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K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

N6SC
I have been given a Heil Pro Set Plus Headphone and want to be sure to plug it in correctly at the back of the K3 and set the configuration correctly in the radio.  The Pro set has two cables, one, a 1/8 inch mono plug and a 1/8 inch stereo plug.  Where do each of these go?  The K3 is set up with a signalink that uses the line in and line out, I have a radio shack Y-adapter plugged into the spkrs port for stereo speakers. Do I place the Heil stereo plug into the "Phones' and the mono plug into the mic/mono?  What would be the proper configuration setting for being able to listen to the external speakers, and/or headset without making any changes?

Thanks,
Ron
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

Don Wilhelm-4
Ron,

Yes, you have it right.  Check the suffix on the ProSet - if it is iC or
K2, then it has an electret element and will need bias.  AFAIK, all
others are dynamic and should not have bias turned on.  Everything
"ProSet" is not equal, there are several types, so be specific about the
one you have and we can be more clear about the bias.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/3/2012 4:27 PM, N6SC wrote:

> I have been given a Heil Pro Set Plus Headphone and want to be sure to plug
> it in correctly at the back of the K3 and set the configuration correctly in
> the radio.  The Pro set has two cables, one, a 1/8 inch mono plug and a 1/8
> inch stereo plug.  Where do each of these go?  The K3 is set up with a
> signalink that uses the line in and line out, I have a radio shack Y-adapter
> plugged into the spkrs port for stereo speakers. Do I place the Heil stereo
> plug into the "Phones' and the mono plug into the mic/mono?  What would be
> the proper configuration setting for being able to listen to the external
> speakers, and/or headset without making any changes?
>
> Thanks,
> Ron
> N6SC
>
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
Don't think there ever was a Pro Set *Plus* with the iCom element -
the "Plus" had both HC4 and IC5 elements, and a switch to select
between them. It does *not* want bias, but likes the "high" setting
(rP.H)

    ~iain / N6ML



On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Ron,
>
> Yes, you have it right.  Check the suffix on the ProSet - if it is iC or
> K2, then it has an electret element and will need bias.  AFAIK, all
> others are dynamic and should not have bias turned on.  Everything
> "ProSet" is not equal, there are several types, so be specific about the
> one you have and we can be more clear about the bias.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/3/2012 4:27 PM, N6SC wrote:
>> I have been given a Heil Pro Set Plus Headphone and want to be sure to plug
>> it in correctly at the back of the K3 and set the configuration correctly in
>> the radio.  The Pro set has two cables, one, a 1/8 inch mono plug and a 1/8
>> inch stereo plug.  Where do each of these go?  The K3 is set up with a
>> signalink that uses the line in and line out, I have a radio shack Y-adapter
>> plugged into the spkrs port for stereo speakers. Do I place the Heil stereo
>> plug into the "Phones' and the mono plug into the mic/mono?  What would be
>> the proper configuration setting for being able to listen to the external
>> speakers, and/or headset without making any changes?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ron
>> N6SC
>>
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

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I have looked on the headset on the ear phones is just says Heil Pro-set Plus! The flyer that came with the phones stated it has the HC-4 and HC-5 elements. I won't set up bias, and will place it on the "high" setting. One problem I see with the foot switch is having to plug it in to the PTT plug at the rear. That spot is taken up by the Signatronics PTT line. Could this be used with a y adapter to bring in both lines into the same port? or, would do I need to disconnet the PTT line from the Signatronics, The FT foot switch has a cable for the PTT plug, and a red cable that is supposed to go where? Any help you can give is extremely appreciated. After I get this squared away, I want to get the digital program up and running with DSLab Suite using winwarbler. Ron ronedmon@msn.com N6SC
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

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The red cable on the foot switch is for keying an amplifier and plugs into the amps PTT or relay. This allows the foot switch to key the amp ahead of the K3 on transmit. Keeps you from talking into a dead amp.

On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:21 AM, N6SC <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have looked on the headset on the ear phones is just says Heil Pro-set
> Plus! The flyer that came with the phones stated it has the HC-4 and HC-5
> elements. I won't set up bias, and will place it on the "high" setting.
>
> One problem I see with the foot switch is having to plug it in to the PTT
> plug at the rear.  That spot is taken up by the Signatronics PTT line.
> Could this be used with a y adapter to bring in both lines into the same
> port? or, would do I need to disconnet the PTT line from the Signatronics,
>
> The FT foot switch has a cable for the PTT plug, and a red cable that is
> supposed to go where?  Any help you can give is extremely appreciated.
>
>
> After I get this squared away, I want to get the digital program up and
> running with DSLab Suite using winwarbler.
>
> Ron  [hidden email]
> N6SC
>
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
So, then, this begs a question.  I have a K3 with an Ameritron AL-811H.  
I key the K3 with a Heil foot switch connected to a Heil ProSet 5.  When
I tried keying my amp off the red cable on the foot switch, I didn't get
any amp keying.  When I connected an RCA phono cable between the K3's
key out jack and the amp's relay, everything works fine and dandy.  Is
there some setting on the K3 I missed to allow the amp to key from the
foot switch instead of from the rig's TX?

Thanks and 73,

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA
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K3 #281, P3 #688


On 2/4/2012 8:59 AM, Jack Berry wrote:

> The red cable on the foot switch is for keying an amplifier and plugs into the amps PTT or relay. This allows the foot switch to key the amp ahead of the K3 on transmit. Keeps you from talking into a dead amp.
>
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:21 AM, N6SC<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> I have looked on the headset on the ear phones is just says Heil Pro-set
>> Plus! The flyer that came with the phones stated it has the HC-4 and HC-5
>> elements. I won't set up bias, and will place it on the "high" setting.
>>
>> One problem I see with the foot switch is having to plug it in to the PTT
>> plug at the rear.  That spot is taken up by the Signatronics PTT line.
>> Could this be used with a y adapter to bring in both lines into the same
>> port? or, would do I need to disconnet the PTT line from the Signatronics,
>>
>> The FT foot switch has a cable for the PTT plug, and a red cable that is
>> supposed to go where?  Any help you can give is extremely appreciated.
>>
>>
>> After I get this squared away, I want to get the digital program up and
>> running with DSLab Suite using winwarbler.
>>
>> Ron  [hidden email]
>> N6SC
>>
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Re: K3 and Heil Pro Set Plus

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2
On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Ian Kahn - Ham <[hidden email]> wrote:
> So, then, this begs a question.  I have a K3 with an Ameritron AL-811H.
> I key the K3 with a Heil foot switch connected to a Heil ProSet 5.  When
> I tried keying my amp off the red cable on the foot switch, I didn't get
> any amp keying.  When I connected an RCA phono cable between the K3's
> key out jack and the amp's relay, everything works fine and dandy.  Is
> there some setting on the K3 I missed to allow the amp to key from the
> foot switch instead of from the rig's TX?

Huh? If you have the footswitch connected directly to the amp, how do
you expect the K3 to have any control over it??

If your amp is really not keying (how are you determining this?),
perhaps the "red" switch in your footswitch is broken...

    ~iain / N6ML




> On 2/4/2012 8:59 AM, Jack Berry wrote:
>> The red cable on the foot switch is for keying an amplifier and plugs into the amps PTT or relay. This allows the foot switch to key the amp ahead of the K3 on transmit. Keeps you from talking into a dead amp.
>>
>> On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:21 AM, N6SC<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>
>>> I have looked on the headset on the ear phones is just says Heil Pro-set
>>> Plus! The flyer that came with the phones stated it has the HC-4 and HC-5
>>> elements. I won't set up bias, and will place it on the "high" setting.
>>>
>>> One problem I see with the foot switch is having to plug it in to the PTT
>>> plug at the rear.  That spot is taken up by the Signatronics PTT line.
>>> Could this be used with a y adapter to bring in both lines into the same
>>> port? or, would do I need to disconnet the PTT line from the Signatronics,
>>>
>>> The FT foot switch has a cable for the PTT plug, and a red cable that is
>>> supposed to go where?  Any help you can give is extremely appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>> After I get this squared away, I want to get the digital program up and
>>> running with DSLab Suite using winwarbler.
>>>
>>> Ron  [hidden email]
>>> N6SC
>>>
>>> --
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