K3 freqs query

[wayne burdick]

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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

We will be providing K3's programmed for specific markets (such as
Thailand) with TX limitations when required. In the U.S. though, I
believe there are no FCC TX limits under part 97. As a matter of policy
though we do block 100w transmit in the U.S. CB band.

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[David Woolley (E.L)]

Julian G4ILO wrote:

> Why not leave it up to the operator to know where the band edges are,
> as did analogue radios of yore? Do hams really need a digital nanny to

I believe the UK still forbids the import of equipment capable of
putting out illegal powers/modes in the 27MHz CB region.  I think they
require CE certification on complete products, although possibly only
for ones that are actually traded in the UK.

> remind them where the bands start and end? These limits only cause
> frustration when the band allocations change (as did 40m a couple of
> years ago here) or when you take the radio to operate abroad, or when

The UK CEPT conditions require you to work within the intersection of
the UK and foreign frequency limits.  That was also true of the US
reciprocal terms before they went CEPT, so I suspect it is true of many
reciprocal licences.  I.e., must UK licence holders, operating abroad,
cannot take advantage of extended transmit frequency ranges.

Obviously, if you have a non-reciprocal licence from the destination
country, you won't be restricted by the UK licence.

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[Mark Bayern]

You should at the UAE to the list.

I showed up in Dubai at about 1AM with an HT in my carryone.  BIG MISTAKE!

After a lengthy time with the customs and the local police, they held
the HT and let me enter.

I managed to get the HT back as I left -- the customs officer watched
me place it in my checked baggage and watched it go down the conveyor
out of my reach.

He also was the first one who was willing to admit to speaking enough
English to converse with me. I asked what is the problem with the
radio? His answer, "some of them can receive the police frequencies,
and cell phone frequencies".  I admitted, that yes it probably could
receive the police stuff.  I got a laugh when I told him, "but I
wouldn't understand any of it". I carefully didn't tell him that the
thing would also transmit on those frequencies.

I shouldn't have brought the thing with me. The trip was one of those
very hurried and unplanned service calls in the oil industry. I tried
looking for licensing info in the UAE but didn't find any ... figuring
that the country was so open in other ways I decided to take the HT
with me and check on the licensing issue when I arrived. The thing is
also handy for monitoring the VHF marine channels and VHF/UHF business
band stuff that we use on board an oil-rig.

...anyway... The UAE doesn't appear to allow foreigners to operate
Amateur radio, and it REALLY doesn't want anything that looks like a
VHF HT in the country.

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Another country that asks on entry about radio transmitters is
mainland China a/k/a The Peoples Republic of China. I have never taken
anything in and never asked if I could ... I just know their entry
form asks the question, and sometimes the customs officer asks.

Mark AD5SS



On 6/5/07, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There may be a difference between importing and register of a transmitter in
> any one country or another and just passing thru with it.
>
> I have taken my IC 706 thru several countries where it may or may not be
> allowed but separate it into 2 parts and move on thru the airports to
> another destination.  Staying somewhere with it is another matter for
> individual discretion, of course.
>
> Countries I know about with limits on carrying transmitters into their
> borders....
> Thailand
> Burma
> Lao (Laos)
> Cambodia
> India
> Bhutan
> Nepal
>
> just to name a few.
>
> Why are nations nervious abt xmitters in private hands?  Well, fighters in
> Burma are reported to use ham rigs for military traffic.  Certainly, the ham
> bands in SEAsia are cluttered with non-licensed operations using ham rigs
> for private telephone-like use.  Sometimes more of that on 20m more than
> licensed ham uses!  At least they use the "other" sideband.
>
> 73
> Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW (VU3CHE, A52UD, XW1UD, 9N7UD, V26V,  ETC.)
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[peter gerba]

Hi Mark;

The radio of choice for setting off bad road-side stuff in the Mid East are
Icom HTs.

The bad guys have moved away from using cell phones.



pete kn6bi



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] foreign travel with radios


You should at the UAE to the list.

I showed up in Dubai at about 1AM with an HT in my carryone.  BIG MISTAKE!

After a lengthy time with the customs and the local police, they held
the HT and let me enter.

I managed to get the HT back as I left -- the customs officer watched
me place it in my checked baggage and watched it go down the conveyor
out of my reach.

He also was the first one who was willing to admit to speaking enough
English to converse with me. I asked what is the problem with the
radio? His answer, "some of them can receive the police frequencies,
and cell phone frequencies".  I admitted, that yes it probably could
receive the police stuff.  I got a laugh when I told him, "but I
wouldn't understand any of it". I carefully didn't tell him that the
thing would also transmit on those frequencies.

I shouldn't have brought the thing with me. The trip was one of those
very hurried and unplanned service calls in the oil industry. I tried
looking for licensing info in the UAE but didn't find any ... figuring
that the country was so open in other ways I decided to take the HT
with me and check on the licensing issue when I arrived. The thing is
also handy for monitoring the VHF marine channels and VHF/UHF business
band stuff that we use on board an oil-rig.

...anyway... The UAE doesn't appear to allow foreigners to operate
Amateur radio, and it REALLY doesn't want anything that looks like a
VHF HT in the country.

----

Another country that asks on entry about radio transmitters is
mainland China a/k/a The Peoples Republic of China. I have never taken
anything in and never asked if I could ... I just know their entry
form asks the question, and sometimes the customs officer asks.

Mark AD5SS



On 6/5/07, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote:
> There may be a difference between importing and register of a transmitter
in

> any one country or another and just passing thru with it.
>
> I have taken my IC 706 thru several countries where it may or may not be
> allowed but separate it into 2 parts and move on thru the airports to
> another destination.  Staying somewhere with it is another matter for
> individual discretion, of course.
>
> Countries I know about with limits on carrying transmitters into their
> borders....
> Thailand
> Burma
> Lao (Laos)
> Cambodia
> India
> Bhutan
> Nepal
>
> just to name a few.
>
> Why are nations nervious abt xmitters in private hands?  Well, fighters in
> Burma are reported to use ham rigs for military traffic.  Certainly, the

ham

> bands in SEAsia are cluttered with non-licensed operations using ham rigs
> for private telephone-like use.  Sometimes more of that on 20m more than
> licensed ham uses!  At least they use the "other" sideband.
>
> 73
> Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW (VU3CHE, A52UD, XW1UD, 9N7UD, V26V,  ETC.)
> [hidden email]
>
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> Don't miss your chance to WIN $10,000 and other great prizes from

Microsoft

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[Vic K2VCO]

peter gerba wrote:

> The radio of choice for setting off bad road-side stuff in the Mid East are
> Icom HTs.
>
> The bad guys have moved away from using cell phones.

We should equip our Humvees with IC706's. Then they could just transmit
on any frequency and the phase noise would set off all the IEDs up and
down the road.
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Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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