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k5oai

K3 manual .pdf edit requests

Along with the recently discussed MENU/MIC SEL Button 7 change, from the
incorrect Button 3 as stated in the manual on pg 52.

here is another update that would be welcome:
pg 40 says:

The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
mode allowed on this band.

I think the new frequencies are as follows:
5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.

reference:
http://www.arrl.org/60m-channel-allocation

TIA
--
GB & 73
K5OAI
Sam Morgan
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k6dgw

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

The last sentence also needs to be updated. Permitted emissions are now
USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY"
really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5
baud FSK.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:

> here is another update that would be welcome:
> pg 40 says:
>
> The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
> correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
> 5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
> mode allowed on this band.
>
> I think the new frequencies are as follows:
> 5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.

David Pratt

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

In reply to this post by k5oai

But bearing mind this applies to the USA. As the K3 is marketed worldwide, maybe all other countries' allocations should be included too.

73 de David G4DMP

On 17 Mar 2014 17:09, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> The last sentence also needs to be updated. Permitted emissions are now
> USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY"
> really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5
> baud FSK.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
>
> > here is another update that would be welcome:
> > pg 40 says:
> >
> > The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
> > correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
> > 5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
> > mode allowed on this band.
> >
> > I think the new frequencies are as follows:
> > 5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.

David Pratt
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

In reply to this post by k6dgw

> however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
> and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.

Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally
described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
detection).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/17/2014 1:09 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> The last sentence also needs to be updated. Permitted emissions are now
> USB, CW, and "RTTY," however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY"
> really means PSK31 and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5
> baud FSK.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/17/2014 7:13 AM, Sam Morgan wrote:
>
>> here is another update that would be welcome:
>> pg 40 says:
>>
>> The U.S. 60-meter channel assignments
>> correspond to VFO settings of 5330.5, 5346.5,
>> 5366.5, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz. USB is the only
>> mode allowed on this band.
>>
>> I think the new frequencies are as follows:
>> 5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, and 5403.5 kHz.
>
>
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k6dgw

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

I think I stand corrected. When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got
the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths.
Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud
170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted. I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?

Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio
Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more
characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it
got very complex.

Side gripe-ette: I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the
entire Part in PDF.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
- www.cqp.org

On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
>> however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
>> and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.
>
> Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
> baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
> Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally
> described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
> whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
> generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
> detection).

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

Part 97 is available in HTML at:
<http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=41328afaea28f9a25ef32f8fdcacd897&n=47y5.0.1.1.6&r=PART&ty=HTML>

If you want it in pdf, simply print to a pdf printer like PDF Creator.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/17/2014 7:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> I think I stand corrected. When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got
> the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths.
> Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud
> 170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted. I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?
>
> Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio
> Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more
> characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it
> got very complex.
>
> Side gripe-ette: I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the
> entire Part in PDF.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
>>> and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.
>>
>> Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
>> baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
>> Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally
>> described as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on
>> whether it is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is
>> generalized data or data meant for on screen display (automatic
>> detection).
>
>
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kk5na

Re: K3 manual .pdf edit requests

Great idea Joe,

I downloaded the free CutePDF and Cute Writer program at
http://www.cutepdf.com/
and then went to the link you sent and did a Print to CutePDF and now have a
PDF version.

Regards
Joe KK5NA

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 manual .pdf edit requests

Part 97 is available in HTML at:
<http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/retrieveECFR?gp=&SID=41328afaea28f9a25ef32f8fdc
acd897&n=47y5.0.1.1.6&r=PART&ty=HTML>

If you want it in pdf, simply print to a pdf printer like PDF Creator.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 3/17/2014 7:44 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:

> I think I stand corrected. When it was first discussed by ARRL, I got
> the impression that any digital mode was confined to PSK-ish bandwidths.
> Looking up the current FCC regs, 2K80J2D is permitted, so 45.5 baud
> 170 Hz shift RTTY would also be permitted. I guess 2K80J2D is Pactor-3?
>
> Given that we have moved from "A1"=Morse Telegraphy, "A2"=Audio
> Modulated Morse Telegraphy, and "A3"=AM Voice to 7, 8, and more
> characters in an emission type designator, it's not surprising that it
> got very complex.
>
> Side gripe-ette: I was sorry when ecfr.gov stopped publishing the
> entire Part in PDF.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 3/17/2014 12:32 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> however the FCC's bandwidth limitation on "RTTY" really means PSK31
>>> and other narrow band digital modes, not 170 Hz 45.5 baud FSK.
>>
>> Not true ... if 2K80J2D is permitted *any* J2D mode (including 45.45
>> baud AFSK) with a bandwidth *less than* 2800 Hz would also be permitted.
>> Traditional RTTY (170 H shift, 45.45 baud) can be equally described
>> as 370H0F1D, 370H0F1B, 370H0J2D or 370H0J2B depending on whether it
>> is generated as AFSK or FSK and whether the content is generalized
>> data or data meant for on screen display (automatic detection).
>
>
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Re: K3 needing power on -off cycling to recover settings.

May be operator error .

I have my SSB+CW set up to be able to use key to generate a cw signal to
tweak amp into dummy load after large in band freq excursions , very handy.

But VERY often that ability is gone and just recycling power resets the
function.

I have NOT tapped the "1" key- at least not on the band it is not working ,
don't recall tapping the "1" key on any band last night chasing the VK9MT
from12 to 17 meters .

Is this function saved/ recalled by band ?

While on the subject is it possible to have SSB+CW on VFOB when split ?

Hank K7HP

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