K3 used prices - UK

[Julian, G4ILO]

I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently either bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know the spec and price sold/bought for.

I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I still believe the K3 is capable of being the all round world class radio I hoped it would be when I ordered it, but I am sick and tired of being attacked by the religious fanatics on this list whenever I dare to suggest that the K3 in its current state is less than perfect.

My apologies to those who are uninterested in this for wasting even more of your bandwidth.

[NZ0T]

Sorry to hear the K3 didn't work for you.  Digimodes don't interest me at all but I would be most interested in what you replace your K3 with and how it works out for you.

Julian, G4ILO wrote

I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently either bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know the spec and price sold/bought for.

I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I still believe the K3 is capable of being the all round world class radio I hoped it would be when I ordered it, but I am sick and tired of being attacked by the religious fanatics on this list whenever I dare to suggest that the K3 in its current state is less than perfect.

My apologies to those who are uninterested in this for wasting even more of your bandwidth.

[Ian Maude]

I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
 Lets face it, EQ per mode has been asked for many times.  What I think he
is sick of though is the invective he receives whenever he dares to make a
criticism, something I have also suffered in the past.
73 Ian

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2009/9/20 NZ0T <[hidden email]>

>
> Sorry to hear the K3 didn't work for you.  Digimodes don't interest me at
> all
> but I would be most interested in what you replace your K3 with and how it
> works out for you.
>
>
> Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> >
> > I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently
> > either bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know
> > the spec and price sold/bought for.
> >
> > I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I
> > still believe the K3 is capable of being the all round world class radio
> I
> > hoped it would be when I ordered it, but I am sick and tired of being
> > attacked by the religious fanatics on this list whenever I dare to
> suggest
> > that the K3 in its current state is less than perfect.
> >
> > My apologies to those who are uninterested in this for wasting even more
> > of your bandwidth.
> >
>
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[Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone]]

It'd be cheaper to unsubscribe from this mailing list.
Or just complain to Elecraft, instead of the whole list.

73, doug

   Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:53:17 +0100
   From: Ian Maude <[hidden email]>

   I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
    Lets face it, EQ per mode has been asked for many times.  What I think he
   is sick of though is the invective he receives whenever he dares to make a
   criticism, something I have also suffered in the past.
   73 Ian

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   SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
   Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
   http://www.amateurradiotraining.org


   2009/9/20 NZ0T <[hidden email]>

   >
   > Sorry to hear the K3 didn't work for you.  Digimodes don't interest me at
   > all
   > but I would be most interested in what you replace your K3 with and how it
   > works out for you.
   >
   >
   > Julian, G4ILO wrote:
   > >
   > > I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently
   > > either bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know
   > > the spec and price sold/bought for.
   > >
   > > I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I
   > > still believe the K3 is capable of being the all round world class radio
   > I
   > > hoped it would be when I ordered it, but I am sick and tired of being
   > > attacked by the religious fanatics on this list whenever I dare to
   > suggest
   > > that the K3 in its current state is less than perfect.
   > >
   > > My apologies to those who are uninterested in this for wasting even more
   > > of your bandwidth.
   > >
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[David Gilbert]

I actually learn quite a bit about the K3 (and sometimes about their
owners) from some of the complaints aired on this reflector.  However, I
don't learn very much (at least not about the K3) when I read the same
complaint over and over and over again from the same owner.

73,
Dave   AB7E



Ian Maude wrote:
> I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
>  Lets face it, EQ per mode has been asked for many times.  What I think he
> is sick of though is the invective he receives whenever he dares to make a
> criticism, something I have also suffered in the past.
> 73 Ian
>
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[pd0psb]

Making your remarks directly to Elecraft just doesn't work.
Reflector is Elecrafts' wishlist-buffer.

Ik you have something to say about K3 ,Reflector is the only place to get some sort of consensus for improvement or direction of further FW development. Wheter you like it or not, there will be quite a wide spectrum of opinions about K3's future FW with 3000+ users around. They will not all be contest/cw and dx oriented.

If something isn't picked up, you'll have to repeat yourself.
That *may* be frustrating for users and causing irritation to others.

The improvement in LF response that has been under repeated heavy attack in Reflector is such an example.
Elecraft chose to introduce this as a "firmware coincedence" not to re-stir the hot discussion.
Now most seem very happy by this improvement, even though it was repeated,discussed and opposed over and over.

It all seems part of the K3 game.
A reason why I also stepped out.

It would be wondeful if somehow firmware would be more open-source, so everybody can stay out of politics and dig in their own radios again.

Julian: Good luck finding your "ideal" tranceiver without fighting for firmware consensus.
Enjoy the hobby.

73'
Paul
PD0PSB

[JIM DAVIS-11]

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:04:07 -0400 (EDT)
  Doug Faunt N6TQS [phone] <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It'd be cheaper to unsubscribe from this mailing list.
> Or just complain to Elecraft, instead of the whole list.
>
> 73, doug
>
>   Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:53:17 +0100
>   From: Ian Maude <[hidden email]>
>
>   I believe the K3 does work for Julian but he believes it could be better.
>    Lets face it, EQ per mode has been asked for many times.  What I think he
>   is sick of though is the invective he receives whenever he dares to make a
>   criticism, something I have also suffered in the past.
>   73 Ian
>
>   --
>   Ian J Maude, G0VGS
>   SysOp GB7MBC & HB9DRV-9 DX Clusters
>   Member RSGB, GQRP 9838, FISTS 14077 | K3 #455
>   http://www.amateurradiotraining.org
>
>
>   2009/9/20 NZ0T <[hidden email]>
>
>   >
>   > Sorry to hear the K3 didn't work for you.  Digimodes don't interest me at
>   > all
>   > but I would be most interested in what you replace your K3 with and how it
>   > works out for you.
>   >
>   >
>   > Julian, G4ILO wrote:
>   > >
>   > > I would appreciate it if any list member from the UK who has recently
>   > > either bought or sold a used K3 could contact me off-list and let me know
>   > > the spec and price sold/bought for.
>   > >
>   > > I think it might be time for me and Elecraft to go our separate ways. I
>   > > still believe the K3 is capable of being the all round world class radio
>   > I
>   > > hoped it would be when I ordered it, but I am sick and tired of being
>   > > attacked by the religious fanatics on this list whenever I dare to
>   > suggest
>   > > that the K3 in its current state is less than perfect.
>   > >
>   > > My apologies to those who are uninterested in this for wasting even more
>   > > of your bandwidth.
>   > >
> ______________________________________________________________

Doug,

Yes even out here I've been at the receiving end of crass invective from various members which
does'nt sit well with me either and I always reply in kind (you can count on it!), but ANYBODY
who spends THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY on an "Elecraft product" has EVERY RIGHT to question or
complain
anytime they want to about either the rig or management as long as it's kept civil (of course!)

You seem to be suggesting to the "Brit" his comments are'nt wanted for everyone to read!

I DISAGREE!

Jim/nn6ee
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[AD4C2009]

And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a single receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the other VFO,why both have to be slaved and moved together when we could leave one in let say 40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW? All foreign radios I owned in the past could do this. I put this want some time ago in my wish list over here and it look like its been forgotten and its not a priority so far.
What do you think about this feature guys?
 
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[Brendan Minish]

Hector Padron wrote:
>
>
> And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a
single receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the
other VFO,why both have to be slaved and moved together when we could
leave one in let say 40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW?

You can do this, just set VFO IND to YES in the config menu.

73
Brendan EI6IZ
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[Don Wilhelm-4]

Hector,

No need to slave the VFOs - if they are slaved, hold the SUB button to
unlink the VFOs.
Tap A/B to swap between the two VFO frequencies - it works even if they
are on different bands.

73,
Don W3FPR

Hector Padron wrote:

>
>
> And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a single receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the other VFO,why both have to be slaved and moved together when we could leave one in let say 40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW? All foreign radios I owned in the past could do this. I put this want some time ago in my wish list over here and it look like its been forgotten and its not a priority so far.
> What do you think about this feature guys?
>  
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[AD4C2009]

Thanks Brendan,I just did it and you are right,I am now with VFO A at 40M and VFO B at 20M each one even on different modes,I haven't try this since 4 firmwares back and probably didn't realize that was one of the upgrades done,man I love this group in spite of the fights,If one have a doubt someone somewhere in the world will come with the right answer,so then this feature is not anymore in my wish list,thanks again for your quick help,I am a happy camper,73
 
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--- On Sun, 9/20/09, Brendan Minish <[hidden email]> wrote:


From: Brendan Minish <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lets go back to the wish list
To: "Hector Padron" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 10:11 PM


Hector Padron wrote:
>
>
> And talking about wants and wishes,how about to make the K3 with a
single receiver be able to have one VFO in one different band than the
other VFO,why both have to be slaved and moved together when we could
leave one in let say 40M SSB and have the second VFO on 20M CW?

You can do this, just set VFO IND to YES in the config menu.

73
Brendan EI6IZ



     
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[Joe Subich, W4TV-4]

> If something isn't picked up, you'll have to repeat yourself.
> That *may* be frustrating for users and causing irritation to
> others.

If something is not picked up, it may be because it is a bad
idea or the majority of other users feed it would be a step
backward.  Constant carping by a few for their favorite niche
feature is tiresome and only adds to the useless noise.

If you feel the K3 does not meet its published (guaranteed)
specifications take that up with Elecraft directly.  Don't
subject the 1000+ readers of this list to the abuse of your
repeated carping.  Only Elecraft can answer your complaints.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of pd0psb
> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2009 3:17 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 used prices - UK
>
>
>
> Making your remarks directly to Elecraft just doesn't work.
> Reflector is Elecrafts' wishlist-buffer.
>
> Ik you have something to say about K3 ,Reflector is the only
> place to get some sort of consensus for improvement or
> direction of further FW development. Wheter you like it or
> not, there will be quite a wide spectrum of opinions about
> K3's future FW with 3000+ users around. They will not all be
> contest/cw and dx oriented.
>
> If something isn't picked up, you'll have to repeat yourself.
> That *may* be frustrating for users and causing irritation to others.
>
> The improvement in LF response that has been under repeated
> heavy attack in Reflector is such an example. Elecraft chose
> to introduce this as a "firmware coincedence" not to re-stir
> the hot discussion. Now most seem very happy by this
> improvement, even though it was repeated,discussed and
> opposed over and over.
>
> It all seems part of the K3 game.
> A reason why I also stepped out.
>
> It would be wondeful if somehow firmware would be more
> open-source, so everybody can stay out of politics and dig in
> their own radios again.
>
> Julian: Good luck finding your "ideal" tranceiver without
> fighting for firmware consensus. Enjoy the hobby.
>
> 73'
> Paul
> PD0PSB
>
>
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[pd0psb]

<quote author="Joe Subich, W4TV-4">

<If something is not picked up, it may be because it is a bad
idea or the majority of other users feed it would be a step
backward.  Constant carping by a few for their favorite niche
feature is tiresome and only adds to the useless noise.>

Such as a linear passband response "some" always (extremely strongly and repeatedly) opposed to?
But I'm happy you're here seperating the noise from the wanted signal ;-)

73'
Paul
PD0PSB






 

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[David Cutter]

Part of the requirements for using this reflector are that we don't add *me too* comments.    Is there another way to support/comment upon new ideas?

David
G3UNA

 
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> If something is not picked up, it may be because it is a bad
> idea or the majority of other users feed it would be a step
> backward.  Constant carping by a few for their favorite niche
> feature is tiresome and only adds to the useless noise.
>
> Such as a linear passband response "some" always (extremely strongly and
> repeatedly) opposed to?
> But I'm happy you're here seperating the noise from the wanted signal ;-)
>
> 73'
> Paul
> PD0PSB
>
>
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[John Lemay]

I think that part of Julian's original mail has so far gone unanswered -
that is the question of valuing used Elecraft K3 series equipment. There
hasn't been much for sale recently so there is little to go on. My starting
point, I think, would be around 2/3rds of the price you paid. Of course,
this might be complicated by the varying exchange rate and occasional price
increases.

Regards

John G4ZTR

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 used prices - UK

Part of the requirements for using this reflector are that we don't add *me
too* comments.    Is there another way to support/comment upon new ideas?

David
G3UNA

 
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>
>
>
> If something is not picked up, it may be because it is a bad
> idea or the majority of other users feed it would be a step
> backward.  Constant carping by a few for their favorite niche
> feature is tiresome and only adds to the useless noise.
>
> Such as a linear passband response "some" always (extremely strongly and
> repeatedly) opposed to?
> But I'm happy you're here seperating the noise from the wanted signal ;-)
>
> 73'
> Paul
> PD0PSB
>
>
>
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[M0XDF]

for insurance purposes, I quotes the the current price for all the  
modules I have in my K3 (which is them all)
I don't believe the K3 depriciates that much when it comes to a sale.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
--
Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try
to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly
untrained, unqualified, expendable professional.

On 21 Sep 2009, at 11:04, John Lemay wrote:

> I think that part of Julian's original mail has so far gone  
> unanswered -
> that is the question of valuing used Elecraft K3 series equipment.  
> There
> hasn't been much for sale recently so there is little to go on. My  
> starting
> point, I think, would be around 2/3rds of the price you paid. Of  
> course,
> this might be complicated by the varying exchange rate and  
> occasional price
> increases.

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[Guy, K2AV]

Freedom of speech works both ways.

It surely includes your right to bitch and moan however you please about
your K3 you spent your money on.  But it also includes the right for someone
else to say you're just bitching and moaning, or wonder aloud in text if the
only reason you bought your K3 was to buy moaning rights on the Elecraft
reflector.

It's a tough room. Calling someone else a religious fanatic, best be ready
to catch a little blowback.

73, Guy.

Yes even out here I've been at the receiving end of crass invective from

> various members which
> does'nt sit well with me either and I always reply in kind (you can count
> on it!), but ANYBODY
> who spends THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY on an "Elecraft product" has EVERY RIGHT
> to question or
> complain
> anytime they want to about either the rig or management as long as it's
> kept civil (of course!)
>
> You seem to be suggesting to the "Brit" his comments are'nt wanted for
> everyone to read!
>
> I DISAGREE!
>
> Jim/nn6ee
>

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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

Let's end this part of the thread. This is not the place to argue about
who may say what. the list guidelines are very specific - direct
personal criticisms of other posters is not allowed on this list.

If you have a problem with a post, please email me as list moderator.

73,
Eric
Elecraft List moderator

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Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:

> Freedom of speech works both ways.
>
> It surely includes your right to bitch and moan however you please about
> your K3 you spent your money on.  But it also includes the right for someone
> else to say you're just bitching and moaning, or wonder aloud in text if the
> only reason you bought your K3 was to buy moaning rights on the Elecraft
> reflector.
>
> It's a tough room. Calling someone else a religious fanatic, best be ready
> to catch a little blowback.
>
> 73, Guy.
>
> Yes even out here I've been at the receiving end of crass invective from
>  
>> various members which
>> does'nt sit well with me either and I always reply in kind (you can count
>> on it!), but ANYBODY
>> who spends THEIR HARD EARNED MONEY on an "Elecraft product" has EVERY RIGHT
>> to question or
>> complain
>> anytime they want to about either the rig or management as long as it's
>> kept civil (of course!)
>>
>> You seem to be suggesting to the "Brit" his comments are'nt wanted for
>> everyone to read!
>>
>> I DISAGREE!
>>
>> Jim/nn6ee
>>
>>    
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