K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

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K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

raroth7
Hi Folks--

I finally got to reading parts of the Owner's Manual and tried to set up
the rig to monitor my mic audio while in Test Mode.  I can't get either
front panel Heil HM-Pro or rear panel Heil Proset 5 to pass audio.  I
made sure I wasn't in Split and that the mode (USB) made sense.
Regardless of whether I'm set MAIN:FP or MAIN:rP.

Any ideas where to start first?

ttfn &
--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

dave.wilburn
Couple of questions;
What is your monitor setting?
What firmware release?
Does the speaker work?
Sidetone in CW?
Did you config the speaker on?


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

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never know."


Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:

> Hi Folks--
>
> I finally got to reading parts of the Owner's Manual and tried to set up
> the rig to monitor my mic audio while in Test Mode.  I can't get either
> front panel Heil HM-Pro or rear panel Heil Proset 5 to pass audio.  I
> made sure I wasn't in Split and that the mode (USB) made sense.
> Regardless of whether I'm set MAIN:FP or MAIN:rP.
>
> Any ideas where to start first?
>
> ttfn &
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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

raroth7
David Wilburn wrote:

> Couple of questions;
> What is your monitor setting?
> What firmware release?
> Does the speaker work?
> Sidetone in CW?
> Did you config the speaker on?
>
>
> Dave Wilburn
> K4DGW
> K2/100 - S/N 5982
> K3/100 - S/N 766
>
> "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will
> never know."
>
>
> Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
>> Hi Folks--
>>
>> I finally got to reading parts of the Owner's Manual and tried to set
>> up the rig to monitor my mic audio while in Test Mode.  I can't get
>> either front panel Heil HM-Pro or rear panel Heil Proset 5 to pass
>> audio.  I made sure I wasn't in Split and that the mode (USB) made
>> sense. Regardless of whether I'm set MAIN:FP or MAIN:rP.
>>
>> Any ideas where to start first?
>>
>> ttfn &
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The rig is running the latest production firmware.  No problem with RX
audio, using either speaker or phones. Yes, there's sidetone on CW.

I am seeing no deflection of compression or ALC meters.  Doesn't seem
like the radio is hearing the mics.

Dick


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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

raroth7
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Gary Hvizdak wrote:

> Dick,
>
>  
>
>     A curious question … are you using a Heil manufactured adaptor
> cable, and if so, which one?  Kenwood, Icom, Yeasu/Ten-Tec, other?
>
>  
>
> Gary  KI4GGX
>
>  
>
> P.S.  TTFN?
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  
>
> *Dick Roth KA1OZ*
> /Fri May 16 23:29:35 EDT 2008/
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hi Folks--
>
>  
>
> I finally got to reading parts of the Owner's Manual and tried to set up
>
> the rig to monitor my mic audio while in Test Mode.  I can't get either
>
> front panel Heil HM-Pro or rear panel Heil Proset 5 to pass audio.  I
>
> made sure I wasn't in Split and that the mode (USB) made sense.
>
> Regardless of whether I'm set MAIN:FP or MAIN:rP.
>
>  
>
> Any ideas where to start first?
>
>  
>
> ttfn &
>
> --
>
> 73,
>
> Dick ka1oz
>
> Middleborough, MA
>
>  
>
> K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
>
>  
>

Ah Ha!!!  I found my problem!  The mics were set for low impedance
rather than high.  I made the adjustment and I'm now modulating.
However, I find that my Heil phones really can't hear a monitor signal.
  I can begin to hear myself if I crank up the compress to maximum
smoke...likewise the mic gain.

But bottom line is that I'm out of the woods and have a working radio.

Thanks for offering help to all.

Have a good night...

ttfn &

--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)

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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

raroth7
Ken Kopp wrote:

> Hello Dick,
>  
> Just a thought .....
>  
> The MON function also has a gain control to
> the monitor level.  Push in the CMP / PWR
> knob and adjust the level ... 0 -> 40.
>  
> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
>        [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>  

Wow!  It never occurred to me to keep it pushed in.  And I couldn't
figure out whether to use Pwr or Cmp...doh!!!!



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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

M0XDF
It's a TAP or HOLD switch (all four of those knobs there do that) and  
in this case you should be HOLDing it - just long enough until both  
CMP & PWR leds go out. You don't have to hold it while you turn (as  
opposed to some of the filter functionality introduced later where you  
HOLD & TURN at the same time).
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 17 May 2008, at 06:22, Dick Roth wrote:

> Ken Kopp wrote:
>> Hello Dick,
>> Just a thought .....
>> The MON function also has a gain control to
>> the monitor level.  Push in the CMP / PWR
>> knob and adjust the level ... 0 -> 40.
>> 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
>>       [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
>>
>
> Wow!  It never occurred to me to keep it pushed in.  And I couldn't  
> figure out whether to use Pwr or Cmp...doh!!!!

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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

raroth7
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> It's a TAP or HOLD switch (all four of those knobs there do that) and in
> this case you should be HOLDing it - just long enough until both CMP &
> PWR leds go out. You don't have to hold it while you turn (as opposed to
> some of the filter functionality introduced later where you HOLD & TURN
> at the same time).
> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174

David, there's so much to learn about this rig!  The last hf rig I owned
was a National NCX-3.  Three bands and two bandwidths (CW & SSB).  Plain
and simple (of course one had to tune the radio (dip the plate, increase
the drive, etc.).

Thanks for the pointer.

--
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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Re: K3 has no TX audio...any ideas?

dave.wilburn
Did you stay up all night playing with it???  ;)


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

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Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:

> David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
>> It's a TAP or HOLD switch (all four of those knobs there do that) and
>> in this case you should be HOLDing it - just long enough until both
>> CMP & PWR leds go out. You don't have to hold it while you turn (as
>> opposed to some of the filter functionality introduced later where you
>> HOLD & TURN at the same time).
>> 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
>
> David, there's so much to learn about this rig!  The last hf rig I owned
> was a National NCX-3.  Three bands and two bandwidths (CW & SSB).  Plain
> and simple (of course one had to tune the radio (dip the plate, increase
> the drive, etc.).
>
> Thanks for the pointer.
>
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