K3 and HRD turning AGC off
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I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional
AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be apparent after going back to receive. However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP machine. I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can be a little over-defensive at times :-) 73, Stephen G4SJP K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least once before buying the P3. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi Stephen:
YES, the same thing happens to me several times a week.. I have the same setup as you referenced to K3-HRD and I'm also using the HRD logbook and DX Cluster.. de W4CCS On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: > I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional > AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can > remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the > impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be > apparent after going back to receive. > > However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not > whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR > call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at > the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a > station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time > I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned > itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, > however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is > constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering > the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that > I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using > windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP > machine. > > I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be > honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is > small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I > do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. > > Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else > has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can > be a little over-defensive at times :-) > > 73, Stephen G4SJP > > K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least > once before buying the P3. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: K3 and HRD turning AGC off
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Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least.
73s Jim, W4ATK > > > On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional >> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can >> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the >> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be >> apparent after going back to receive. >> >> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not >> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR >> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at >> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a >> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time >> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned >> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, >> however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is >> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering >> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that >> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using >> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP >> machine. >> >> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be >> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is >> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I >> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >> >> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else >> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can >> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >> >> 73, Stephen G4SJP >> >> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least >> once before buying the P3. >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html JIM ROGERS, W4ATK [hidden email] http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Thanks Jim
Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! 73 Stephen G4SJP On 07/05/2011 16:12, "JAMES ROGERS" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to >resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I >have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an >elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do >this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I >observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the >shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to >say the least. > >73s Jim, W4ATK >> >> >> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing >>>occasional >>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I >>>can >>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed >>>the >>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed >>>to be >>> apparent after going back to receive. >>> >>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and >>>not >>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising >>>my GR >>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was >>>looking at >>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a >>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. >>>This time >>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had >>>turned >>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the >>>logbook, >>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD >>>is >>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is >>>entering >>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb >>>adaptor that >>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using >>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP >>> machine. >>> >>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be >>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD >>>running is >>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. >>>Nothing I >>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >>> >>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone >>>else >>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they >>>can >>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >>> >>> 73, Stephen G4SJP >>> >>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at >>>least >>> once before buying the P3. >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >JIM ROGERS, W4ATK >[hidden email] >http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk >K3/100 P3 >K2/10 > > > > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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It happens exactly the same to me, totally unpredictable and not relevant to a sequence of cat command I may send via HRD ! It's really funny and frustrating :-( I'm using HRD into a virtualized XP Pro machine at a Mac Mini , using a 232-Usb adapter.
In the past I had similar strange behaviour using HRD 4 under XP Pro virtualized at an Opensuse pc and the rig was 756 Pro III. In that case suddenly and without any reason the AF gain went to the maximun (my wife enjoyed it so much....). I feel it will be really hard to fix HI ! 73 to everybody Giorgio IK1BXN I think it's not an Elecraft problem too, Il giorno 07/mag/2011, alle ore 17.12, JAMES ROGERS ha scritto: > Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to say the least. > > 73s Jim, W4ATK >> >> >> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing occasional >>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I can >>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed the >>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed to be >>> apparent after going back to receive. >>> >>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and not >>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising my GR >>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was looking at >>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a >>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. This time >>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had turned >>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the logbook, >>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD is >>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is entering >>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb adaptor that >>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using >>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP >>> machine. >>> >>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be >>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD running is >>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. Nothing I >>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >>> >>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone else >>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they can >>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >>> >>> 73, Stephen G4SJP >>> >>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at least >>> once before buying the P3. >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > JIM ROGERS, W4ATK > [hidden email] > http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk > K3/100 P3 > K2/10 > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: K3 and HRD turning AGC off
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> Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download > etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not "abuse" the K3 CAT interface. No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: > Thanks Jim > > Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on > receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! > Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD > logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! > > 73 Stephen G4SJP > > > On 07/05/2011 16:12, "JAMES ROGERS"<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to >> resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I >> have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an >> elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do >> this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I >> observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the >> shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to >> say the least. >> >> 73s Jim, W4ATK >>> >>> >>> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >>>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing >>>> occasional >>>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I >>>> can >>>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed >>>> the >>>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed >>>> to be >>>> apparent after going back to receive. >>>> >>>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and >>>> not >>>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising >>>> my GR >>>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was >>>> looking at >>>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a >>>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. >>>> This time >>>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had >>>> turned >>>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the >>>> logbook, >>>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD >>>> is >>>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is >>>> entering >>>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb >>>> adaptor that >>>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using >>>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP >>>> machine. >>>> >>>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be >>>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD >>>> running is >>>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. >>>> Nothing I >>>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >>>> >>>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone >>>> else >>>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they >>>> can >>>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >>>> >>>> 73, Stephen G4SJP >>>> >>>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at >>>> least >>>> once before buying the P3. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK >> [hidden email] >> http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk >> K3/100 P3 >> K2/10 >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit?
On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download >> etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! > > Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and > the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not "abuse" the K3 CAT > interface. > > No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly > as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll > every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control > program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely > that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >> Thanks Jim >> >> Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on >> receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! >> Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in HRD >> logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! >> >> 73 Stephen G4SJP >> >> >> On 07/05/2011 16:12, "JAMES ROGERS"<[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to >>> resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software I >>> have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an >>> elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would do >>> this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I >>> observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the >>> shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem to >>> say the least. >>> >>> 73s Jim, W4ATK >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >>>>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing >>>>> occasional >>>>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I >>>>> can >>>>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed >>>>> the >>>>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed >>>>> to be >>>>> apparent after going back to receive. >>>>> >>>>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, and >>>>> not >>>>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising >>>>> my GR >>>>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was >>>>> looking at >>>>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that a >>>>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. >>>>> This time >>>>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had >>>>> turned >>>>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the >>>>> logbook, >>>>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. HRD >>>>> is >>>>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is >>>>> entering >>>>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb >>>>> adaptor that >>>>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using >>>>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP >>>>> machine. >>>>> >>>>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to be >>>>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD >>>>> running is >>>>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. >>>>> Nothing I >>>>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >>>>> >>>>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether anyone >>>>> else >>>>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where they >>>>> can >>>>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >>>>> >>>>> 73, Stephen G4SJP >>>>> >>>>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at >>>>> least >>>>> once before buying the P3. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>>> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >>>> Elecraft mailing list >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>>> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >>> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK >>> [hidden email] >>> http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk >>> K3/100 P3 >>> K2/10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Joe,
I too use DX Labs suite and the issue has never returned. 73's Gary On 8 May 2011 04:00, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote: > Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit? > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > >> Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download > >> etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! > > > > Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and > > the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not "abuse" the K3 CAT > > interface. > > > > No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly > > as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll > > every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control > > program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely > > that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. > > > > 73, > > > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: > >> Thanks Jim > >> > >> Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on > >> receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! > >> Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features in > HRD > >> logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to > HRD! > >> > >> 73 Stephen G4SJP > >> > >> > >> On 07/05/2011 16:12, "JAMES ROGERS"<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able to > >>> resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based software > I > >>> have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an > >>> elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD would > do > >>> this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is when I > >>> observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the > >>> shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating problem > to > >>> say the least. > >>> > >>> 73s Jim, W4ATK > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: > >>>>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing > >>>>> occasional > >>>>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar as I > >>>>> can > >>>>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had formed > >>>>> the > >>>>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only seemed > >>>>> to be > >>>>> apparent after going back to receive. > >>>>> > >>>>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, > and > >>>>> not > >>>>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, exercising > >>>>> my GR > >>>>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was > >>>>> looking at > >>>>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence that > a > >>>>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. > >>>>> This time > >>>>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC had > >>>>> turned > >>>>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the > >>>>> logbook, > >>>>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. > HRD > >>>>> is > >>>>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is > >>>>> entering > >>>>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb > >>>>> adaptor that > >>>>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now using > >>>>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the previous XP > >>>>> machine. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but to > be > >>>>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD > >>>>> running is > >>>>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. > >>>>> Nothing I > >>>>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether > anyone > >>>>> else > >>>>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where > they > >>>>> can > >>>>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) > >>>>> > >>>>> 73, Stephen G4SJP > >>>>> > >>>>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened at > >>>>> least > >>>>> once before buying the P3. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>>> Elecraft mailing list > >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >>>>> > >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>>> > >>>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>>> Elecraft mailing list > >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >>>> > >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> > >>> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK > >>> [hidden email] > >>> http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk > >>> K3/100 P3 > >>> K2/10 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ______________________________________________________________ > >>> Elecraft mailing list > >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >>> > >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have just downloaded DXLab. I don't think I shall be bothering with HRD
anymore! In answer to Guy's question, I seem to recall that a serial port emulator I have used in the past had a buffer for HRD, but I'm a bit hazy on the detail. Thanks gents, for all the input. I'm going to take a good look at DXLab and look again at MacLogger and Rumlog for the mac. 73, Stephen On 07/05/2011 21:09, "Gary Gregory" <[hidden email]> wrote: > >Joe, > >I too use DX Labs suite and the issue has never returned. >73's >Gary > > >On 8 May 2011 04:00, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Can the HRD polling be slowed down a bit? >> >> On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Trouble is the new features in HRD logbook, such as LOTW download >> >> etc, tend to keep bringing me back to HRD! >> > >> > Try DXLab Suite ... its logbook (DXKeeper) has it all over HRD and >> > the rig control module (CI-V Commander) does not "abuse" the K3 CAT >> > interface. >> > >> > No matter how one configures HRD, it polls the transceiver as quickly >> > as it can. Watching HRD with a port snooping tool, it sends a poll >> > every time it receives data (within a millisecond). When a control >> > program hammers any rig control processor that hard it's very likely >> > that data will be garbled or the controller will become overrun. >> > >> > 73, >> > >> > ... Joe, W4TV >> > >> > >> > On 5/7/2011 11:22 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >> >> Thanks Jim >> >> >> >> Well I was pretty sure it was RF related until it happened twice on >> >> receive today when I hadn't been transmitting for quite some time! >> >> Perhaps I'll go back to MacLogger DX. Trouble is the new features >>in >> HRD >> >> logbook, such as LOTW download etc, tend to keep bringing me back to >> HRD! >> >> >> >> 73 Stephen G4SJP >> >> >> >> >> >> On 07/05/2011 16:12, "JAMES ROGERS"<[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Absolutely. I had this problem as well with HRD. I was never able >>to >> >>> resolve the issue. Since moving away from HRD to al Mac based >>software >> I >> >>> have not seen the problem again. I, for one, do not think it is an >> >>> elecraft problem either, although it is hard to imagine why HRD >>would >> do >> >>> this when returning from SSB(Voice and Data) transmit (this is >>when I >> >>> observed the problem). The consensus of support was it was RF in the >> >>> shack. But, if that is the case, why just AGC?? A frustrating >>problem >> to >> >>> say the least. >> >>> >> >>> 73s Jim, W4ATK >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 5/7/2011 10:14 AM, Stephen Prior wrote: >> >>>>> I have (and I think I reported some time ago) been experiencing >> >>>>> occasional >> >>>>> AGC misbehaviour where the AGC would suddenly turn off. Insofar >>as I >> >>>>> can >> >>>>> remember this has only happened on ssb and up until now I had >>formed >> >>>>> the >> >>>>> impression that I may have rf getting in somewhere as it only >>seemed >> >>>>> to be >> >>>>> apparent after going back to receive. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> However, three times today the AGC has without warning turned off, >> and >> >>>>> not >> >>>>> whilst transmitting. (I have been more active than normal, >>exercising >> >>>>> my GR >> >>>>> call!). On one occasion I was listening on 15m usb and as I was >> >>>>> looking at >> >>>>> the display I saw the 's' disappear it was probably coincidence >>that >> a >> >>>>> station had just started to call on the frequency, but maybe not. >> >>>>> This time >> >>>>> I have been outside cutting grass and returned to find the AGC >>had >> >>>>> turned >> >>>>> itself off again. I am running Ham Radio Deluxe, but only for the >> >>>>> logbook, >> >>>>> however that requires the main control program to be running too. >> HRD >> >>>>> is >> >>>>> constantly polling the K3 of course and perhaps a rogue command is >> >>>>> entering >> >>>>> the stream somewhere. I am using the same prolific chipped usb >> >>>>> adaptor that >> >>>>> I have successfully used for years with a variety of OS's. Now >>using >> >>>>> windows 7 64 bit. I can't remember if it happened on the >>previous XP >> >>>>> machine. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I have closed down HRD and not found the problem to re-occur, but >>to >> be >> >>>>> honest the length of time for which I have listened without HRD >> >>>>> running is >> >>>>> small by comparison and the problem is sporadic to say the least. >> >>>>> Nothing I >> >>>>> do to HRD seems to be able to force the problem. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Not Elecraft's problem I'm sure, but I am curious as to whether >> anyone >> >>>>> else >> >>>>> has noticed this issue before I venture onto the HRD forum, where >> they >> >>>>> can >> >>>>> be a little over-defensive at times :-) >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 73, Stephen G4SJP >> >>>>> >> >>>>> K3 #980 and P3, latest firmwares. I'm fairly sure this happened >>at >> >>>>> least >> >>>>> once before buying the P3. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ______________________________________________________________ >> >>>>> Elecraft mailing list >> >>>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >>>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >>>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >>>>> >> >>>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >>>>> Please help support this email list: >>http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >>>> >> >>>> ______________________________________________________________ >> >>>> Elecraft mailing list >> >>>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >>>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >>>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >>>> >> >>>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >>>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >>> >> >>> JIM ROGERS, W4ATK >> >>> [hidden email] >> >>> http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk >> >>> K3/100 P3 >> >>> K2/10 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >> >>> Elecraft mailing list >> >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >>> >> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> >> Elecraft mailing list >> >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> >> > ______________________________________________________________ >> > Elecraft mailing list >> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> > Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> > >> > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > >-- > >VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile >Elecraft Equipment >K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 >Living the dream!!! >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Has anybody experienced this with LP-Bridge inserted between the K3 and HRD? That should slow down the polling of the K3 as LP-Bridge will do the polling at its own pace and respond to HRD with data from its own database. I have never experienced any problems with AGC turning off but I am also using HRD v 4.
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This is a known issue reported before on this list. Search the
archives for some fellow sufferers. 73, Guy. On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:56 AM, ab2tc <[hidden email]> wrote: > Has anybody experienced this with LP-Bridge inserted between the K3 and HRD? > That should slow down the polling of the K3 as LP-Bridge will do the polling > at its own pace and respond to HRD with data from its own database. I have > never experienced any problems with AGC turning off but I am also using HRD > v 4. > > AB2TC - Knut > > > Stephen Prior wrote: >> >> I have just downloaded DXLab. I don't think I shall be bothering with HRD >> anymore! In answer to Guy's question, I seem to recall that a serial port >> emulator I have used in the past had a buffer for HRD, but I'm a bit hazy >> on the detail. >> >> Thanks gents, for all the input. I'm going to take a good look at DXLab >> and look again at MacLogger and Rumlog for the mac. >> >> 73, Stephen >> >> > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6347915.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: K3 and HRD turning AGC off
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I also have been having problems where the AGC suddenly shuts off while using HRD V.5 with the K3/P3 combination. It's not caused by RF because often this happens when I'm not even in the shack. I did find what seems to be a solution for me, so I thought I'd post back and hopefully help others similarly afflicted. My ah-ha moment came when I looked at the P3 manual and realized that the RS232 path to the K3 went through the P3. (Figure on p.13 of the P3 manual.) The communication between the P3 and K3 is always fixed at 38400 baud. However, the communication between the computer and P3 can be changed. My HRD to P3 link was originally set at the default of 38400 baud. I used the RS232 menu selection on the P3 to set the speed to 9600 baud and made the same corresponding change to the connection parameters in HRD on the PC. I haven't had any problems with the AGC dropping since then, and I haven't noticed any significant differnce in the functionality of HRD's ability to control/read the K3.
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The latest field-test edition of K3 firmware includes better
protection from the communications problem that causes HRD to turn off AGC periodically. I'll be happy to send it to anyone who is experiencing the problem. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Courtney Krehbiel KD6X wrote: > I also have been having problems where the AGC suddenly shuts off > while using > HRD V.5 with the K3/P3 combination. It's not caused by RF because > often > this happens when I'm not even in the shack. I did find what seems > to be a > solution for me, so I thought I'd post back and hopefully help others > similarly afflicted. My ah-ha moment came when I looked at the P3 > manual > and realized that the RS232 path to the K3 went through the P3. > (Figure on > p.13 of the P3 manual.) The communication between the P3 and K3 is > always > fixed at 38400 baud. However, the communication between the > computer and P3 > can be changed. My HRD to P3 link was originally set at the > default of > 38400 baud. I used the RS232 menu selection on the P3 to set the > speed to > 9600 baud and made the same corresponding change to the connection > parameters in HRD on the PC. I haven't had any problems with the AGC > dropping since then, and I haven't noticed any significant differnce > in the > functionality of HRD's ability to control/read the K3. > > -- Courtney KD6X > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-HRD-turning-AGC-off-tp6340160p6959674.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hi you all !
I these days due to the AGC boring problem we are suffering, due to the HRD recent history that says it's not clear when we'll have a new HRD "bugs free" release and as I own a Mac I'm testing Cocoamodem/MacLoggerDx and I may say the AGC problem disappeared. So I would thank you a lot Wayne and whole Elecraft for efforts to fix this problem but it does not come from k3 itself but it belongs to the HRD software (I think) as Joe Subich (if I'm not wrong) explained us in a previous post. Anyway, as I'll keep on working with HRD until I'll be not 100% skilled with Mac app, Wayne I'd like to have this new firmware release for my k3.....possibly. Thanks a lot for all, best 73 Giorgio IK1BXN |
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