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Martin Sole-3

K3 shift-width/lo-hi

HI,

So today having fun in WPX but playing with the K3 controls I am fairly
sure that I should be able to change from shift-width to lo-hi by just a
tap of either knob, but it does nothing. Well it does work as expected
in Data and AM mode but not in CW or SSB. All other functions are normal
and working as expected including the NORM and I/II switch functions.
its just shift-width/hi-lo in CW and SSB modes only.

I've never needed to do this before but am scratching my head how to do
a hard reset to default baseline settings, cannot find anything in the
manual.

So what's going on? Have I set something that could disable this, and
how can I achieve a clean test state to see what should or shouldn;t work.

73
Martin, HS0ZED

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Nr4c

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

Look in manual for “EE_Init”.

Is it set to Hi-Lo for SSB and Shift-Width for CW? If so, why change it?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> So today having fun in WPX but playing with the K3 controls I am fairly sure that I should be able to change from shift-width to lo-hi by just a tap of either knob, but it does nothing. Well it does work as expected in Data and AM mode but not in CW or SSB. All other functions are normal and working as expected including the NORM and I/II switch functions. its just shift-width/hi-lo in CW and SSB modes only.
>
> I've never needed to do this before but am scratching my head how to do a hard reset to default baseline settings, cannot find anything in the manual.
>
> So what's going on? Have I set something that could disable this, and how can I achieve a clean test state to see what should or shouldn;t work.
>
> 73
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
>
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Martin Sole-3

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

Bill,

Many thanks, EE-Init seems to have done the trick, if for no other
reason than it set default settings and restored the normal operation.
Loading my saved configuration, saved after the problem occurred,
created the same problem, no HI-Lo in SSB only on Data and AM.

I've now doe a full manual setup of all my filters and modules, I had
that info to hand, and saved the current full working configuration.

So normal service is restored and the Hi-Lo function is once again
working on all modes. Now I just need to brave the 38 degrees C to get
outside and climb the tower to work on the antenna.

Many thanks Bill

73
Martin, HS0ZED

On 28/03/2020 15:53, Nr4c wrote:

> Look in manual for “EE_Init”.
>
> Is it set to Hi-Lo for SSB and Shift-Width for CW? If so, why change it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> So today having fun in WPX but playing with the K3 controls I am fairly sure that I should be able to change from shift-width to lo-hi by just a tap of either knob, but it does nothing. Well it does work as expected in Data and AM mode but not in CW or SSB. All other functions are normal and working as expected including the NORM and I/II switch functions. its just shift-width/hi-lo in CW and SSB modes only.
>>
>> I've never needed to do this before but am scratching my head how to do a hard reset to default baseline settings, cannot find anything in the manual.
>>
>> So what's going on? Have I set something that could disable this, and how can I achieve a clean test state to see what should or shouldn;t work.
>>
>> 73
>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>
>>
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Nr4c

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

64 F and overcast here in Williamsburg, Virginia right now.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill

> On Mar 28, 2020, at 10:24 AM, Martin Sole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Many thanks, EE-Init seems to have done the trick, if for no other reason than it set default settings and restored the normal operation. Loading my saved configuration, saved after the problem occurred, created the same problem, no HI-Lo in SSB only on Data and AM.
>
> I've now doe a full manual setup of all my filters and modules, I had that info to hand, and saved the current full working configuration.
>
> So normal service is restored and the Hi-Lo function is once again working on all modes. Now I just need to brave the 38 degrees C to get outside and climb the tower to work on the antenna.
>
> Many thanks Bill
>
> 73
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
>
>
>> On 28/03/2020 15:53, Nr4c wrote:
>> Look in manual for “EE_Init”.
>>
>> Is it set to Hi-Lo for SSB and Shift-Width for CW? If so, why change it?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 3:51 AM, Martin Sole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> So today having fun in WPX but playing with the K3 controls I am fairly sure that I should be able to change from shift-width to lo-hi by just a tap of either knob, but it does nothing. Well it does work as expected in Data and AM mode but not in CW or SSB. All other functions are normal and working as expected including the NORM and I/II switch functions. its just shift-width/hi-lo in CW and SSB modes only.
>>>
>>> I've never needed to do this before but am scratching my head how to do a hard reset to default baseline settings, cannot find anything in the manual.
>>>
>>> So what's going on? Have I set something that could disable this, and how can I achieve a clean test state to see what should or shouldn;t work.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Martin, HS0ZED
>>>
>>>
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KeithWE6R

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

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Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
Then save the config.
**BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
From my notes;

*_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA
mode(s) + N/A_*

_Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 instead
of .01

Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the
toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:

CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)

CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01

DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)

Keith WE6R
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Buck

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

How about this one? K3S CW mode. Tone at 14.053.953 with shift at 650
Hz, lox cut at .10 High cut at 1.20. Same tone at 7.026.765 and
21.074.113 but weaker. The tone is strong enough to show a spike on the
P3.

Tone goes away if I move the shift off 650 Hz or change the low cut or
high cut. But the spike still appears on the P3 screen? Something in
the P3?

k4ia, Buck
K3s# 11497
Honor Roll 8B DXCC
EasyWayHamBooks.com

On 3/30/2020 5:50 PM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:

> Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
> Then save the config.
> **BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
> From my notes;
>
> *_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA
> mode(s) + N/A_*
>
> _Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 instead
> of .01
>
> Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the
> toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:
>
> CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)
>
> CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01
>
> DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)
>
> Keith WE6R
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Martin Sole-3

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

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Keith,

Many thanks for the heads up. I did the gain calibration instinctively
as I did not know if it would be modified by the EE-Init or not, the D10
manual page 66 on parameter initialization does not state.

All working well now and the radio is back to proper operation.

Martin, HS0ZED

On 31/03/2020 04:50, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

In reply to this post by Buck

Not observed on my K3S, sn 10163 radio. And nothing shows on my P3.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 3/30/2020 5:39 PM, Buck wrote:

> How about this one? K3S CW mode. Tone at 14.053.953 with shift at 650
> Hz, lox cut at .10 High cut at 1.20. Same tone at 7.026.765 and
> 21.074.113 but weaker. The tone is strong enough to show a spike on
> the P3.
>
> Tone goes away if I move the shift off 650 Hz or change the low cut or
> high cut. But the spike still appears on the P3 screen? Something in
> the P3?
>
> k4ia, Buck
> K3s# 11497
> Honor Roll 8B DXCC
> EasyWayHamBooks.com
>
> On 3/30/2020 5:50 PM, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:
>> Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
>> Then save the config.
>> **BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
>> From my notes;
>>
>> *_Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or
>> DATA mode(s) + N/A_*
>>
>> _Fix;_Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05
>> instead of .01
>>
>> Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the
>> toggle to HI CUT / LO CUT:
>>
>> CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)
>>
>> CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01
>>
>> DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)
>>
>> Keith WE6R
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KeithWE6R

Re: K3 shift-width/lo-hi

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The K3 Utility help explains what gets EE INIT-ed.
Glad it is working.
Keith WE6R, Elecraft K3 Tech

On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:47 PM Martin Sole <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Keith,
>
> Many thanks for the heads up. I did the gain calibration instinctively as
> I did not know if it would be modified by the EE-Init or not, the D10
> manual page 66 on parameter initialization does not state.
>
> All working well now and the radio is back to proper operation.
>
> Martin, HS0ZED
>
>
> On 31/03/2020 04:50, Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:
>
> Don't forget to do the TX gain cal, that gets wiped during EE INIT.
> Then save the config.
> **BUT; You might try loading your saved config, then read my notes;
> From my notes;
>
> *Cannot toggle LEDs SHIFT LO CUT HI WIDTH TAPPING LOCKED in CW or DATA
> mode(s) + N/A*
>
> *Fix;* Turn off “CW QRQ” in config menu, or set “PB CTRL” to .05 instead
> of .01
>
> Notes; Any of the following, in any combination, will lock out the toggle
> to HI CUT / LO CUT:
>
> CW mode and CW QRQ ON ("+" sign visible on LCD display, not flashing)
>
> CW mode and CONFIG:PB CTRL Shift=.01
>
> DATA mode (FSK/AFSK)
> Keith WE6R
>
>
>