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alsopb

K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a "bug" mode for CW might try this-- at your own risk.

Single lever paddles only.
1) connect paddle dit side to the keyer jack dit side
2) connect paddle dash side to key jack
3) ground to paddle common.

Dual lever paddles can short 1) and 2) together and shouldn't be used without some kind of isolation.

73 de K3KO

WILLIS COOKE

Re: K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

For those who want the bug mode, plug your bug into the key jack, select the cw mode and get with it. It works for me!

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
K5EWJ

--- On Tue, 9/9/08, alsopb <[hidden email]> wrote:

> From: alsopb <[hidden email]>
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
> To: [hidden email]
> Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 3:08 PM
> Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a "bug"
> mode for CW might try
> this-- at your own risk.

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Alan Bloom

Re: K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

In reply to this post by alsopb

When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very different
feel than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it
basically impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV

Al N1AL

On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 15:08, alsopb wrote:

> Those who absolutely want to use the K3 in a "bug" mode for CW might try
> this-- at your own risk.
>
> Single lever paddles only.
> 1) connect paddle dit side to the keyer jack dit side
> 2) connect paddle dash side to key jack
> 3) ground to paddle common.
>
> Dual lever paddles can short 1) and 2) together and shouldn't be used
> without some kind of isolation.
>
> 73 de K3KO

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Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO

Re: K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

Maybe I'm missing something here, but this all kinda reminds of
that old saw about a duck... You know, "If it walks like a duck
and quacks like a duck..."

If you want a key that works like a bug, feels like a bug, and
sounds like a bug... Why not just get a bug? There are lots of
them out there, both antique and brand-spankin' new, like the
Vibroplex line still in production today after more than a century
(http://vibroplex.com/original_bug.html).

I used a Vibroplex standard model bug from the time I was 13 years
old and passed my Extra-class 20 WPM sending test at the FCC in
1977 using one, but today I really like my Kent paddle and
Elecraft B-mode iambic keyer. One of the coolest things about my
old bug was just the way it looked, so if I ever wanted to go back
to a bug... I'd just go back to a bug. :-)

Bill W5WVO

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
To: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

> Sounds like a market for paddles with adjustable tactile
feedback, like some
> of the high end game controllers.
>
> Give us Hams a chance and we'll replace a $100 bug with a $400
simulator
> that is almost as good, Hi!
>
> I agree that the bug feel is gone, but I can send okay on
paddles emulating
> a bug. It's very useful to me working portable where I don't
want to carry
> my bug.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very
different feel
> than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it
basically

> impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV
>
> Al N1AL
>
>
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Alan Bloom

Re: K3 bug mode there (sort of)?

In reply to this post by Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO

Although I'm right-handed, I originally learned on a left-handed bug
because that's what my college roommate had. To this day I can send
with either hand with either a bug or keyer. A rare ability, if only I
could find a practical use for it!

On my operating desk I have a J-38 straight key, a T. R. McElroy bug,
and a Viroplex single-lever keyer paddle. Plus I have a homebrew
lightweight paddle < http://www.cds1.net/~n1al/ham/paddle.htm >
connected to the QRP rig.

Elecraft content: It's nice that the K3 has separate inputs for key and
key paddle so I can instantly switch between them.

Al N1AL

On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 11:09, Bill W5WVO wrote:

> Maybe I'm missing something here, but this all kinda reminds of
> that old saw about a duck... You know, "If it walks like a duck
> and quacks like a duck..."
>
> If you want a key that works like a bug, feels like a bug, and
> sounds like a bug... Why not just get a bug? There are lots of
> them out there, both antique and brand-spankin' new, like the
> Vibroplex line still in production today after more than a century
> (http://vibroplex.com/original_bug.html).
>
> I used a Vibroplex standard model bug from the time I was 13 years
> old and passed my Extra-class 20 WPM sending test at the FCC in
> 1977 using one, but today I really like my Kent paddle and
> Elecraft B-mode iambic keyer. One of the coolest things about my
> old bug was just the way it looked, so if I ever wanted to go back
> to a bug... I'd just go back to a bug. :-)
>
> Bill W5WVO
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <[hidden email]>
> To: <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 bug mode there (sort of)?
>
>
> > Sounds like a market for paddles with adjustable tactile
> feedback, like some
> > of the high end game controllers.
> >
> > Give us Hams a chance and we'll replace a $100 bug with a $400
> simulator
> > that is almost as good, Hi!
> >
> > I agree that the bug feel is gone, but I can send okay on
> paddles emulating
> > a bug. It's very useful to me working portable where I don't
> want to carry
> > my bug.
> >
> > Ron AC7AC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > When I've tried this in the past I found that it has a very
> different feel
> > than a mechanical semi-automatic key paddle (bug). I found it
> basically
> > impossible to send good-sounding code. YMMV
> >
> > Al N1AL
> >
> >
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