K3 - WRTC Customs Pro Forma listings

[Lu Romero - W4LT]

Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.

>http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
>http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf

What I find amazing in these lists is that Scott Robbins,
the Ex-Product Manager of the Ten Tec Orion transceiver
product line, brought with him, for his personal use...

...An Elecraft K3!

That's like Col. Sanders going to Chick-Fil-A for lunch!  Or
Papa John ordering Pizza Hut for Dinner!

And, contesting Jedi and CQ WW Champion Multi Multi station
owner Tim Duffy, who operates the defacto "NASCAR Factory
Team" for Icom (complete with "Team ICOM" uniforms), and who
apears in advertisements touting the superior performance of
the Icom 7XXX line of transceivers, brought with him for his
personal use...

...An Elecraft K3!

That's like Dale Ernhardt bringing a Toyota Camry to drive
in the Daytona 500!  

This list is sort of like discovering that Bill Gates uses
an Apple Mac Book running OS/X to do Microsoft presentations
with!

Now, we all know that the invitees to this party could
afford to bring *anything* they wanted to bring.  Im also
sure that any rig manufacturer would have been happy to
supply them with anything they wanted, just for the
asking...

But they both showed up with K3's.  So did most of the
competitors!  

Why?

Did Eric and Wayne stack the deck by giving away free radios
(the *real* reason for the upcoming price increases, right)?
 But even if I got a free radio, wouldnt I want to use what
I am most familiar operating with and had the highest
possible performance in this important competition?

Could it be because they would have exceeded their baggage
weight limit if they brought their usual rig?  Or was it
because of the tables supplied for the tents had fragile
light weight legs that could collapse if loaded with 80lbs
of radio?  Or maybe because the organizers would not supply
trucks to take their radios to the tents... Its a really big
field at WRTC, you know.  Lugging a 7800 or a 9000 on your
back for a kilometer could be life threatening to you and
career enhancing for your Chiropractor!

The choices these two guys, as well as most of the other
competitors, made for their personal WRTC competition rig
say alot to me.

-lu w4lt (currently/9V1)-


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[Guy, K2AV]

The last count I saw had 49 K3's  16 MP's  16 Pro III's  and only a
tiny scattering of newer Yakencom rigs. One Orion.

There would have been 51 K3's but a lightning strike took out a pair,
which were replaced on a hair-on-fire emergency basis with a pair of
old Kenwoods (850's ?).

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:03 PM, Lu Romero <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
>
>>http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
>>http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
>
> What I find amazing in these lists is that Scott Robbins,
> the Ex-Product Manager of the Ten Tec Orion transceiver
> product line, brought with him, for his personal use...
>
> ...An Elecraft K3!
>
> That's like Col. Sanders going to Chick-Fil-A for lunch!  Or
> Papa John ordering Pizza Hut for Dinner!

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[David Gilbert]

I wouldn't be surprised if weight and size had something to do with
their choice as well, though.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 7/14/2010 8:03 PM, Lu Romero wrote:

> Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
>
>    
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
>>      
> What I find amazing in these lists is that Scott Robbins,
> the Ex-Product Manager of the Ten Tec Orion transceiver
> product line, brought with him, for his personal use...
>
> ...An Elecraft K3!
>
> That's like Col. Sanders going to Chick-Fil-A for lunch!  Or
> Papa John ordering Pizza Hut for Dinner!
>
> And, contesting Jedi and CQ WW Champion Multi Multi station
> owner Tim Duffy, who operates the defacto "NASCAR Factory
> Team" for Icom (complete with "Team ICOM" uniforms), and who
> apears in advertisements touting the superior performance of
> the Icom 7XXX line of transceivers, brought with him for his
> personal use...
>
> ...An Elecraft K3!
>
> That's like Dale Ernhardt bringing a Toyota Camry to drive
> in the Daytona 500!
>
> This list is sort of like discovering that Bill Gates uses
> an Apple Mac Book running OS/X to do Microsoft presentations
> with!
>
> Now, we all know that the invitees to this party could
> afford to bring *anything* they wanted to bring.  Im also
> sure that any rig manufacturer would have been happy to
> supply them with anything they wanted, just for the
> asking...
>
> But they both showed up with K3's.  So did most of the
> competitors!
>
> Why?
>
> Did Eric and Wayne stack the deck by giving away free radios
> (the *real* reason for the upcoming price increases, right)?
>   But even if I got a free radio, wouldnt I want to use what
> I am most familiar operating with and had the highest
> possible performance in this important competition?
>
> Could it be because they would have exceeded their baggage
> weight limit if they brought their usual rig?  Or was it
> because of the tables supplied for the tents had fragile
> light weight legs that could collapse if loaded with 80lbs
> of radio?  Or maybe because the organizers would not supply
> trucks to take their radios to the tents... Its a really big
> field at WRTC, you know.  Lugging a 7800 or a 9000 on your
> back for a kilometer could be life threatening to you and
> career enhancing for your Chiropractor!
>
> The choices these two guys, as well as most of the other
> competitors, made for their personal WRTC competition rig
> say alot to me.
>
> -lu w4lt (currently/9V1)-
>
>
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[wayne burdick]

Elecraft didn't influence anyone's WRTC rig choice. It's possible some  
of our customers did. If so, thanks :)

Wayne
N6KR



"Lu Romero" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
>
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
>
> What I find amazing in these lists is...
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[Gary Gregory]

Grin...good comment

I used to think I had superior intellect after I got my K3...now it seems
they are multiplying at an ever increasing rate in my area...ya think I
educated the masses too well?

73's
Gary

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Elecraft didn't influence anyone's WRTC rig choice. It's possible some
> of our customers did. If so, thanks :)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
> "Lu Romero" <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
> >
> >> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
> >> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
> >
> > What I find amazing in these lists is...
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K3 #679
For everything else there's Mastercard!!!
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[Cookie]

Are you sure about that Wayne?  You designed and produced the transceiver that
a great many top contesters think is the BEST AVAILABLE, regardless of price and
at the same time kept it small enough to carry on an iron bird and kept the
price at an affordable amount.  I can't think of any possible more powerful
influence.
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ




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Elecraft didn't influence anyone's WRTC rig choice. It's possible some 
of our customers did. If so, thanks :)

Wayne
N6KR



"Lu Romero" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Incredibly interesting between-the-lines reading here.
>
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_SVO.pdf
>> http://www.wrtc2010.ru/press/R3_license_for_DME.pdf
>
> What I find amazing in these lists is...
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[Byron N6NUL]

While I do love me some Elecraft, what I find most amazing, and motivating, about the WRTC scores are the antennas and power levels they used:

http://www.wrtc2010.ru/?id=23

* 20/15/10 m tri-bander with one feed line and PL-259 male connector on 12m tower with antenna rotator and control unit
* 40 m Inverted V dipole with feed line and PL-259 male connector
* 80 m Inverted V dipole with feed line and PL-259 male connector
* 2 x 100 watts peak power monitors

with the 80v at about 11m and the 40 at 10m, I assume attached to the same tower.

Three to 4 thousand QSO's and 3 to 4 megapoints with 100 watts, one transmitter at a time on a too-low tower?  Incredible, motivating, and a bit depressing as it puts paid to a cherished complaint: it's my antennas fault!

Byron KI6NUL
K1 #2799

wayne burdick wrote

Elecraft didn't influence anyone's WRTC rig choice. It's possible some  
of our customers did. If so, thanks :)

[Jim Brown-10]

On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:03:06 -0400, Lu Romero wrote:

>But they both showed up with K3's.  So did most of the
>competitors!  

>Why?

Two very simple reasons. 1) Anyone who has used one in a multi-
transmitter environment, or in a major contest, knows that the K3
has the best behaviour of any available rig in the presence of
strong signals in a contesting environment. 2) Its feature set and
user interface was strongly influenced by top contesters, including
some of those who took their own radios to WRTC.

73, Jim K9YC


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On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 08:44:42 -0700 (PDT), Byron KI6NUL
<[hidden email]> wrote:


I read the rules and equipment available to the operators at the link
below.

Now that's a real contest and a level playing field!  Outstanding!

Tom Childers
N5GE Antenna
4507 Branchview Drive
Arlington, TX 76017
[hidden email]
http://www.n5ge.com

>
>
>While I do love me some Elecraft, what I find most amazing, and motivating,
>about the WRTC scores are the antennas and power levels they used:
>
>http://www.wrtc2010.ru/?id=23
>
[snip]

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[John_N1JM]

K3LR's, Tim Duffy's, partner(the boss) was the one that specified K3s. But I can't imagine hauling 7800s to Russia.