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K3 - WSJT-X help

Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, v2.0.1
when I no longer would get power out.

WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The K3
keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is talking to
the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I go into
Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on WSJT it
turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.

The typical setup is LP-Bridge, DXBase, DXBridge, WSJT-X. Yes, I know I need
to update to DXLab to properly interface. So I closed everything but WSJT-X
and have it talking directly to the K3. No difference. Also using the USB
interface on the K3.

Any ideas what could have happened and any suggestions? Maybe I bumped
something?

N2TK, Tony

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Don Wilhelm

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

Tony,

Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem with
audio into the K3.

How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the 5th
bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.

See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, v2.0.1
> when I no longer would get power out.
>
> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The K3
> keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is talking to
> the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I go into
> Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on WSJT it
> turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

Don,
Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings > Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
Weird.

73,
N2TK, Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help

Tony,

Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem with audio into the K3.

How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.

See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>
> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The
> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>

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N4ZR

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

I run into this over and over with Windows 10, and I'm embarrassed to
say I often don't know what makes the difference. I use the microphone
input and speakers output on an outboard USB sound card, and generally
find myself just dinking around with the various sound settings until I
find something that causes it to start working. My suspicion is that
Windows 10 update has a nasty habit of resetting audio arrangements to
some arbitrary set of "defaults."

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 11/13/2019 8:10 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:

> Don,
> Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings > Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
> Weird.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>
> Tony,
>
> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem with audio into the K3.
>
> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>
> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>>
>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The
>> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
>> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
>> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

Using Windows 10 Pro, I do use the computer for other audio activities,
editing music, choir performances, listening to music and such.   This
will change the audio parameter settings of Windows.    Thus one needs
to understand the various selections and audio level values for the
computer, the software and the radio.

I use the USB input on my K3S and have a single USB cable which connects
to the computer. I do not have or use a separate interface. I find
this keeps things more reliable and less complex. The WSJT-X software
sets the radio parameters when I open the application. I may need to
tweak the computer levels a bit, depending on what I was doing last.
Otherwise, it is solid and reliable.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/13/2019 8:22 AM, N4ZR wrote:

> I run into this over and over with Windows 10, and I'm embarrassed to
> say I often don't know what makes the difference. I use the
> microphone input and speakers output on an outboard USB sound card,
> and generally find myself just dinking around with the various sound
> settings until I find something that causes it to start working. My
> suspicion is that Windows 10 update has a nasty habit of resetting
> audio arrangements to some arbitrary set of "defaults."
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/13/2019 8:10 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>> Don,
>> Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was
>> so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no
>> audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings >
>> Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio
>> CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition
>> Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was
>> supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the
>> setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
>> Weird.
>>
>> 73,
>> N2TK, Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem
>> with audio into the K3.
>>
>> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the
>> 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>>
>> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>>> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>>>
>>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The
>>> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>>> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
>>> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
>>> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the
>>> K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>>
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Bill Frantz

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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On my Macintosh, if I don't have the K3 USB connector plugged in
at both ends when I start wsjt-x, it automatically reverts to
the internal microphone and speaker. I usually catch the problem
during my A to Z check of all the possible settings.

73 Bill AE6JV/1

On 11/13/19 at 8:10 AM, [hidden email] (N2TK via
Elecraft) wrote:

>Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It
>was so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that.
>There was no audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in
>WSJT-X > Settings > Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer
>Speakers (USB Audio CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS
>(Realtek High Definition Audio), which is my audio for my pc.
>Changed it to what it was supposed to be and now I am fine. I
>have no idea what changed the setting as I was working station
>after station when this happened.
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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I have had this happen intermittently when using the KPA1500 with my K3S. I’m pretty sure it’s an RF feedback issue with the PC + WSJT-X. Never happens when NOT on FT8.

> On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, v2.0.1
> when I no longer would get power out.
>
> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The K3
> keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is talking to
> the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I go into
> Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on WSJT it
> turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>
>
>
> The typical setup is LP-Bridge, DXBase, DXBridge, WSJT-X. Yes, I know I need
> to update to DXLab to properly interface. So I closed everything but WSJT-X
> and have it talking directly to the K3. No difference. Also using the USB
> interface on the K3.
>
>
>
> Any ideas what could have happened and any suggestions? Maybe I bumped
> something?
>
> N2TK, Tony
>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

I was on 20M at the time the problem arose. Will watch to see if it happens again as to what band and which antenna I am using.

73,

N2TK, Tony

From: Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:40 AM
To: [hidden email]
Cc: Bob Gibson via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help

I have had this happen intermittently when using the KPA1500 with my K3S. I’m pretty sure it’s an RF feedback issue with the PC + WSJT-X. Never happens when NOT on FT8.

On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:

Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, v2.0.1
when I no longer would get power out.

WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The K3
keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is talking to
the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I go into
Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on WSJT it
turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.

The typical setup is LP-Bridge, DXBase, DXBridge, WSJT-X. Yes, I know I need
to update to DXLab to properly interface. So I closed everything but WSJT-X
and have it talking directly to the K3. No difference. Also using the USB
interface on the K3.

Any ideas what could have happened and any suggestions? Maybe I bumped
something?

N2TK, Tony

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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

And if you are using a beam / directional antenna, the position of the
antenna may affect the RF level at the operating position.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/13/2019 11:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:

> I was on 20M at the time the problem arose. Will watch to see if it happens again as to what band and which antenna I am using.
>
> 73,
>
> N2TK, Tony
>
>
>
> From: Carl Yaffey <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 10:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Bob Gibson via Elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>
>
>
> I have had this happen intermittently when using the KPA1500 with my K3S. I’m pretty sure it’s an RF feedback issue with the PC + WSJT-X. Never happens when NOT on FT8.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Nov 13, 2019, at 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X, v2.0.1
> when I no longer would get power out.
>
> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out. The K3
> keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is talking to
> the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I go into
> Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on WSJT it
> turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>
>
>
> The typical setup is LP-Bridge, DXBase, DXBridge, WSJT-X. Yes, I know I need
> to update to DXLab to properly interface. So I closed everything but WSJT-X
> and have it talking directly to the K3. No difference. Also using the USB
> interface on the K3.
>
>
>
> Any ideas what could have happened and any suggestions? Maybe I bumped
> something?
>
> N2TK, Tony
>
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>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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Hi Bob,
What is puzzling is why the audio settings were changed on WSJT. I surely wouldn't have gone into the program and make a change like that while running stations.
73,
N2TK, Tony

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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 9:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help

Using Windows 10 Pro, I do use the computer for other audio activities, editing music, choir performances, listening to music and such. This will change the audio parameter settings of Windows. Thus one needs to understand the various selections and audio level values for the computer, the software and the radio.

I use the USB input on my K3S and have a single USB cable which connects to the computer. I do not have or use a separate interface. I find this keeps things more reliable and less complex. The WSJT-X software sets the radio parameters when I open the application. I may need to tweak the computer levels a bit, depending on what I was doing last. Otherwise, it is solid and reliable.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 11/13/2019 8:22 AM, N4ZR wrote:

> I run into this over and over with Windows 10, and I'm embarrassed to
> say I often don't know what makes the difference. I use the
> microphone input and speakers output on an outboard USB sound card,
> and generally find myself just dinking around with the various sound
> settings until I find something that causes it to start working. My
> suspicion is that Windows 10 update has a nasty habit of resetting
> audio arrangements to some arbitrary set of "defaults."
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.
>
> On 11/13/2019 8:10 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>> Don,
>> Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was
>> so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no
>> audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings >
>> Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio
>> CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition
>> Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was
>> supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the
>> setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
>> Weird.
>>
>> 73,
>> N2TK, Tony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem
>> with audio into the K3.
>>
>> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the
>> 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>>
>> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>>> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>>>
>>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out.
>>> The
>>> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>>> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
>>> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
>>> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the
>>> K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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Hi Pete,
Maybe it is just magic?
73,
N2TK, Tony

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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 9:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help

I run into this over and over with Windows 10, and I'm embarrassed to say I often don't know what makes the difference. I use the microphone input and speakers output on an outboard USB sound card, and generally find myself just dinking around with the various sound settings until I find something that causes it to start working. My suspicion is that Windows 10 update has a nasty habit of resetting audio arrangements to some arbitrary set of "defaults."

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 11/13/2019 8:10 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:

> Don,
> Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings > Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
> Weird.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>
> Tony,
>
> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem with audio into the K3.
>
> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>
> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>>
>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out.
>> The
>> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
>> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
>> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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As I brought up this discussion, I should add:

Many of the suggestions that the folks gave me really help with getting
me going, but the one issue that should not have been an issue was the
Audio settings in WJST.   I had selected the K3 Audio out USB (I renamed
my audio devices in Win10 so I know which USB sound device is which) My
setting should have worked but it did not.   I fixed it by setting audio
output device as my computer speakers. Saved that settings. The went
right back in and changed it to K3 Audio out.   That fixed it. I would
consider that issue is with WJST not the K3USB stuff.

Rich

On 11/13/2019 12:06 PM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> What is puzzling is why the audio settings were changed on WSJT. I surely wouldn't have gone into the program and make a change like that while running stations.
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Bob McGraw K4TAX
> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 9:31 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>
> Using Windows 10 Pro, I do use the computer for other audio activities, editing music, choir performances, listening to music and such. This will change the audio parameter settings of Windows. Thus one needs to understand the various selections and audio level values for the computer, the software and the radio.
>
> I use the USB input on my K3S and have a single USB cable which connects to the computer. I do not have or use a separate interface. I find this keeps things more reliable and less complex. The WSJT-X software sets the radio parameters when I open the application. I may need to tweak the computer levels a bit, depending on what I was doing last. Otherwise, it is solid and reliable.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 11/13/2019 8:22 AM, N4ZR wrote:
>> I run into this over and over with Windows 10, and I'm embarrassed to
>> say I often don't know what makes the difference. I use the
>> microphone input and speakers output on an outboard USB sound card,
>> and generally find myself just dinking around with the various sound
>> settings until I find something that causes it to start working. My
>> suspicion is that Windows 10 update has a nasty habit of resetting
>> audio arrangements to some arbitrary set of "defaults."
>>
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
>> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
>> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
>> For spots, please use your favorite
>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>
>> On 11/13/2019 8:10 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>>> Don,
>>> Tnx for the reminder on checking the audio on the ALC meter. It was
>>> so long since I had a problem I forgot about doing that. There was no
>>> audio shown on the K3. What happened is that in WSJT-X > Settings >
>>> Audio > Soundcard, The OUTPUT was no longer Speakers (USB Audio
>>> CODEC). Somehow it changed to SPEAKERS (Realtek High Definition
>>> Audio), which is my audio for my pc. Changed it to what it was
>>> supposed to be and now I am fine. I have no idea what changed the
>>> setting as I was working station after station when this happened.
>>> Weird.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> N2TK, Tony
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2019 7:40 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - WSJT-X help
>>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem
>>> with audio into the K3.
>>>
>>> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the
>>> 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>>>
>>> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>>>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>>>> v2.0.1 when I no longer would get power out.
>>>>
>>>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out.
>>>> The
>>>> K3 keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>>>> talking to the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding
>>>> and when I go into Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green.
>>>> When I hit TUNE on WSJT it turns to red and the red TX light on the
>>>> K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>>>
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Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

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YES, on my KX3.. I have seen (when I change modes, often) that I have
zero ALC (not 4/5 bars). IF I turn the mike gain up, still zero. AT
THIS POINT, I turn the mike gain to zero and start turning it up. The
mike gain was too high and starting over works... FT8 is working
again. I also run wsjt-x with 20db att so that I have "range" with the
mike gain. OR what ever it might be with the K3...

73, steve WB3LGC

On 11/13/19 7:39 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Tony,
>
> Soundcard problem or K3 problem. This is most commonly a problem with
> audio into the K3.
>
> How many bars illuminate on the ALC meter? It should be 4 with the
> 5th bar flashing. If not, look at the audio levels.
>
> See the article on my website www.w3fpr.com
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 11/13/2019 7:04 AM, N2TK via Elecraft wrote:
>> Scratching my head. I was making Q's on FT8 with my K3 and WSJT-X,
>> v2.0.1
>> when I no longer would get power out.
>>
>> WSJT is keying the K3 (Red transmit light is on) but no power out.
>> The K3
>> keys fine with power out in CW or other modes is fine. WSJT is
>> talking to
>> the K3. WSJT shows the correct frequency, it is decoding and when I
>> go into
>> Settings > Radio and hit Test CAT it goes green. When I hit TUNE on
>> WSJT it
>> turns to red and the red TX light on the K3 comes on. But no power out.
>>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: K3 - WSJT-X help

Steve,

The KX3 has a built-in protection against audio overload. If there is
too much audio, it shuts down the audio chain.

Take a look at your mic gain setting on the KX3 - it is best set to
mid-range. The resolution between steps is much greater at the low end
and high end of the mic gain, and you may have difficulty setting for
the proper number of ALC bars (in other words, the gain control is
"touchy"). At mid-range, the steps are smaller and proper adjustment is
easier.

So if you have the mic gain set to a low level, work with the computer
soundcard audio levels and the WSJT-X Power slider (misnamed because it
is really an audio level control) to get them near a mid-position and
allow the KX3 mic gain control will have a better range.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/7/2019 2:09 PM, stephen shearer wrote:
> YES, on my KX3.. I have seen (when I change modes, often) that I have
> zero ALC (not 4/5 bars). IF I turn the mike gain up, still zero. AT
> THIS POINT, I turn the mike gain to zero and start turning it up. The
> mike gain was too high and starting over works...
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