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M0XDF

Re: K3 Special Split Operation

I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
KRX3 becomes available.

On 03/03/2008 17:38, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:

> What about the people who don't buy the second RX? And even still its only
> an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
> second RX. Wouldn't you agree?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
> To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
> Cc: Crafters
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>
> Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
> little, before asking for Split mods?
>
>
> On 03/03/2008 11:01, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[hidden email]>
> sent:
>
>> If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split in
>> the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
>> select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
> MHz
>>
>> Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you stay
>> here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry on
>> with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
>> frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
> to
>> stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085. If
>> Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would be
>> some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
> a
>> front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
> changing
>> bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
>> entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
> the
>> 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when using
>> Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
>>
>> .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
>>
>> 73,
>> Geoff
>> GM4ESD
>>
>>
>> Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
>> 4:14 AM
>>
>>> Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
>>>
>>> How about the possibility of a special single band split mode. After
>>> doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
>>> mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
>>> the same band.
>>>
>>> So if you want to work split and the DX station says <my_call> listening
>>> on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode. Then you
>>> could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
>>> and be ready to rock and roll. Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
>>> the end could save you a bit of time. There are times where its
>>> something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
>>> knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
>>>
>>> Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
>>> freq ent seems reasonable. Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
>>> button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
>>> make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
>>>
>>> Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
>>> to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
>>> my TS-450Sat.
>>>
>>> Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
>>>
>>> ~Brett (KC7OTG)
>>
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Brett Howard

RE: K3 Special Split Operation

Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure out
what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own. Now granted this
has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you ask
him he'd much rather have input on ideas.

Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
Cc: Crafters
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
KRX3 becomes available.

On 03/03/2008 17:38, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:

> What about the people who don't buy the second RX? And even still its
only

> an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
> second RX. Wouldn't you agree?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
> To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
> Cc: Crafters
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>
> Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
> little, before asking for Split mods?
>
>
> On 03/03/2008 11:01, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[hidden email]>
> sent:
>
>> If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split

in
>> the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
>> select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
> MHz
>>
>> Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
stay
>> here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
on
>> with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
>> frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
> to
>> stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085. If
>> Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
be
>> some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
> a
>> front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
> changing
>> bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
>> entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
> the
>> 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
using

>> Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
>>
>> .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
>>
>> 73,
>> Geoff
>> GM4ESD
>>
>>
>> Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
>> 4:14 AM
>>
>>> Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
>>>
>>> How about the possibility of a special single band split mode. After
>>> doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
>>> mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
>>> the same band.
>>>
>>> So if you want to work split and the DX station says <my_call> listening
>>> on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode. Then you
>>> could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
>>> and be ready to rock and roll. Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
>>> the end could save you a bit of time. There are times where its
>>> something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
>>> knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
>>>
>>> Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
>>> freq ent seems reasonable. Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
>>> button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
>>> make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
>>>
>>> Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
>>> to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
>>> my TS-450Sat.
>>>
>>> Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
>>>
>>> ~Brett (KC7OTG)
>>
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M0XDF

Re: K3 Special Split Operation

sorry, I wasn't suggesting we don't ask, but I'd like to get the current
outstanding items before I give him much more to think about :)

On 03/03/2008 19:15, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:

> Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure out
> what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own. Now granted this
> has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you ask
> him he'd much rather have input on ideas.
>
> Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
> To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
> Cc: Crafters
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>
> I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
> KRX3 becomes available.
>
>
> On 03/03/2008 17:38, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:
>
>> What about the people who don't buy the second RX? And even still its
> only
>> an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of the
>> second RX. Wouldn't you agree?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
>> To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
>> Cc: Crafters
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>>
>> Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
>> little, before asking for Split mods?
>>
>>
>> On 03/03/2008 11:01, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[hidden email]>
>> sent:
>>
>>> If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split
> in
>>> the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the band
>>> select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
>> MHz
>>>
>>> Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
> stay
>>> here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
> on
>>> with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
>>> frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
>> to
>>> stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085. If
>>> Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
> be
>>> some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not necessarily
>> a
>>> front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
>> changing
>>> bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
>>> entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
>> the
>>> 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
> using
>>> Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split mode.
>>>
>>> .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Geoff
>>> GM4ESD
>>>
>>>
>>> Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008 at
>>> 4:14 AM
>>>
>>>> Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
>>>>
>>>> How about the possibility of a special single band split mode. After
>>>> doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
>>>> mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
>>>> the same band.
>>>>
>>>> So if you want to work split and the DX station says <my_call> listening
>>>> on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode. Then you
>>>> could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop back
>>>> and be ready to rock and roll. Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
>>>> the end could save you a bit of time. There are times where its
>>>> something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the RIT/XIT
>>>> knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
>>>> freq ent seems reasonable. Would be nice if you could skip the freq ent
>>>> button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
>>>> make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm having
>>>> to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
>>>> my TS-450Sat.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
>>>>
>>>> ~Brett (KC7OTG)
>>>
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Brett Howard

RE: K3 Special Split Operation

This is why they have software management tools. He's not having to fret
over remembering every feature and bug fix request. If he was he'd have
jumped off a bridge long ago! From what I understand there is a full
software development management environment in place which is probably part
of the reason why bugs can at times poke their heads back up... I've done
that before where I check out the wrong version of a certain file and oops
here comes back a bug. But those types of things are usually pretty easy to
correct with a good source management tool.

Anyway... Don't worry too much about giving the things to worry about... I
think us all sitting quietly and waiting would REALLY freak out the guys at
Elecraft... The wouldn't know what to do with themselves if we were actually
behaved! HIHI

~Brett (KC7OTG)

-----Original Message-----
From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:20 AM
To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
Cc: Crafters
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation

sorry, I wasn't suggesting we don't ask, but I'd like to get the current
outstanding items before I give him much more to think about :)

On 03/03/2008 19:15, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:

> Well if we don't think of ideas or even ask then its on Wayne to figure
out
> what is wanted or needed for every feature all on his own. Now granted
this
> has worked VERY well for us Elecrafters in the past but I'm sure if you
ask

> him he'd much rather have input on ideas.
>
> Just my opinion.. But maybe I'm all wet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:42 AM
> To: Brett Howard; 'Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy'
> Cc: Crafters
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>
> I was thinking that we don't know what changes in F/W may arrive when the
> KRX3 becomes available.
>
>
> On 03/03/2008 17:38, "Brett Howard" <[hidden email]> sent:
>
>> What about the people who don't buy the second RX? And even still its
> only
>> an idea to save time and would save time in the presence or absence of

the

>> second RX. Wouldn't you agree?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 3:28 AM
>> To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy; Brett Howard
>> Cc: Crafters
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Special Split Operation
>>
>> Perhaps we should wait for the KRX3 to be available and then use it a
>> little, before asking for Split mods?
>>
>>
>> On 03/03/2008 11:01, "Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy" <[hidden email]>
>> sent:
>>
>>> If Crossband Split mode is not an available feature, when working Split
> in
>>> the same band, and using your example, I would have thought that the

band

>>> select control system could be used to tell the K3 that 225 means 7.225
>> MHz
>>>
>>> Sorry I don't know if the K3 can operate in Crossband Split mode (you
> stay
>>> here on 14.xxx and I'll call you on 50.xxx), but if it can and to carry
> on
>>> with your example, if the existing system wants all of the numbers when
>>> frequencies are entered (7.085 and 7.225), you would have to tell the K3
>> to
>>> stay on the same band when entering just 225 after entering 7.085. If
>>> Crossband Split is available then I would have thought that there would
> be
>>> some form of 'Same Band Split - Crossband Split' control, not

necessarily
>> a
>>> front panel control, which could be used just once to do that until
>> changing
>>> bands or going into Crossband Split mode. If that is true then after
>>> entering 7.085 for the first time it might also be possible to leave out
>> the
>>> 7 when entering the frequency for either of the VFOs thereafter when
> using
>>> Same Band Split, until changing bands or going into Crossband Split
mode.
>>>
>>> .Anything to save time during a pileup is a very good idea IMHO :-)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Geoff
>>> GM4ESD
>>>
>>>
>>> Brett Howard <[hidden email]> wrote on Monday, March 03, 2008
at

>>> 4:14 AM
>>>
>>>> Lets see if anyone has any opinions on this:
>>>>
>>>> How about the possibility of a special single band split mode. After
>>>> doing a bit of playing on this latest contest I saw possible value in a
>>>> mode where direct entry automatically assumes you're going to stay on
>>>> the same band.
>>>>
>>>> So if you want to work split and the DX station says <my_call>

listening
>>>> on 225 and you're on 7.085 and you're in this special mode. Then you
>>>> could just switch to the other VFO and press enter 225 and then pop
back
>>>> and be ready to rock and roll. Not having to enter the 7 or the 00 at
>>>> the end could save you a bit of time. There are times where its
>>>> something like 7.225.5 and for that one could possibly setup the
RIT/XIT
>>>> knob to be able to pull that off in one detent.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure what button I'd implement this on but something in the area of
>>>> freq ent seems reasonable. Would be nice if you could skip the freq
ent
>>>> button in this mode too as that would make times even faster but would
>>>> make operation of the rest of the rig a bit of an annoyance.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry if my operation is a bit vague but I don't have a K3 so I'm
having

>>>> to go just off of what I've read in the manual and of the operation of
>>>> my TS-450Sat.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much for your insights gentlemen.
>>>>
>>>> ~Brett (KC7OTG)
>>>
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