K3 and N1MM; TNX for help

[DL1EK]

Many thanks for the help I received.

I don't like the idea to connect the microphone to the soundcard. So I
followed the advice of Joe, W4TV and tried it today. Perfect! I`m using
a Heil-Proset and spent some hours to record and process all the
soundpices like "CQ". Now you would hear a difference between
Heil-Proset and the computervoice.

vy 73 Karlfried, DL1EK   /   AA1EK
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Hi Karlfried
There is another approach.  Use the internal K3 digital voice recorder.  You
can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR messages.  That way the
recorded messages will sound exactly the same as the live voice as the same
microphone/settings were used for the recording.  Other benefits are that
the mike is not live and you have not introduced other paths (computer
and/or computer to rig audio path) where RF can enter.

73
Roger - G4BVY

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help

Many thanks for the help I received.

I don't like the idea to connect the microphone to the soundcard. So I
followed the advice of Joe, W4TV and tried it today. Perfect! I`m using a
Heil-Proset and spent some hours to record and process all the soundpices
like "CQ". Now you would hear a difference between Heil-Proset and the
computervoice.

vy 73 Karlfried, DL1EK   /   AA1EK
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[k6dgw]

I do this and it works absolutely great.  Put the N1MM macros in the SSB
F-key slots.  They look like {CAT1ASC K31;SWTxx;} which tells N1MM to
send "SWTxx" to K3 radio 1.  "xx" is the front panel switch number for
the Mx keys:

M1: 21
M2: 31
M3: 35
M4: 39

All this does is emulate you tapping the M button.  You can also do
SWHxx for the HOLD function.  In fact, except for ARRL Sweepstakes with
its really long exchange, all I ever need is the CQ on M1, most contest
exchanges are so short and often have a variable component I have to say
anyway that storing them is more complicated than just saying them.

One issue, not really a problem, is to be aware that N1MM sends the
macro and thinks it is done.  It has no idea how long your message[s]
is/are.  So, when setting the AutoCQ Repeat Interval, you have to add
the length of your message to the repeat delay you want.

Because N1MM evaluates macros immediately, I've been unable to get a
"toggle" between Bank 1 and Bank 2 of the K3 DVR to work right, but I've
also never needed it.

I've checked with several locals using different combinations of spoken
and recorded audio, sometimes together, and they cannot tell the
difference.  All the levels match perfectly, and there's a lot less
wiring for hum and RF to get into.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 10/11/2011 7:34 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
> Hi Karlfried
> There is another approach.  Use the internal K3 digital voice recorder.  You
> can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR messages.  That way the
> recorded messages will sound exactly the same as the live voice as the same
> microphone/settings were used for the recording.  Other benefits are that
> the mike is not live and you have not introduced other paths (computer
> and/or computer to rig audio path) where RF can enter.
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[G4BVY]

Fred
Regarding the repeat.  If you hit F1 for CQ - but send hold rather than tap
to M1 - you then use the K3's repeat function so you can set the repeat gap
directly on the K3.

Roger - G4BVY



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I do this and it works absolutely great.  Put the N1MM macros in the SSB
F-key slots.  They look like {CAT1ASC K31;SWTxx;} which tells N1MM to send
"SWTxx" to K3 radio 1.  "xx" is the front panel switch number for the Mx
keys:

M1: 21
M2: 31
M3: 35
M4: 39

All this does is emulate you tapping the M button.  You can also do SWHxx
for the HOLD function.  In fact, except for ARRL Sweepstakes with its really
long exchange, all I ever need is the CQ on M1, most contest exchanges are
so short and often have a variable component I have to say anyway that
storing them is more complicated than just saying them.

One issue, not really a problem, is to be aware that N1MM sends the macro
and thinks it is done.  It has no idea how long your message[s] is/are.  So,
when setting the AutoCQ Repeat Interval, you have to add the length of your
message to the repeat delay you want.

Because N1MM evaluates macros immediately, I've been unable to get a
"toggle" between Bank 1 and Bank 2 of the K3 DVR to work right, but I've
also never needed it.

I've checked with several locals using different combinations of spoken and
recorded audio, sometimes together, and they cannot tell the difference.
All the levels match perfectly, and there's a lot less wiring for hum and RF
to get into.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 10/11/2011 7:34 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
> Hi Karlfried
> There is another approach.  Use the internal K3 digital voice
> recorder.  You can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR
> messages.  That way the recorded messages will sound exactly the same
> as the live voice as the same microphone/settings were used for the
> recording.  Other benefits are that the mike is not live and you have
> not introduced other paths (computer and/or computer to rig audio path)
where RF can enter.
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