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Here are my K3 assembly photos.
http://wa5znu.org/2007/11/k3/assembly/ Leigh/WA5ZNU _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks for the photos, Leigh.
My e-mail client appended your name and call to the end of the URL since there wasn't a blank line separating them, so everyone beware. Dave W5DHM On Nov 20, 2007 2:36 PM, Leigh L Klotz, Jr. <[hidden email]> wrote: > Here are my K3 assembly photos. > http://wa5znu.org/2007/11/k3/assembly/ > Leigh/WA5ZNU > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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here is my 'contribution' to the assembly photos....
it is an epson site,,,, no cost , no signup , just view,,,, http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1771119&a=32611738&p=75992458 or you can go to photo.epson.com and VISIT by putting in my email address which is above in the VISIT ALBUMS box. same result bill k3 #44 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Bill NY9H wrote:
> here is my 'contribution' to the assembly photos.... > http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1771119&a=32611738&p=75992458 Fantastic! I love that you got a pic of the UPS "MIB" bringing the big white box to the door :-D -- "Nosey" Nick Waterman, VE3/G7RZQ, K2 #5209. use Std::Disclaimer; [hidden email] Boldly Going Nowhere _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Nice pics. Nice station. Hopefully the Icom will move to the side and
the K3 will take center-stage. >> here is my 'contribution' to the assembly photos.... >> http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1771119&a=32611738&p=75992458 >> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU
I have been looking at the reflector from time to time,
and was shocked to read that the 100 plus K3's that have shipped do not have many options they were supposed to have, like AM mode, FM mode, AM sync detection, a working noise blanker, the high accuricy frequency readout, the variable bandwidth filters. Did any of the K3's ever have this stuff, did it ever work on any K3 ever, and if not, why do they think they can get it to work, and if they did get it to work, how come its not on the many units that have shipped??? It does not seem right to ship radios without most of the features they were supposed to have, no other manufacturer could get away with that, or do I have it all wrong and the things listed above work great on all the new K3's? Brett N2DTS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The variable bandwidth roofing filters are a separately purchasable option,
and they're not yet available. There are a number of other roofing filters that are immediately available. I chose the 8-pole fixed bandwidth filters. The Noise Blanker seems to work fine. The Noise Reduction (NR) feature was temporarily disabled but the most recent firmware update has re-enabled it. The other features you mention are mostly firmware issues, and there is a mechanism to update K3 firmware "in the field", using a personal computer and a utility program available for free on Elecraft's web site. This radio was designed to be updated in the field. The firmware updates are provided, free of charge, through Elecraft's file server. FM mode depends on an FM filter that is scheduled to be available on 12/30, according to Elecraft's shipping status page. I didn't find any of the features you listed important enough for me to delay purchasing the radio. Elecraft's track record for supporting early adopters is awfully good. You can of course wait until the radio's feature list has settled down and everything you think important is implemented. I'm getting a lot of enjoyment from the radio as it is now, and I'm installing new firmware updates as they become available. 73 de Dick, K6KR -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brett Gazdzinski Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 2:04 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 issues.. I have been looking at the reflector from time to time, and was shocked to read that the 100 plus K3's that have shipped do not have many options they were supposed to have, like AM mode, FM mode, AM sync detection, a working noise blanker, the high accuricy frequency readout, the variable bandwidth filters. Did any of the K3's ever have this stuff, did it ever work on any K3 ever, and if not, why do they think they can get it to work, and if they did get it to work, how come its not on the many units that have shipped??? It does not seem right to ship radios without most of the features they were supposed to have, no other manufacturer could get away with that, or do I have it all wrong and the things listed above work great on all the new K3's? Brett N2DTS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brett Gazdzinski
> It does not seem right to ship radios without most of the features
> they were supposed to have, no other manufacturer could get away with that, > or do I have it all wrong and the things listed above work great on all the > new K3's? Yep, you have it all wrong. Elecraft can ship K3s with a promise to deliver those features in the future. (1) Most of the 'features' you mentioned can be implemented in software, (2) none of the 'features' you mentioned are show-stoppers as far as my K3 order is concerned, and (3) Elecraft's past history of customer support remove any doubts in my mind about ordering a K3 at this time. Mark AD5SS ps -- I see the noise blanker is back! _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My only concern w/ the K3 is I may be updating more than operating...
73 John K7FD, K3 stuck at the North Pole... ---- Mark Bayern <[hidden email]> wrote: > > It does not seem right to ship radios without most of the features > > they were supposed to have, no other manufacturer could get away with that, > > or do I have it all wrong and the things listed above work great on all the > > new K3's? > > Yep, you have it all wrong. Elecraft can ship K3s with a promise to > deliver those features in the future. > > (1) Most of the 'features' you mentioned can be implemented in > software, (2) none of the 'features' you mentioned are show-stoppers > as far as my K3 order is concerned, and (3) Elecraft's past history of > customer support remove any doubts in my mind about ordering a K3 at > this time. > > Mark AD5SS > > ps -- I see the noise blanker is back! > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brett Gazdzinski
Brett,
The only item in your list that is hardware related is the variable bandwidth filters, and it has been known from the start that these would be a delayed option. FM mode is waiting on the wider FM filter to be available. As far as modulation modes, that is all done in DSP which is firmware driven, and the K3 firmware is evolving - adding new modes and function is simply a matter of downloading new firmware, and as soon as that new function is ready, all K3 owners can take advantage of it by simply downloading the new firmware. There have been many notes on the reflector stating how painless it is to obtain new firmware. So, just like in the pasta sauce commercial - 'it' in there', it only needs the code to make it active - and that code will be coming along as soon as Lyle has opportunity to put the final touches on it and does the testing. I believe I can promise that you will not be disappointed. In the meantime, the K3 can be enjoyed for the functions and modes that it is currently programmed to handle. 73, Don W3FPR Brett Gazdzinski wrote: > I have been looking at the reflector from time to time, > and was shocked to read that the 100 plus K3's that have shipped > do not have many options they were supposed to have, like > AM mode, FM mode, AM sync detection, a working noise blanker, > the high accuricy frequency readout, the variable bandwidth filters. > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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John,
Even though you may have meant a 'tongue in cheek' response, let me provide a serious answer. I believe one can skip the updating if the new items are not of benefit to a particular operator. I have not kept count, but it seems to me that there has been about 1 update per week, and the updates do not take a considerable amount of time to load - so by my guess you could lose about 15 minutes of *potential* operating time per week if every update is loaded. I have faith that the rate of updates will settle down as time goes on. In its infancy, the K2 had many updates too, it seemed that there was a never-ending queue of mods and firmware changes as the customer base grew and those customers though of other neat things that could be done to make the K2 better. These were real hardware changes - even updating the firmware required physically changing the firmware IC - fortunately, the K3 can be updated without even opening the covers. 73, Don W3FPR [hidden email] wrote: > My only concern w/ the K3 is I may be updating more than operating... > > 73 John K7FD, K3 stuck at the North Pole... > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4
Well, I am primarly an AM operator, and a new K3
would not even receive AM, and NOT A THING was said about all the stuff that does not work yet, why it is not working, has it ever worked, and how long is it going to be before everything the web page says the K3 will do, it can actualy do? I cant say I am interested in FM, and since the filters are not avalable, I can understand why the FM would not work, but what has that got to do with AM and the other things? Dont people have a right to know about the missing features/modes and when they might actualy work? I directly asked how the AM reception was, and I got an answer it sounds great even on SSB, which may be the only way anyone ever listened to AM on the K3 for all I know. If I KNEW there were going to be so many features that dont work, there would have been no reason to sell my K2 and put a dpeosit down to get an early K3. There WAS a lot of talk about Elecraft not wanting to ship the K3 before it was ready, well, it dont seem like its ready.... I cancelled my K3 order on 11-26-2007 and got a response from Lisa, but got an invoice today, and not a word about getting my deposit back. I still plan on getting a K3, when all the basic features are working and I can get one real time. I have received plenty of mail off list, some nasty, some people were disapointed with the missing features, some complaining about my spelling (sorry). Brett N2DTS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> To: "Brett Gazdzinski" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 issues.. > Brett, > > The only item in your list that is hardware related is the variable > bandwidth filters, and it has been known from the start that these would > be a delayed option. FM mode is waiting on the wider FM filter to be > available. > > As far as modulation modes, that is all done in DSP which is firmware > driven, and the K3 firmware is evolving - adding new modes and function > is simply a matter of downloading new firmware, and as soon as that new > function is ready, all K3 owners can take advantage of it by simply > downloading the new firmware. There have been many notes on the > reflector stating how painless it is to obtain new firmware. > > So, just like in the pasta sauce commercial - 'it' in there', it only > needs the code to make it active - and that code will be coming along as > soon as Lyle has opportunity to put the final touches on it and does the > testing. I believe I can promise that you will not be disappointed. In > the meantime, the K3 can be enjoyed for the functions and modes that it > is currently programmed to handle. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Brett Gazdzinski wrote: > > I have been looking at the reflector from time to time, > > and was shocked to read that the 100 plus K3's that have shipped > > do not have many options they were supposed to have, like > > AM mode, FM mode, AM sync detection, a working noise blanker, > > the high accuricy frequency readout, the variable bandwidth filters. > > > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brett Gazdzinski
In a message dated 12/3/2007 2:04:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
[hidden email] writes: I have been looking at the reflector from time to time, and was shocked to read that the 100 plus K3's that have shipped do not have many options they were supposed to have, like AM mode, FM mode, AM sync detection, a working noise blanker, the high accuricy frequency readout, the variable bandwidth filters. Did any of the K3's ever have this stuff, did it ever work on any K3 ever, and if not, why do they think they can get it to work, and if they did get it to work, how come its not on the many units that have shipped??? It does not seem right to ship radios without most of the features they were supposed to have, no other manufacturer could get away with that, or do I have it all wrong and the things listed above work great on all the new K3's? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Having had the pleasure of operating my K3 in at least two of the last three major contests, I am so glad to have the rig in my shack, I could only express disappointment had I to wait even another month for it. I can listen to AM quite well for now. The accuricy[sic] of frequency does not lack for precision(1Hz) and accuracy is only limited by the reference source (available since the start of shipment). (Why is accuracy so important with an AM signal that can be easily zerobeat anyway?) The noise blanker is highly effective on the type of noise that can be blanked and is extremely adjustable. It'll still be a while before conditions make 10M FM fun again. I'll be pleased when the AM is fully implemented, although I probably won't care to use it as a transmit mode - mainly SWL there. I am also happy with Elecraft's announcing the rig well in advance, so I didn't waste my time or money with something else. The variable bandwidth filters were not announced until well after the K-3 was announced and made available to purchase. As far as low serial numbers are concerned, if I was worried about that I'd have kept the 1967 AC Cobra I had instead of selling it to finance a college education. AC Cobra $250,000, College education $priceless.. Having passed up years of hamming to focus on family and career, I would have bought the K3 with only a promise of ssb just to get on the air again. Maybe age has something to do with it or maybe just being the first kid on the block thing. I've had more fun with this rig than the last 4 I've had. It makes retirement fun while I can still have fun and I've pretty well debunked that a weak sunspot cycle is grounds for not working dx. But what really intrigues me is this: There has never been a rig available, save the K2, with the potential for the future. So many features that can be implemented by a firmware change - that doesn't require hardware changes, So many possibilities to add features with a hardware plug in! Let's get REAL - This radio NEVER will be finished, it will just keep getting better. Wouldn't it be great if our bodies were so well endowed. I guess I'm a sucker for buying a glass of water that was only half full. Some will always be half empty, sorry! 73 es my best to all, Al WA6VNN **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In reply to this post by Brett Gazdzinski
Hello Brett,
"... and I can get one real time" ... I suspect you'll be waiting quite a long while .... I knew there were things about the radio waiting in the wings. It's of little matter ... to most of us. As someone else has said ... it's likely not to ever be "finished". Hey, getting "new" features is kinda exciting. One buys a FT/TS/IC and you gets what you get with no way to improve it without buying a new box. Look at the K2 and all the upgrades over the years. The 1st K2 can be made equal to today's. The K3 will be the same. 73! Ken K0PP [hidden email] or [hidden email] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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