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MontyS
I get the daily digest.  I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts.  The ones I skip are:

a) Ones that should go to Elecraft Support/Sales/Parts
b) Ones that relate to a topic fully covered in the manual
c) Ones that are covered on the Elecraft website
d) Details of measurements.  I would like to have access to these via the web
e) Ones that are primarily a discussion of third party equipment/software.  Websites for such are usually very good.

I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows.  
Monty, K2DLJ
K3 #699
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Re: K3 Topics

Robert C.Abell
Dave,

I certainly agree.

The Elecraft list is often 50 plus topics, most of which are absolute nonsense. I for one wish it could be limited to dealing with operation problems with use of the Elecraft products and not ancilliary equipment usage or hookups, i.e. bandscopes, linear amps.,etc.

Bob, VE3XM
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Re: Re: K3 Topics

Ralph Tyrrell
Most of these add ons I have no interest in.
BUT I am glad to know that there are there.
Some day I may want to know how to hook up one.
These add ons are an extention of ELECRAFT.
The delete key is used often.

73, Ty, W1TF, K3 $696



     
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Re: Re: K3 Topics

Bill Steffey NY9H
subject lines could be " standardized" or "grouped" .....  K3  or K2    X

ie:   K3  wish list ,,,,, ( includes redesigning the K3 because it
works fine now )
        K3   filters
        K3  alc

that would help those who can only see the subject line....


bill

At 09:42 AM 9/9/2008, Ralph Tyrrell wrote:

>Most of these add ons I have no interest in.
>BUT I am glad to know that there are there.
>Some day I may want to know how to hook up one.
>These add ons are an extention of ELECRAFT.
>The delete key is used often.
>
>73, Ty, W1TF, K3 $696
>
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Re: Re: K3 Topics

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On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:37:53 -0500, Bill NY9H <[hidden email]> wrote:

>subject lines could be " standardized" or "grouped" .....  K3  or K2    X
>
>ie:   K3  wish list ,,,,, ( includes redesigning the K3 because it
>works fine now )
>        K3   filters
>        K3  alc
>
>that would help those who can only see the subject line....
[snip]

And to program our kill filters :O)

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Re: K3 Topics

Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
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In reply to this post by MontyS
You might also like reading via Nabble, on the web.
http://n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-f365791.html

Or visit that page and click on "Forum Feeds" at the bottom and drag the
"Topics" one to your Live Bookmarks in Firefox 3 or Internet Explorer 7
and get one-click access to the list of active topics.
Leigh/WA5ZNU

> I get the daily digest.  I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts.  The ones I skip are:
> ...
>
> I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows.  
> Monty, K2DLJ
> K3 #699
>  

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Re: K3 Topics

dave.wilburn
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During my short time with the list (K2 5982 / K3 766) it has been a
technical list.  These folks are not your average hams.  They will dig
into a piece of equipment and understand what makes it tick.  It is an
amazing think tank of information that I enjoy reading everyday.

That being said, I do have separate folders for K3, K2, Elecraft (each
with a Keepers sub folder).  All Elecraft email ends up in one of
those folders.

I use Thunderbird, and it has a search function in the corner much
like google.  I plug in a keyword in the subject line of a thread that
I want to read, and boom.  I have all the emails, sorted by date.  And
only that thread.  I may read some of it, all of it, or throw the
whole thing away (in my case, anything about microphones or SSB).  I
clear the search function, all of the threads are back.

But that is just me.  And that is what is so special about this list.
  Lots of great info, and a delete key too.  What more can you ask
for?  Ok, they got the Mojo too!

David Wilburn
K4DGW




Monty Shultes wrote:

> I get the daily digest.  I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts.  The ones I skip are:
>
> a) Ones that should go to Elecraft Support/Sales/Parts
> b) Ones that relate to a topic fully covered in the manual
> c) Ones that are covered on the Elecraft website
> d) Details of measurements.  I would like to have access to these via the web
> e) Ones that are primarily a discussion of third party equipment/software.  Websites for such are usually very good.
>
> I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows.  
> Monty, K2DLJ
> K3 #699
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K3 Topics is bad subject line

Charly

This is great procedure, but the huge failing comes from

the significantly poor use of the subject line, very often

too vague and even misleading about the actual content of

the message.... FOR EXAMPLE:  "K3 Topics" but at least

that sez "K3".  Until the engineers among us learn to use

the English language, the subject lines now in use are mostly useless.

73

Charles Harpole

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> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 22:42:41 -0400
> From: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics
> To: [hidden email]
>
> During my short time with the list (K2 5982 / K3 766) it has been a
> technical list. These folks are not your average hams. They will dig
> into a piece of equipment and understand what makes it tick. It is an
> amazing think tank of information that I enjoy reading everyday.
>
> That being said, I do have separate folders for K3, K2, Elecraft (each
> with a Keepers sub folder). All Elecraft email ends up in one of
> those folders.
>
> I use Thunderbird, and it has a search function in the corner much
> like google. I plug in a keyword in the subject line of a thread that
> I want to read, and boom. I have all the emails, sorted by date. And
> only that thread. I may read some of it, all of it, or throw the
> whole thing away (in my case, anything about microphones or SSB). I
> clear the search function, all of the threads are back.
>
> But that is just me. And that is what is so special about this list.
> Lots of great info, and a delete key too. What more can you ask
> for? Ok, they got the Mojo too!
>
> David Wilburn
> K4DGW
>
>
>
>
> Monty Shultes wrote:
>> I get the daily digest. I am switching to individual posts because I find myself reading fewer posts. The ones I skip are:
>>
>> a) Ones that should go to Elecraft Support/Sales/Parts
>> b) Ones that relate to a topic fully covered in the manual
>> c) Ones that are covered on the Elecraft website
>> d) Details of measurements. I would like to have access to these via the web
>> e) Ones that are primarily a discussion of third party equipment/software. Websites for such are usually very good.
>>
>> I do not mind skipping these posts, but the risk of missing something interesting grows as the volume of uninteresting things grows.
>> Monty, K2DLJ
>> K3 #699
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Re: K3 Topics is bad subject line

Don Wilhelm-4
Charles,

Sorry, but engineers and good, clear, concise writing do not typically
run together.
Way back in engineering school, I had a 'Western Civilization" class
professor who was bold enough to tell his sophomore class of EE students
that *his* class was the most important in the curriculum.  That
statement generated a lot of snickers and side comments.  Then over my
years of real world engineering experience, I found that writing and a
knowledge of history were indeed the major  required assets of any good
engineer - one must be able to communicate effectively with
non-engineering types.
 Unfortunately, that fact is usually learned "too little, too late" and
only in the 'school of hard knocks'.

73,
Don W3FPR

Charles Harpole wrote:
> ...  Until the engineers among us learn to use
>
> the English language, the subject lines now in use are mostly useless.
>  
>
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Re: K3 Topics is bad subject line

Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
Very well said, Don. As a senior technical writer/editor with a
solid hardware engineering background, I can attest to the fact
that engineers' writing ranges all the way from crystal-clear,
perfectly composed expositive prose, to the utterly
incomprehensible. I remember getting a sentence in a draft paper
from an engineer once that literally could not be read in one
breath, try as we might to fill our lungs with air to the max
before starting and reading as fast as we could. :-)  Very
entertaining, but ultimately futile. That's why people like me
have jobs -- except I don't, at the moment. RIFfed in June (too
old, too expensive), still on "vacation". :-)

Bill W5WVO


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Cc: "Elecraft Discussion List" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Topics is bad subject line


> Charles,
>
> Sorry, but engineers and good, clear, concise writing do not
typically
> run together.
> Way back in engineering school, I had a 'Western Civilization"
class
> professor who was bold enough to tell his sophomore class of EE
students
> that *his* class was the most important in the curriculum.  That
> statement generated a lot of snickers and side comments.  Then
over my
> years of real world engineering experience, I found that writing
and a
> knowledge of history were indeed the major  required assets of
any good
> engineer - one must be able to communicate effectively with
> non-engineering types.
>  Unfortunately, that fact is usually learned "too little, too
late" and
> only in the 'school of hard knocks'.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> Charles Harpole wrote:
> > ...  Until the engineers among us learn to use
> >
> > the English language, the subject lines now in use are mostly
useless.

> >
> >
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