K3 Updates
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Did my first update ot the K3 firmware last night. I was surprised how long it took. About a minute for the Rig and about 4 minutes for the DSP unit. Question...there was another file DS2 or something like that. Is that for the sub RX when it is installed? Lee K0WA 443 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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It normally takes between 2 and 5 minutes to load both the MCU and DSP1
firmware. It's slightly faster with a "real" serial port than with a USB to Serial adapter. There is a row for the DSP2 which is related to the KRX3 Second Receiver Option. The "Installed in K3" column should show "N/A" unless the KRX3 2nd receiver option is installed and enabled through the CONFIG menu. The K3 Utility Help has a description of the Firmware page, section by section, and there is a Help index entry for DSP2 (and DVR) that describe what they're for. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Lee Buller Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:55 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Updates Did my first update ot the K3 firmware last night. I was surprised how long it took. About a minute for the Rig and about 4 minutes for the DSP unit. Question...there was another file DS2 or something like that. Is that for the sub RX when it is installed? Lee K0WA 443 In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Did my first update to the K3 firmware last night. I was surprised how long it took. About a minute for the Rig and about 4 minutes for the DSP unit.
When you compare to how long it took to write the code, the load time is instantaneous! 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Did my first update to the K3 firmware last night. I was surprised how long it took. About a minute for the Rig and about 4 minutes for the DSP unit. > > When you compare to how long it took to write the code, the load time is > instantaneous! > > 73, > > Lyle KK7P > > to produce buggy code. You guys are writing good stuff. You're "the berries". Dave W5DHM _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Having to go through that process every time they want to test it must be a good incentive to write code that is *not* buggy. Though not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until they had time to run it.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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When we "attempt" to cut code loose it has to go through our software test
department. That takes 2 weeks and if they find a bug you just get dumped with the bugs returned. Then once they are fixed you begin the 2 week process all over again... Very good incentive to make things as clean as possible. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of G4ILO Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 1:17 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Updates Dave Martin-2 wrote: > > I imagine so. I've found that at my place it takes a long time even > to produce buggy code. You guys are writing good stuff. You're "the > berries". > Having to go through that process every time they want to test it must be a good incentive to write code that is *not* buggy. Though not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until they had time to run it. ----- Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Updates-tp15834554p15846031.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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G4ILO wrote:
> not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get > the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer > room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until > they had time to run it. And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you find out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody down there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... Bill W5WVO > > ----- > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a
true beliver in sequence numbers! One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s. Doug, W6JD -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Bill W5WVO" <[hidden email]> > G4ILO wrote: > > > not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get > > the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer > > room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until > > they had time to run it. > > And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you find > out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe > to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody down > there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at > all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... > > Bill W5WVO > > > > > ----- > > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Yep, Univac here and seq numbers in 10s in the 73-80 column - the reason
Fortran only used cols 1-72! On 05/03/2008 21:37, "[hidden email]" <[hidden email]> sent: > But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a > true beliver in sequence numbers! > > One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s. > > Doug, W6JD > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Bill W5WVO" <[hidden email]> > >> G4ILO wrote: >> >>> not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get >>> the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer >>> room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until >>> they had time to run it. >> >> And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you >> find >> out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe >> to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody >> down >> there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at >> all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... >> >> Bill W5WVO >> >>> >>> ----- >>> Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 >>> G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com >>> Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- They are ill discoverers that think there is no land, when they can see nothing but sea. -Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a
> true beliver in sequence numbers! > > One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s. Ah, the good old days, back when we measured program size in inches, i.e. the program is 18 inches tall... vy 73 de toby _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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And after a series of 360s, 370s and B5000s I graduated to HP minis
and , gaak!, paper tape. Discovered the value of transparent Scotch tape. Doug, W6JD -------------- Original message -------------- From: [hidden email] > But when you dropped that deck on the floor and became a > true beliver in sequence numbers! > > One who cut his teeth on IBM-650s. > > Doug, W6JD > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Bill W5WVO" > > > G4ILO wrote: > > > > > not quite as bad as when I learned to program, when you had to get > > > the code punched up on cards, then take the deck down to the computer > > > room and put it in the "in" tray, then wait a couple of hours until > > > they had time to run it. > > > > And then when you went back down to the computer to pick up your job, you find > > out that some trifling typo in your input deck had caused the whole mainframe > > to abort and do a core dump, and not only is your job not done, everybody down > > there is livid at you. :-) Good luck getting them to run your next job at > > all! Ah, the not-so-good old days... > > > > Bill W5WVO > > > > > > > > ----- > > > Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 > > > G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com > > > Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Discovered the value of transparent Scotch
> tape. ah yes. The day we switch to optical readers was a day of celebration! The old mechanical readers were slow and noisy. Mark AD5SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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