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Bill-3

K3: Using Linux

I am switching from Windows to Linux (Mint) and am wondering if the K3
and other support software works as well on Linux as it does on Windows?
Advice/comments from Linux users will me most appreciated.

Bill W2BLC K-Line

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Mike Markowski-2

Re: K3: Using Linux

Yes!

What exists works well. The selection is less than Windows, however. I
use hamlib/xlog/xdx and am happy in my simple world.

73 and enjoy,

Mike ab3ap, ubuntu distro (ex PDP11/70, VAX11/780, HP-UX, SGI, UNICOS,
Solaris, BSD, gentoo, ???)

On 07/30/2016 08:29 PM, Bill wrote:
> I am switching from Windows to Linux (Mint) and am wondering if the K3
> and other support software works as well on Linux as it does on Windows?
> Advice/comments from Linux users will me most appreciated.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Bill-3

Re: K3: Using Linux

I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under
Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy
and straight forward as their Windows software?

K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Mike Markowski-2

Re: K3: Using Linux

Yes, it is just as easy. I have no trouble using it for firmware
updates, etc.

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 07/30/2016 09:38 PM, Bill wrote:
> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under
> Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy
> and straight forward as their Windows software?
>
> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>
> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Tim Seed

Re: K3: Using Linux

same here regarding the Elecraft SW

Tim A45wg

> On Jul 31, 2016, at 5:47 AM, Mike Markowski <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Yes, it is just as easy. I have no trouble using it for firmware updates, etc.
>
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
>
> On 07/30/2016 09:38 PM, Bill wrote:
>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under
>> Linux works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy
>> and straight forward as their Windows software?
>>
>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>>
>> Bill W2BLC K-Line
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Nate Bargmann

Re: K3: Using Linux

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* On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
> forward as their Windows software?
>
> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.

Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.

73, Nate

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NZ0T

Re: K3: Using Linux

I use Mint 17.3 64 bit and all the Elecraft utilities work just as well and in the same manner they do on Windows.

Matt Zilmer-3

Re: K3: Using Linux

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All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04.
Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100%
compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make. If you decide
to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty<whatever>
to COM1 in dos_devices. If your serial port under Linux is
/dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type

ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1

[Also, see
http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].

The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.

73,

matt W6NIA

On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
>> forward as their Windows software?
>>
>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>
> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>
> 73, Nate
>

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Mike Rhodes

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C
programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I
learned about that system (and C).
However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting
away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately
slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator,
on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but
counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run
are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to run the
real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the Gates
billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.

Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:

> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu
> 16.04. Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100%
> compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make. If you
> decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between
> /dev/tty<whatever> to COM1 in dos_devices. If your serial port under
> Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type
>
> ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>
> [Also, see
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>
> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.
>
> 73,
>
> matt W6NIA
>
>
> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software
>>> under Linux
>>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and
>>> straight
>>> forward as their Windows software?
>>>
>>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
>> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
>> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
>> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
>> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
>> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>>
>> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>>
>> 73, Nate
>>
>

Mike Rhodes

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly
thought Wine was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of
Windows on Linux where it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That
answers at least part of my question.

Mike / W8DN

On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:

> Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C
> programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I
> learned about that system (and C).
> However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting
> away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately
> slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an
> emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive
> but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to
> run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to
> run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the
> Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.
>
> Mike / W8DN
>
> On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu
>> 16.04. Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems
>> 100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make. If
>> you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between
>> /dev/tty<whatever> to COM1 in dos_devices. If your serial port under
>> Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type
>>
>> ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>>
>> [Also, see
>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>>
>> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit
>> API.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> matt W6NIA
>>
>>
>> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>>>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software
>>>> under Linux
>>>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and
>>>> straight
>>>> forward as their Windows software?
>>>>
>>>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>>> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
>>> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
>>> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
>>> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
>>> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
>>> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>>>
>>> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>>>
>>> 73, Nate
>>>
>>
>

Matt Zilmer-3

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

In reply to this post by Mike Rhodes

This isn't really an Elecraft topic, but ... please see
https://www.winehq.org/license.

You're right, imho. If you have a ton of Windoze software, you should
stay with Windoze. Many users have transitioned to Linux recently,
particularly after the Win10 nagware episode(s). Some of them have Win
software they'd like to keep using. In most cases, wine is a acceptable
and valid option for doing that. If the packages they're running are
already paid for, it doesn't put any additional $ in M$'s pocket.

73,

matt W6NIA

On 7/31/2016 8:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:

a45wg-2

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

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Mike,
What you are possibly getting a little confused is

WINE - which sort of allows Windows executables to run in a Linux environment. How well this solution works depends upon the Application, and the DLL’s. This was initially intended for XP/Win NT. Since lots of Windows apps are now .NET Assemblies this is more tricky to use, as Mono has not been fully embraced by the Open-Source community.

Virtualisation - Oracle-Virtual Box (KVM and VMware) allows you to run a different OS (Operating System) machine in another environment (in this case in a Linux Environment). This solution is the most stable - but at the costs of further enriching a large US Multi-National. A very good technique and one used in Data Centres around the world.

Welcome on-board - there may be a few bumps on the way - but you are at least on the right path.

73s - A45WG

Tim, Muscat: Sultanate of Oman

> On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:18, Mike Rhodes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly thought Wine was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of Windows on Linux where it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That answers at least part of my question.
>
> Mike / W8DN
>
> On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
>> Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about that system (and C).
>> However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.
>>
>> Mike / W8DN
>>
>> On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04. Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make. If you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty<whatever> to COM1 in dos_devices. If your serial port under Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type
>>>
>>> ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>>>
>>> [Also, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>>>
>>> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> matt W6NIA
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>>> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>>>>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
>>>>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
>>>>> forward as their Windows software?
>>>>>
>>>>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>>>> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
>>>> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
>>>> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
>>>> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
>>>> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
>>>> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>>>>
>>>> 73, Nate
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Tony Scandurra K4QE

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

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Mike,

WINE = *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator

You don't run Windows in WINE. You run Windows programs that are then
presented the Windows APIs by WINE. Think of WINE as a translator, not an
emulator.

I otherwise agree with your sentiment.

I prefer to run apps in their native environment. Once my favorite
programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
to Linux in a heartbeat!

73, Tony K4QE

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming
> on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about
> that system (and C).
> However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away
> from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a
> fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux
> box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since
> the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it
> just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent
> is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by
> running under an emulator.
>
> Mike / W8DN

kstover

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

In reply to this post by a45wg-2

Virtual Box is free for non-commercial users. You've got to have some
pretty good hardware meaning dual core processor, as much memory as you
can afford and a good video card.

I have it running on a quad core AMD @ 4.0GHz, 32G of DDR3 ram, and a
small time gamer class video card. I have four virtual machines
installed, XP, Win7 which gets used the most, Windows 10, and for old
times sake DOS 6.22 to run Castle Wolfenstein. The hard drives are a
pair of 512 Gig SSD's. I don't run an Linux distro VM because the
accessibility options for the Linux desktop just plain suck compared to
Windows.

You can run Windows on a Linux/FreeBSD host and don't have to dork
around trying to get WINE running correctly. WINES days are numbered.

On 7/31/2016 10:28 AM, a45wg wrote:

> Mike,
> What you are possibly getting a little confused is
>
> WINE - which sort of allows Windows executables to run in a Linux environment. How well this solution works depends upon the Application, and the DLL’s. This was initially intended for XP/Win NT. Since lots of Windows apps are now .NET Assemblies this is more tricky to use, as Mono has not been fully embraced by the Open-Source community.
>
> Virtualisation - Oracle-Virtual Box (KVM and VMware) allows you to run a different OS (Operating System) machine in another environment (in this case in a Linux Environment). This solution is the most stable - but at the costs of further enriching a large US Multi-National. A very good technique and one used in Data Centres around the world.
>
> Welcome on-board - there may be a few bumps on the way - but you are at least on the right path.
>
> 73s - A45WG
>
> Tim, Muscat: Sultanate of Oman
>
>
>
>
>> On 31 Jul 2016, at 19:18, Mike Rhodes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, I already see I have misunderstood something. I mistakenly thought Wine was an emulator that would allow you to run a copy of Windows on Linux where it is actually a Windows on Linux simulator. That answers at least part of my question.
>>
>> Mike / W8DN
>>
>> On 7/31/2016 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes wrote:
>>> Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about that system (and C).
>>> However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that Linux box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive. Since the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based, it just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the intent is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by running under an emulator.
>>>
>>> Mike / W8DN
>>>
>>> On 7/31/2016 10:39 AM, Matt Zilmer wrote:
>>>> All the Elecraft utilities I use work fine on Wine, under Ubuntu 16.04. Using Wine dodges the multiarch requirement, and it seems 100% compatible with all Windoze API calls the utilities make. If you decide to go this way, you'll have to make a symlink between /dev/tty<whatever> to COM1 in dos_devices. If your serial port under Linux is /dev/ttyUSB0, in a terminal type
>>>>
>>>> ln -s /dev/ttyUSB0 ~/.wine/dosdevices/com1
>>>>
>>>> [Also, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/685985/symbolic-link-between-usb-and-com-port].
>>>>
>>>> The Linux native utilities are ported from Win32 to the Linux 32-bit API.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> matt W6NIA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/31/2016 4:01 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>>>>> * On 2016 30 Jul 20:39 -0500, Bill wrote:
>>>>>> I am only interested in how well the Elecraft provided software under Linux
>>>>>> works? I do not use any third party stuff at all. Is it as easy and straight
>>>>>> forward as their Windows software?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> K3 Utility, KPA Utility, etc.
>>>>> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
>>>>> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
>>>>> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
>>>>> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
>>>>> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
>>>>> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like more of a hassle than it really is.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Nate
>>>>>
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Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

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After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and upgraded my
and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.

Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our conversions
have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze that we
have ever had.

Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little spooky
not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that hasn't
made any difference thus far.

YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to try Win
10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable time) in
a conversion to Linux.

73, Guy K2AV

On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Anthony Scandurra <
[hidden email]> wrote:

> Mike,
>
> WINE = *W*ine *I*s *N*ot an *E*mulator
>
> You don't run Windows in WINE. You run Windows programs that are then
> presented the Windows APIs by WINE. Think of WINE as a translator, not an
> emulator.
>
> I otherwise agree with your sentiment.
>
> I prefer to run apps in their native environment. Once my favorite
> programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
> to Linux in a heartbeat!
>
> 73, Tony K4QE
>
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Mike Rhodes <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Ok, I am not a Unix/Linux user. Years ago I did a little C programming
> > on a real-time Unix box but have forgotten way more than I learned about
> > that system (and C).
> > However, I have to ask the question - what is the point of getting away
> > from "windoze" by going to a Linux box and then immediately slapping a
> > fully licensed copy of "Windoze", running under an emulator, on that
> Linux
> > box. It just seems not only counter-intuitive but counter-productive.
> Since
> > the majority of the apps that I wish to run are strictly Windows based,
> it
> > just seems to make more sense to run the real thing natively. If the
> intent
> > is to not add more to the Gates billions then you have defeated that by
> > running under an emulator.
> >
> > Mike / W8DN
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Don Wilhelm

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

I have to agree with Guy. I have 7 computers on my home network and the
only one still running Win7 is the one at the workbench, which is soon
to be replaced because it just runs too slow, and would not upgrade to
Win10 anyway.
No problems running any ham software on Win10, and the OS seems to be
quite solid.

In the past, I have tried the switch to Linux, but had numerous
problems. My conclusion was that anyone who just wanted a stand-alone
computer for web surfing, email and document creation can do that easily
with Linux, Firefox, Thunderbird and LibreOffice. Unfortunately,
getting communications between networked computers is much more complex,
particularly if the installed network is Windows based. I gave up,
Windows may have its complexities, but it installs easily and "just runs".
If you want to become a computer geek, then have at it with Linux - the
support is a mixed bag of geek talk and insults if you do not understand
their language.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/31/2016 12:10 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows 10 nagware, and upgraded my
> and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.
>
> Regardless of how one might compare Windows and Linux, both our conversions
> have been stable as a rock, apparently the best version of Windoze that we
> have ever had.
>
> Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal now. It was a little spooky
> not being able to closely control the upgrades in Win 10, but that hasn't
> made any difference thus far.
>
> YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to Linux. You may want to try Win
> 10 before you invest all those resources (including your valuable time) in
> a conversion to Linux.
>
> 73, Guy K2AV
>

Nate Bargmann

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

In reply to this post by Tony Scandurra K4QE

* On 2016 31 Jul 10:35 -0500, Anthony Scandurra wrote:

> I prefer to run apps in their native environment. Once my favorite
> programs DXLab and N1MM+ are able to run in Linux natively, I will switch
> to Linux in a heartbeat!

I suspect the sun will go dark first...

;-)

73, Nate

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Re: K3: Using Linux

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* On 2016 31 Jul 06:03 -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:

> Be aware that the Elecraft utilities are only available in 32 bit
> versions at this time. If you use a distribution that allows
> 'multiarch', and Mint should being a Debian derivative, you will need
> i386 architecture enabled if your base architecture is amd64. Ubuntu,
> and probably Mint, have this enabled on amd64 installations. You will
> probably have to manually install the i386 versions of some libraries.

To help, I've posted a short note on my blog about enabling multiarch
and which i386 packages need to be installed. So far I have tested the
K3 and P3 utilities:

http://www.n0nb.us/blog/2016/07/running-electraft-utilities-on-linux-amd64-and-multiarch/

73, Nate

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Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

In reply to this post by Guy Olinger K2AV

I agree with Guy, and want to add a comment;

I have had a couple strange things happen. Both turned out to be due to
running a non-Windows browser.

Before you cuss out Windows 10, try the user groups for clues. Save
yourself some time and make Microsoft Edge your default browser.

Dick, n0ce

On 7/31/2016 11:10 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

Phil Wheeler-2

Re: K3: Using Linux - OT

Edge is a bit lame until the new release (Tues is
it?); won't take plug-ins, they say.

I prefer Firefox :-)

Phil W7OX

On 7/31/16 9:17 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

> I agree with Guy, and want to add a comment;
>
> I have had a couple strange things happen. Both
> turned out to be due to running a non-Windows
> browser.
>
> Before you cuss out Windows 10, try the user
> groups for clues. Save yourself some time and
> make Microsoft Edge your default browser.
>
> Dick, n0ce
>
>
> On 7/31/2016 11:10 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>> After waiting 6 months I gave in to the Windows
>> 10 nagware, and upgraded my
>> and my wife's Win 7 Pro machines.
>>
>> Regardless of how one might compare Windows and
>> Linux, both our conversions
>> have been stable as a rock, apparently the best
>> version of Windoze that we
>> have ever had.
>>
>> Running ham stuff on Win 10 is a better deal
>> now. It was a little spooky
>> not being able to closely control the upgrades
>> in Win 10, but that hasn't
>> made any difference thus far.
>>
>> YMMV, but have a really good reason to go to
>> Linux. You may want to try Win
>> 10 before you invest all those resources
>> (including your valuable time) in
>> a conversion to Linux.
>>
>> 73, Guy K2AV