
>
> Utility 1.15.6.29
>
> Since the original posting I have reloaded the utility and all firmware.
No change - still no RF out and calibration fails with 0Watts message.
Synths check out OK and KXV3B is enabled.
> MCU 05.33 was released Friday so is a potential source of the issue.  I
could not find a way to roll back to an earlier MCU release to check that
out.
> 73, David G3WGN
>
>
> From: Mike Harris-9 [via Elecraft]
[mailto:[hidden email]]

> Sent: 16 August 2015 17:24
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.
>
> It is version 1.15.6.29
>
> I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the KXV3B
> which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there have been
> some timing changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>
>>
>> David,
>>     I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s)
with
>> second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
>> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
>> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
>> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>>
>>                     73 Doug EI2CN
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden
email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=0>] On Behalf Of Dave
>> G3WGN M6O
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
>> To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=1>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain
fade
>> on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four
heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the
panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.
I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed
with

>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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RE: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Dave G3WGN M6O
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Wayne,

Huge thanks for interrupting your weekend.  I see Doug EI2CN has already taken the words out of my mouth re Elecraft support – it is indeed awesome and impressive.

All understood and I’ll work through your suggestions later this evening/tomorrow morning my time.

I’ll get a dossier to K3 support in time for business hours Pacific time tomorrow.

73, David G3WGN

 

From: wayne burdick [via Elecraft] [mailto:ml-node+[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 August 2015 19:38
To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

 

David,

The KXV3B itself should have nothing to do with this unless it is damaged or installed incorrectly. Also, many K3 users have this same hardware setup along with rev. 5.33 firmware. So I suspect a firmware configuration issue. Make sure you're not in TX TEST mode; have crystal filters configured correctly; have the SUB IN board installed correctly (if applicable); TUN PWR set to NOR; TX ALC ON; 2-TONE OFF; TX INH OFF. Also try removing the sub RX (if applicable) and reinstalling the bypass jumper for the sub-IN module. Get it down to the simplest configuration possible.

Please send all of the info to k3support and they'll contact you on Monday.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 16, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]> wrote:


> Mike (and all who have sent replies on and off reflector) - thank you.
> I should have been more precise in my note.  The firmware I'm using:
>
> MCU 05.33
> FPF 01.23
> DSP 02.86
>
> Utility 1.15.6.29
>
> Since the original posting I have reloaded the utility and all firmware.  No change - still no RF out and calibration fails with 0Watts message. Synths check out OK and KXV3B is enabled.
> MCU 05.33 was released Friday so is a potential source of the issue.  I could not find a way to roll back to an earlier MCU release to check that out.
> 73, David G3WGN
>
>
> From: Mike Harris-9 [via Elecraft] [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 17:24
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.
>
> It is version 1.15.6.29
>
> I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the KXV3B
> which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there have been
> some timing changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>
>>
>> David,
>>     I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s) with
>> second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
>> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
>> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
>> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>>
>>                     73 Doug EI2CN
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=0>] On Behalf Of Dave
>> G3WGN M6O
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
>> To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=1>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain fade
>> on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.  I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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[K3] Gold pin modification

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Dear OMs and Yls
     Can someone tell me for what serial number the change to Gold plated
pins was made for the K3.    I note that David found it necessary to do this
for SN 4474.   I have two K3s one 2574 and the later 5487.    I thought they
were both using gold plated pins.    I could take the older one apart to
check but it would be nice to know the cutoff SN for gold plated connectors.

      I did check the Elecraft site and am unable to find the answer let
alone the upgrade kit though I can find plenty of other updates.

      Thank you to whoever answers this query.

                  73 Doug EI2CN

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>> G3WGN M6O
>> Sent: 16 August 2015 10:39
>> To: [hidden email]</user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7606351&i=1>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain
fade
>> on
>> my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of four
heading
>> to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the
panels
>> were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector replacement mod.
I
>> have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update to
>> latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed
with

>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

Dave G3WGN M6O
In reply to this post by wayne burdick
The TX Calibration issue I had with my K3 is now resolved.  I followed Wayne's suggestions and the final one revealed that without the KRX3A the 50W Calibration ran fine. On replacing the subRX module and retesting all is OK.  Though I had carefully checked all TMP connectors and the seating of SUBIN and SUBOUT boards before removing the subRX  and found no issues, perhaps re-seating on replacing the subRX did the trick.
Caveat:  I did recheck (for the 3rd time!)  the solder joints on the newly replaced P30 and P35 with a good magnifier.  I could find no obvious dry joints or solder bridges, but did touch-up a couple of the pins on P35 while the rig was on the ESD bench for the subRX removal.

This experience was an object lesson in not panicking when things don't operate as planned and carefully going back over every step taken in the upgrade process.

Sorry to have interrupted your Sunday Wayne.  Big thank you to Elecraft and the support team.  You continue to earn the respect and admiration of a big slice of the ham radio community.

Have a great week!
73, David
G3WGN  M6O  WJ6O

-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 16 August 2015 19:37
To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade

David,

The KXV3B itself should have nothing to do with this unless it is damaged or installed incorrectly. Also, many K3 users have this same hardware setup along with rev. 5.33 firmware. So I suspect a firmware configuration issue. Make sure you're not in TX TEST mode; have crystal filters configured correctly; have the SUB IN board installed correctly (if applicable); TUN PWR set to NOR; TX ALC ON; 2-TONE OFF; TX INH OFF. Also try removing the sub RX (if applicable) and reinstalling the bypass jumper for the sub-IN module. Get it down to the simplest configuration possible.

Please send all of the info to k3support and they'll contact you on Monday.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 16, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Dave G3WGN M6O <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mike (and all who have sent replies on and off reflector) - thank you.
> I should have been more precise in my note.  The firmware I'm using:
>
> MCU 05.33
> FPF 01.23
> DSP 02.86
>
> Utility 1.15.6.29
>
> Since the original posting I have reloaded the utility and all firmware.  No change - still no RF out and calibration fails with 0Watts message. Synths check out OK and KXV3B is enabled.
> MCU 05.33 was released Friday so is a potential source of the issue.  I could not find a way to roll back to an earlier MCU release to check that out.
> 73, David G3WGN
>
>
> From: Mike Harris-9 [via Elecraft]
> [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: 16 August 2015 17:24
> To: David Aslin G3WGN <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A upgrade
>
> Make sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.
>
> It is version 1.15.6.29
>
> I had an RX gain cal issue when I installed the new synths and the
> KXV3B which was resolved with the latest Utility. Apparently there
> have been some timing changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 16/08/2015 12:25, Doug Turnbull wrote:
>
>>
>> David,
>>     I had a similar problem here with a friend's K3 (I have two K3(s)
>> with second receivers installed and had no problem prior to doing this
>> synthesizer board swap.)    We solved the failure to TX calibrate by
>> reloading the K3 Utility - the same one which worked fine previously.
>> Reloading the utility is an easy thing to try.
>>
>>                     73 Doug EI2CN
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 TX calibration fails after KXV3B and SYN3A
>> upgrade
>>
>> I'm hoping there is a quick fix for this (some fat-fingering or brain
>> fade on my part is entirely possible) as the K3 in question is one of
>> four heading to E6GG next month.
>> Yesterday I upgraded S/N 4474 with KXV3B and 2 x SYN3As and while the
>> panels were off, also did the 12V DC Out mod and gold connector
>> replacement mod.  I have a full ESD bench and wore a wrist strap at all times.
>> After careful reassembly and TMP cable checks, I was able to update
>> to latest firmware and enable synths and KXV3B.  But TX Calibration failed with
>> Calibration power settled at "   0W; " message.
>> I have tried the following remedies:
>> Panels off and examined all boards for correct seating.
>> Examined all TMP cables for correct seating.
>> Replaced panels.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Re-flashed the firmware load.  Load successful.
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>> Performed EE INIT
>> Loaded a known-good prior configuration (from March 2015 well before
>> the
>> upgrade)
>> Re-attempted Calibration - same error.
>>
>> Any suggestions for next steps gratefully received!
>> 73
>> David G3WGN WJ6O
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