K3: supplied power cable specs?
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Just out of curiosity (as I sit here revamping my station's power system), what
gauge and length is the power cable supplied with the K3? I see it has Power Poles installed on one end - is the other unterminated? Thanks and 73, Mike KW1ND _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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12 Ga, 5 ft.
Power Pole connectors on one end, unterminated on the other end. This cable is built for the Assembled K3s. Kit for for the kits. 73, Eric WA6HHQ ------ Mike B wrote: > Just out of curiosity (as I sit here revamping my station's power system), what > gauge and length is the power cable supplied with the K3? > > I see it has Power Poles installed on one end - is the other unterminated? > > Thanks and 73, > > Mike > KW1ND > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors!
Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) 73, Henry - K4TMC -----Original Message----- From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft <[hidden email]> To: Mike B <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 7:39 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: supplied power cable specs? 12 Ga, 5 ft. Power Pole connectors on one end, unterminated on the other end. This cable is built for the Assembled K3s. Kit for for the kits. 73, Eric WA6HHQ ------ Mike B wrote: > Just out of curiosity (as I sit here revamping my station's power system), what > gauge and length is the power cable supplied with the K3? > > I see it has Power Poles installed on one end - is the other unterminated? > > Thanks and 73, > > Mike > KW1ND > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors!
> > Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) > I don't care what they say, I solder mine like I do almost all my crimp connectors. I've never had one melt out or fail. Now to get the little jasper snapped into the housing. Dave W5DHM K3 third run _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Powerwerx (http://www.powerwerx.com/) sells an inexpensive tool for
locking the connector into its housing. This tool can also be used to remove a connector from the housing. I have one of the crimp tools sold by Powerwerx (http://www.powerwerx.com/product.asp?ProdID=3324&CtgID=1022) and it works much better than the less expensive tool also from that company. With the TRIcrimp, I get perfect crimps every time. Sometimes difficulty in getting the contact into the housing is caused by a slight bend in the contact (the less expensive crimper tended to do this) or a slight out of round in the crimped body of the contact. I have not so far soldered the contacts on, but do plead guilty to putting a ratchet tie around the figure eight cable just before it enters the housing and filling the void in the housing with hot glue and extending the hot glue up to the ratchet tie. The purpose is to prevent repeated bending of the cable near the contact. Maybe this is not good practice. I don't know. FWIW. Usual disclaimers. 73 Kevin VK3DAP / ZL2DAP Dave Martin wrote: >> Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors! >> >> Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) >> > I don't care what they say, I solder mine like I do almost all my > crimp connectors. I've never had one melt out or fail. Now to get > the little jasper snapped into the housing. > > Dave W5DHM > K3 third run _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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-----Original Message----- Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors! Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) 73, Henry - K4TMC ------------------------ Boy, I'm with you Henry. APP - they're great if you're seriously into gear and have lots of rigs. Then you can spend the $50 for the tool and it's no big deal. I have one rig. I'm NOT going to spend $50 for a crimp tool to do 2 connections. Yet, crimping is the right way to do these. I soldered the ones for my K2/100 and will end up doing the same for those with the K3, all the time wishing they were crimped. Actually, maybe I should buy the top-dollar crimper, a case of APP connectors and a spool of 12 ga wire, and become the Power Pole Guy. Or not. - Keith N1AS - - K2 5411.ssb.100 - - K3 wave 3 - _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Fellas:
SOLDERING, esp. when the wire size closely approximates the inner diameter of the APP contact pin, works JUST GREAT! Don't sweat the high-dollar crimper. NOT REQ. Just do a creditable job of soldering. 73, Tom N0SS At 06:45 10/24/2007, Darwin, Keith wrote: > > >-----Original Message----- >Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors! > >Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) > >73, >Henry - K4TMC >------------------------ > >Boy, I'm with you Henry. APP - they're great if you're seriously into >gear and have lots of rigs. Then you can spend the $50 for the tool and >it's no big deal. > >I have one rig. I'm NOT going to spend $50 for a crimp tool to do 2 >connections. Yet, crimping is the right way to do these. I soldered >the ones for my K2/100 and will end up doing the same for those with the >K3, all the time wishing they were crimped. > >Actually, maybe I should buy the top-dollar crimper, a case of APP >connectors and a spool of 12 ga wire, and become the Power Pole Guy. Or >not. > >- Keith N1AS - >- K2 5411.ssb.100 - >- K3 wave 3 - >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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but.. the K3 is a no solder kit! Sorry...
I converted my shack and a couple op positions at our club shack to APP's - soldered dozens of them, works great. One tip: make sure of the orientation of the connector pins before soldering especially on heavy gauge wire. This can be a bit tricky as the pin will want to rotate on the wire as soon as you touch it with the soldering iron (Murphy at work). It's important so you don't have to twist the conductor to get the pin into the connector. Also the little APP insertion tool is quite handy for small gauge wire. So now we know, there are two solder connections on the K3 kit! (Four if you count the PL-259) 73, Bill N2BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hammond" <[hidden email]> To: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: supplied power cable specs? > Fellas: > > SOLDERING, esp. when the wire size closely approximates the inner diameter > of the > APP contact pin, works JUST GREAT! Don't sweat the high-dollar crimper. > NOT REQ. > Just do a creditable job of soldering. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Unless I'm mistaken, aren't the PPs on the the cable when you receive it
anyway (I don't remember seeing anything about assembling them in the manual)? I confirm soldering works great, just be careful to get a good flow of molten solder, but not enough to run out of the contact end and onto the actual wiping contact. For what its worth, I have converted all my 12v power to use PPs, I even took the Molex connector off the Yaesu FT-857 and replaced with PP (why didn't I do what a lot of people have done and put PPs on the fly lead? Because the Molex connector had an intermittent connection, not to mention it being about twice the size). To this end, I bought a West Mountain Pro crimper from Quicksilver Radio Products (http://www.qsradio.com/, I found them to be very good) because I had so many to do. On 24/10/07 13:34, "Tom Hammond" <[hidden email]> sent: > Fellas: > > SOLDERING, esp. when the wire size closely approximates the inner > diameter of the > APP contact pin, works JUST GREAT! Don't sweat the high-dollar > crimper. NOT REQ. > Just do a creditable job of soldering. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > > At 06:45 10/24/2007, Darwin, Keith wrote: >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Oh No! Instead of toroids, I have to build power pole connectors! >> >> Is there a Power Pole Guy out there? :-) >> >> 73, >> Henry - K4TMC >> ------------------------ >> >> Boy, I'm with you Henry. APP - they're great if you're seriously into >> gear and have lots of rigs. Then you can spend the $50 for the tool and >> it's no big deal. >> >> I have one rig. I'm NOT going to spend $50 for a crimp tool to do 2 >> connections. Yet, crimping is the right way to do these. I soldered >> the ones for my K2/100 and will end up doing the same for those with the >> K3, all the time wishing they were crimped. >> >> Actually, maybe I should buy the top-dollar crimper, a case of APP >> connectors and a spool of 12 ga wire, and become the Power Pole Guy. Or >> not. >> >> - Keith N1AS - >> - K2 5411.ssb.100 - >> - K3 wave 3 - >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth. -Chinese proverb _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Here is Item 9 from the "Tools and Test Equipment Required" list in the
assembly manual. Note that it is a power cable KIT that is supplied. "9. Power supply 13 VDC nominal (11-16 V) with a cable and Anderson PowerPole® connector. A suitable power cable kit is provided with your K3 if you do not have a suitable cable with the required Anderson PowerPole connector." 73, Ken K3IU ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: > Unless I'm mistaken, aren't the PPs on the the cable when you receive it > anyway (I don't remember seeing anything about assembling them in the > manual)? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hmmm, sorry - I was looking at the prelim manual and it just said
" Power supply 13 VDC nominal (11-16 V). A power cable is provided with your K3, You¹ll need to connect it to your supply: red wire to positive and black to negative." On 24/10/07 14:49, "Ken K3IU" <[hidden email]> sent: > Here is Item 9 from the "Tools and Test Equipment Required" list in the > assembly manual. Note that it is a power cable KIT that is supplied. > > "9. Power supply 13 VDC nominal (11-16 V) with a cable and Anderson > PowerPole® connector. A suitable power cable kit is provided with your > K3 if you do not have a suitable cable with the required Anderson > PowerPole connector." > > 73, Ken K3IU > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: >> Unless I'm mistaken, aren't the PPs on the the cable when you receive it >> anyway (I don't remember seeing anything about assembling them in the >> manual)? > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Dear God, Did you mean for the giraffe to look like that or was it an accident? -Norma [Children's Letters to God, 1991] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I use Power Poles for all my 12 volt gear: radio power, chargers, other
electronic gadgets, and have always soldered the pins on. I have never had a failure in years of using them. One small benefit of soldering, for those of us cheapskates, is that they can be used again for other purposes. Just release from the plastic housing with a jeweler's screwdriver, unsolder, and resolder onto another application. I use the same little screwdriver to push the pin into the housing, but watch your fingers! Jay K1UC _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> So now we know, there are two solder connections on the K3
> kit! (Four if > you count the PL-259) The K3 SO239s come with a wire pre-soldered. The other end of the wire is a gold-plated pin that plugs into its mating socket on the KANT3 or KAT3. 73, Ed - W0YK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Unless I'm mistaken, aren't the PPs on the the cable when you
> receive it anyway (I don't remember seeing anything about > assembling them in the manual)? The assembled K3 comes with APP already attached on one end of the 5' #12 wire cable. The K3 kit provides the parts for the builder to fabricate the same thing. The other end of the cable in both cases is unterminated. 73, Ed - W0YK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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There are a number of places that sell complete cables with Power
Poles- this is just one (but they have done a couple of custom items for me): http://www.powerwerx.com/ And you may have friends or a local club that have the right tooling. 73, doug _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Nah, you should be using crimp-on PL-259's too.
I do. 73, doug From: "Bill Coleman N2BC" <[hidden email]> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 08:47:44 -0400 but.. the K3 is a no solder kit! Sorry... I converted my shack and a couple op positions at our club shack to APP's - soldered dozens of them, works great. One tip: make sure of the orientation of the connector pins before soldering especially on heavy gauge wire. This can be a bit tricky as the pin will want to rotate on the wire as soon as you touch it with the soldering iron (Murphy at work). It's important so you don't have to twist the conductor to get the pin into the connector. Also the little APP insertion tool is quite handy for small gauge wire. So now we know, there are two solder connections on the K3 kit! (Four if you count the PL-259) 73, Bill N2BC ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Hammond" <[hidden email]> To: "Darwin, Keith" <[hidden email]>; <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:34 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3: supplied power cable specs? > Fellas: > > SOLDERING, esp. when the wire size closely approximates the inner diameter > of the > APP contact pin, works JUST GREAT! Don't sweat the high-dollar crimper. > NOT REQ. > Just do a creditable job of soldering. > > 73, > > Tom N0SS > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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For the people looking for a "Power Pole guy", these people are also
good. I've bought some rig-specific cables from them. Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:13:25 +0100 From: "David Ferrington, M0XDF" <[hidden email]> Unless I'm mistaken, aren't the PPs on the the cable when you receive it anyway (I don't remember seeing anything about assembling them in the manual)? Nope, if you get a kit, you get a power cable kit. crimper from Quicksilver Radio Products (http://www.qsradio.com/, I found 73, doug _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I've got my K3 (#22) and the power cable is a kit. BTW, the radio is built and tested, after a minor problem, and the radio project for the day is update the firmware and clear a space for it at the operating position. I'm also working on memorizing the manual. But I have too many projects, and I want to take advantage of the good weather for outside stuff. 73, doug _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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