I'd like to understand more about the use of the
buttons M1 through M4, as they apply to memory recall within a given band. The best way for Elecraft to show off this radio's bazillion functions is to create a meta-tagged MPEG4 video of someone (Wayne?) going through each function of the entire rig. With such a searchable file, I could simply click for what I wanted to see, instead of having to watch an entire 40 minute 3 GB tutorial. This demo video would help sell the second thousand of these radios. Back to the M1 - M4 buttons ... For them to be effectively used as "band stack registers" they would have to perform that function without a two-tap modality; in other words, this action would best not happen with a press-and-hold, multiple tap, or as an 'F' type process. Just looking at the rig, I can't tell if that's how these buttons work. It seems like they are there for voice and CW keyer functions, not for memory recall. How does the radio know that pressing M3 means "go to the 3rd memory for this band" rather than "play the voice message #3" or "send the CW message #3" ?? ... *all* of which ought to be one-press functions. Tough to do this well with what I see on the front panel. I'm not given to K4VUD's acerbicity, but if you read deeper into what he's saying, it's based on a sincere interest and rooted in this concern. The ultimate use scenario matrix for the K3 front panel remains quite attractive. For example, one generally uses band stacking registers AFTER one is already "on" the band. As I attempt to think how the designer was thinking, the arrival at this particular design decision has to have been at least partly based on this ergonometric fact. (I've talked to the guy enough to find that he's pretty bright.) Yes, it would be nice to just hit the 40m button to get there and then tap it again to move between frequencies on that band. An hour up at HRO in Sunnyvale playing with a PROIII front panel would have convinced me of that. But I'd gladly go through the K3's 'other' band select mechanism(s) if I knew that once I was there, the M1 - M4 buttons worked the way I want them to. Because my time with the K2 at Dayton was limited, I was unable to self-teach on the topic. This lack of understanding of this keypad operation is one of the very few remaining barriers to ordering a K3 for myself. Again, a tagged digital feature-walk-through video would be immensely useful. This keypad operation is more than an academic interest to me. Since control panel ergonomics and ultra high dynamic range mixers are my two radio passions, the K3 could be a true pinnacle of design reference in my own experience. I already know how much engineering went into the BUTTONS themselves!! You would not believe the details these guys sweated over. Of course, the K3 being a firmware driven animal, whatever the operational differences between what I'd like and what's there now, the fact that numerically sufficient and labeled buttons exist in real-space is all that really matters. The firmware engineer will be able to make it do what it needs to do. Finally, even if that fails, there's an external control system which would allow ME to build a MCU-equipped external keypad. This keypad would create the band-stack register functionality that the radio itself might lack, by sending the suitable commands to the radio's control input. If Elecraft doesn't make the rig work the way I want it to, which I do NOT expect, I will simply build this external keypad gizmo and sell copies (as kits, of course) to others who are looking for the same thing I am. gee. Profits from the sale of this gizmo could pay for the radio! 73 Steve KZ1X/4 Chapel Hill ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Steve Jackson wrote:
>Yes, it would be nice to just hit the 40m button to >get there and then tap it again to move between >frequencies on that band. An hour up at HRO in >Sunnyvale playing with a PROIII front panel would have >convinced me of that. > I used to agree with that - that having "Band Buttons" to press to change bands was the only way to go. And maybe 20 years ago it was - Band Buttons or Bandswitch. And I thought that was going to be a major problem that I would have with the K2. But it was not a problem. Why? Because 90% of my band or frequency changes come from the laptop or PC. Type the frequency where I want to go. Click on the DX spot. Go Band Up or Band Down from the function keys. Maybe it's a workaround for not having "Band Buttons", but I don't miss not having them on the K2 and won't miss having them on the K3. 73 Hank K8DD -- --- 'Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.' -anon --- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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