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Carsten Steinhöfel

K3 keyer "mode"

Hi there,

I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a question regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it use? If it has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?

I can't key with dot/dash memory (or Curtis mode B), so I had to use an external keyer for all transceivers so far.

vy 73 de Carsten, DL1EFD

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wayne burdick

Re: K3 keyer "mode"

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Carsten,

The K3's internal keyer presently has two iambic keying modes, A and B,
which closely emulate Curtis mode A and Super CMOS II mode B
respectively.

Mode A, which I use, is the default. (I think it's less error prone
than mode B, but say this in a crowed bar and you'll start a fight for
sure.) Some operators like mode B for its
element-insertion-on-squeeze-release, either because it permits faster
keying or because they learned using a mode-B keyer.

We plan to allow for turning the dot/dash memories off completely in a
future firmware revision.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel wrote:

>
> Hi there,
>
> I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a question
> regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it use? If it
> has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

Wayne,

If you are creating a 'wish list', give consideration for adding
Ultimatic to the list of keyer modes. It helps some of us who have
trouble with any of the other iambic modes.

73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:

> Carsten,
>
> The K3's internal keyer presently has two iambic keying modes, A and
> B, which closely emulate Curtis mode A and Super CMOS II mode B
> respectively.
>
> Mode A, which I use, is the default. (I think it's less error prone
> than mode B, but say this in a crowed bar and you'll start a fight for
> sure.) Some operators like mode B for its
> element-insertion-on-squeeze-release, either because it permits faster
> keying or because they learned using a mode-B keyer.
>
> We plan to allow for turning the dot/dash memories off completely in a
> future firmware revision.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a
>> question regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it
>> use? If it has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?
>
>
>
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Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

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In reply to this post by wayne burdick

I also would ask for Ultimatic. As a K3 choice It's been requested
before for KX1 and K2 and codespace has been an issue, but can we please
have it on the future feature list?
Leigh/WA5ZNU
On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 10:08 am, wayne burdick wrote:

> Carsten,
>
> The K3's internal keyer presently has two iambic keying modes, A and B,
> which closely emulate Curtis mode A and Super CMOS II mode B
> respectively.
>
> Mode A, which I use, is the default. (I think it's less error prone
> than mode B, but say this in a crowed bar and you'll start a fight for
> sure.) Some operators like mode B for its
> element-insertion-on-squeeze-release, either because it permits faster
> keying or because they learned using a mode-B keyer.
>
> We plan to allow for turning the dot/dash memories off completely in a
> future firmware revision.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a question
>> regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it use? If it
>> has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?
>
>
>
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Chris G3SJJ

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

and Automatic Character Spacing, please.

Chris G3SJJ

Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Wayne,
>
> If you are creating a 'wish list', give consideration for adding
> Ultimatic to the list of keyer modes. It helps some of us who have
> trouble with any of the other iambic modes.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> wayne burdick wrote:
>> Carsten,
>>
>> The K3's internal keyer presently has two iambic keying modes, A and
>> B, which closely emulate Curtis mode A and Super CMOS II mode B
>> respectively.
>>
>> Mode A, which I use, is the default. (I think it's less error prone
>> than mode B, but say this in a crowed bar and you'll start a fight
>> for sure.) Some operators like mode B for its
>> element-insertion-on-squeeze-release, either because it permits
>> faster keying or because they learned using a mode-B keyer.
>>
>> We plan to allow for turning the dot/dash memories off completely in
>> a future firmware revision.
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>>
>>> I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a
>>> question regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it
>>> use? If it has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
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Fraser Robertson

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode" - ACS

ACS for me too please. 73 Fraser G4BJM

>From: Chris <[hidden email]>
>CC: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 keyer "mode"
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 19:54:02 +0100
>
>and Automatic Character Spacing, please.
>
>Chris G3SJJ
>
>
>
>Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>Wayne,
>>
>>If you are creating a 'wish list', give consideration for adding Ultimatic
>>to the list of keyer modes. It helps some of us who have trouble with any
>>of the other iambic modes.
>>
>>73,
>>Don W3FPR
>>
>>wayne burdick wrote:
>>>Carsten,
>>>
>>>The K3's internal keyer presently has two iambic keying modes, A and B,
>>>which closely emulate Curtis mode A and Super CMOS II mode B
>>>respectively.
>>>
>>>Mode A, which I use, is the default. (I think it's less error prone than
>>>mode B, but say this in a crowed bar and you'll start a fight for sure.)
>>>Some operators like mode B for its element-insertion-on-squeeze-release,
>>>either because it permits faster keying or because they learned using a
>>>mode-B keyer.
>>>
>>>We plan to allow for turning the dot/dash memories off completely in a
>>>future firmware revision.
>>>
>>>73,
>>>Wayne
>>>N6KR
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sep 7, 2007, at 8:15 AM, Carsten Steinhöfel wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hi there,
>>>>
>>>>I haven't found anything in the archives or the FAQ. I have a question
>>>>regarding the keyer in the K3. Which keying "mode" does it use? If it
>>>>has a dot/dash-memory, can that be switched off?
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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Thom LaCosta

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

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On Fri, 7 Sep 2007, Chris wrote:

> and Automatic Character Spacing, please.

I'd like auto dot and manual dash....unless of course we could have a swing
option.

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M0XDF

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

In reply to this post by Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU

Well, I don't currently 'do' Morse - I'm working on learning - I even
purchased an Elecraft HexKey to go along with my K3.

Having read about Ultimatic, it is the way I had assumed this worked - seems
more natural to me - so from someone who hopes to be using the K3 for CW
within 6 months - please add support for this mode when you can.
I don't think I need to say this (but I will), please add it after you've
completed whatever work is currently in the pipeline :-)

On 7/9/07 19:17, "Leigh L Klotz, Jr." <[hidden email]> sent:

> I also would ask for Ultimatic. As a K3 choice It's been requested
> before for KX1 and K2 and codespace has been an issue, but can we please
> have it on the future feature list?
> Leigh/WA5ZNU

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Guido Tedeschi-2

Re: Re: K3 keyer "mode"

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Wayne,
please, make the K3 mode A very close to Curtis mode A.
I know people (very good CW ops) that must use external keyers (ETM or
Curtis 8044A) with K1 and K2 because, also with mode A, they send Q
instead of K...
Thanks and 73
Guido, ik2bcp

wayne burdick wrote: