K3 Use RIT/XIT knob for speed-tuning

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K3 Use RIT/XIT knob for speed-tuning

KM5Q
I might have missed this handy feature if another K3 owner hadn't  
shown it to me. That's why I'm bringing it up here.

When RIT/XIT is off, it's control can function as a very coarse  
tuning, to quickly zip around a band. To enjoy this feature, you need  
to configure it -- See the user's manual, bottom of p. 14.

Enjoying!
Windy KM5Q
K3 #764

PS. Hope to CU in the SSB Net shortly, 7.190 at 0100
See http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page for the net  
schedule (under User Groups)
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Re: K3 Use RIT/XIT knob for speed-tuning

KENT TRIMBLE
Windy is correct.  However . . . this can also be a "gotcha."

If this feature is enabled and you don't realize it, you can find
yourself in another universe awfully fast.

After checking into an NTS cw net one night, I sat idly twirling the RIT
knob knowing the RIT was off.  A minute or two later it suddenly dawned
on me that the NCS was no longer transmitting.  Moreover, the VFO was
displaying a frequency half a megacycle up the band.  It took me a
half-hour to figure out what had happened.

But it IS a wonderful feature if you know what you're doing.

Kent  K9ZTV



KM5Q wrote:
> I might have missed this handy feature if another K3 owner hadn't
> shown it to me. That's why I'm bringing it up here.
>
> When RIT/XIT is off, it's control can function as a very coarse
> tuning, to quickly zip around a band. To enjoy this feature, you need
> to configure it -- See the user's manual, bottom of p. 14.
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FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

KENT TRIMBLE
With respect to the RIT course tuning feature, be advised that a minor
software glitch currently exists . . .

According to the manual (rev. C1, page 53), the factory default for
CONFIG menu "VFO OFS" should be OFF.

According to the scrolling default indicator activated by pressing the
DISP button when in the "VFO OFS" menu, the factory default should be ON.

The manual is correct and the contradictory value in the scrolling
indicator is being corrected in firmware version 1.81 which is due out
any day.

If, as I did, you rely on the scrolling default indicator to confirm all
of your settings are at factory default (at least initially), you will
inadvertently turn ON the RIT knob course-tuning feature which may give
you the thrill I experienced below.


K9ZTV



K9ZTV wrote:

> Windy is correct.  However . . . this can also be a "gotcha."
>
> If this feature is enabled and you don't realize it, you can find
> yourself in another universe awfully fast.
>
> After checking into an NTS cw net one night, I sat idly twirling the
> RIT knob knowing the RIT was off.  A minute or two later it suddenly
> dawned on me that the NCS was no longer transmitting.  Moreover, the
> VFO was displaying a frequency half a megacycle up the band.  It took
> me a half-hour to figure out what had happened.
>
> But it IS a wonderful feature if you know what you're doing.
>
> Kent  K9ZTV
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Re: [K3] FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

Carl Clawson
Also be aware that the RIT knob does not lock when you lock the main knob. I had my own "where did the NCS go?" moment the other day.

I think it ought to lock.

-- Carl
K3 #486
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Re: FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

w7aqk
Sorry Carl, but I strongly disagree on this one.  When you lock the
frequency, you lock your transmit frequency.  But that doesn't mean the
other guy isn't going to shift around a bit, and you don't want to go
chasing him either.  I think it is very much preferable to NOT lock the RIT.

Dave W7AQK


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>
> Also be aware that the RIT knob does not lock when you lock the main knob.
> I
> had my own "where did the NCS go?" moment the other day.
>
> I think it ought to lock.
>
> -- Carl
> K3 #486
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Re: FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

Jim Cox
I agree, dont lock the rit.   Jim K4JAF

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> Sorry Carl, but I strongly disagree on this one.  When you lock the
> frequency, you lock your transmit frequency.  But that doesn't mean the
> other guy isn't going to shift around a bit, and you don't want to go
> chasing him either.  I think it is very much preferable to NOT lock the
> RIT.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Clawson" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE
>
>
>>
>> Also be aware that the RIT knob does not lock when you lock the main
>> knob. I
>> had my own "where did the NCS go?" moment the other day.
>>
>> I think it ought to lock.
>>
>> -- Carl
>> K3 #486
>> --
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>> http://www.nabble.com/K3-Use-RIT-XIT-knob-for-speed-tuning-tp17011580p17834450.html
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RE: FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

Carl Clawson
I'm afraid I didn't make myself understood. I'm not suggesting that the RIT
function be locked. I'm saying that when RIT is turned off and the RIT knob
is being used as a coarse tuning knob, lock it along with the main knob.
It's not doing anything except acting as a faster main knob and you can bump
it and knock yourself off frequency (TX and RX) just like bumping the main
knob.

73, Carl WS7L

>
> I agree, dont lock the rit.   Jim K4JAF
>
>
> > Sorry Carl, but I strongly disagree on this one.  When you lock the
> > frequency, you lock your transmit frequency.  But that
> doesn't mean the
> > other guy isn't going to shift around a bit, and you don't
> want to go
> > chasing him either.  I think it is very much preferable to
> NOT lock the
> > RIT.
> >
> > Dave W7AQK

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Re: FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

KENT TRIMBLE
In reply to this post by Carl Clawson
Carl . . .

No you don't.  At least I certainly don't.  For net operation, I always
lock the main VFO and tune with the RIT.  That's the whole point of it.  
The transmitter stays on frequency while you tune on either side of it.

73,

Kent  K9ZTV



Carl Clawson wrote:
> Also be aware that the RIT knob does not lock when you lock the main knob. I
> had my own "where did the NCS go?" moment the other day.
>
> I think it ought to lock.
>
> -- Carl
> K3 #486
>  
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RE: FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE TUNING FEATURE

Joe Subich, W4TV-3

Kent,

The option CONFIG: VFO OFS allows the RIT know to act like the
VFO knob in coarse mode if both RIT and XIT are off.  

 VFO OFS:  If ON, the RIT/XIT offset control can be used to tune
           VFO A in large steps when both RIT and XIT are turned
           off. The step sizes vary with mode (see VFO CRS), and
           are the same as the COARSE VFO tuning rates.

Carl is proposing that Lock disable the RIT/XIT control if (and
only if) both RIT and XIT are turned off.  Turning on either RIT
or XIT would enable the RIT/XIT control.  

The proposal makes a lot of sense to me ...

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV
 


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> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] FURTHER GOTCHA ON RIT COARSE
> TUNING FEATURE
>
>
> Carl . . .
>
> No you don't.  At least I certainly don't.  For net
> operation, I always
> lock the main VFO and tune with the RIT.  That's the whole
> point of it.  
> The transmitter stays on frequency while you tune on either
> side of it.
>
> 73,
>
> Kent  K9ZTV
>
>
>
> Carl Clawson wrote:
> > Also be aware that the RIT knob does not lock when you lock
> the main knob. I
> > had my own "where did the NCS go?" moment the other day.
> >
> > I think it ought to lock.
> >
> > -- Carl
> > K3 #486
> >  
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