K3 Utility questions

[Gary Smith-2]

I'm starting to explore other options with
different software and my K3s. My main
interest is in being able to send CW, RTTY
and it would be a nice plus to send from
the voice memories when calling in a
pileup and not have to keep hitting the
function button every time I put out my
call.

Seeing as I have the K3 Utility already
working, I have found the terminal seems
to work well for the immediate needs on
CW. I do though have to run it separately
from my logging program because the only
port that is available is #8 and that is
dedicated to the K3 and the logging
program takes ownership of it. Once I make
a contact I have to shut off the utility
and load the program to get it logged.
Then if I want to use the terminal I have
to do it all over again.

I tried to use OmniRig to run the
K3/logging program and the Elecraft
Utility but see no way to share the
utility with it.

- Is there another software to use the
terminal with the K3 at the same time?
Maybe another method? Right now I'm trying
not to add more hardware.

- Also, I tried to use the memories in the
Utilities terminal for RTTY but could not
get RTTY to work. I'm sure I missed
something I need to change in the
configuration but if so, I don't know what
it is.

Suggestions?

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J

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Gary,
        I also had a look around for control software - but could find nothing I really liked (There re some great programs out there) - but either too complex or not focused on what I want. So….

        Write your own ! I know it sounds daunting - but the K3 has an excellent programming document - and the K3 Utility gives you a test bed to try out your commands (I would suggest a degree of caution) - once you have that done - it is simply a matter of an interface - which can be as complex or as simple as you want.

Assuming you do not want to write your own - but wish to use multiple programs at the same time - then….

        Depending upon the port connection mechanism you are using - will depend if the port is available for other devices to use. Most software opens a device similar to a file - i.e. in exclusive mode. Thus blocking other programs from using that port.

However - there are options….

Mac: the Mac seems quite happy with the /dev/CU-xxxxx to allow multiple ports
Windows: I think on Windows you could look for a virtual port driver - and gain access to the “real” port using virtual ports. I did this years ago for sharing GPS Receivers amongst programs.
Linux:  you should use a Daemon (a Central process that listens to many clients who wish to talk to the Device). The Linux mechanism is far superior (Opps maybe I am a little biased, for it could be implemented as a service in Windows also - its just almost no Windows programmer ever does this) - but it does add another layer of complexity to the whole control process.

The Daemon/detached process mechanism is best/easiest used using ricgtld (Linux) - I do see people using it for Windows also - but I have no experience on that.

Regards

        Tim
        A45WG

> On 1 Apr 2016, at 23:53, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm starting to explore other options with
> different software and my K3s. My main
> interest is in being able to send CW, RTTY
> and it would be a nice plus to send from
> the voice memories when calling in a
> pileup and not have to keep hitting the
> function button every time I put out my
> call.
>
> Seeing as I have the K3 Utility already
> working, I have found the terminal seems
> to work well for the immediate needs on
> CW. I do though have to run it separately
> from my logging program because the only
> port that is available is #8 and that is
> dedicated to the K3 and the logging
> program takes ownership of it. Once I make
> a contact I have to shut off the utility
> and load the program to get it logged.
> Then if I want to use the terminal I have
> to do it all over again.
>
> I tried to use OmniRig to run the
> K3/logging program and the Elecraft
> Utility but see no way to share the
> utility with it.
>
> - Is there another software to use the
> terminal with the K3 at the same time?
> Maybe another method? Right now I'm trying
> not to add more hardware.
>
> - Also, I tried to use the memories in the
> Utilities terminal for RTTY but could not
> get RTTY to work. I'm sure I missed
> something I need to change in the
> configuration but if so, I don't know what
> it is.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> Thanks & 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
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