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Ron Midwin

K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

I've been using the Heil version of the Clear Speech Noise Reduction Speaker
for ~ 5 years. It has a 5 position noise control and I usually leave it at
1, which knocks down the noise without any negative effects on the sound.
Heil no longer makes it, but I believe it uses similar circuitry.

My default setting is at 1 out of 5, and this cleans up the harsh noise very
nicely without noticeable audio degradation.

When the noise gets really bad, I have used it all the way up to 5, and
still don't find the audio objectionable.

I also have not had a lot of success with the K3 built in NR, but this is
probably due to my lack of understanding how to use it; but since the Clear
Speech works so well, I take the lazy way out.

If there's any good updated info on how to use the NR effectively, I'd be
all ears. Maybe someone who really has it working well can do a YouTube?

My 2 cents.

Ron

KB6G

K3 S/N 1997

P.S. I still give the K3 a 5+

----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill" <[hidden email]>

To: <[hidden email]>

Sent: Friday, August 30, 2013 8:05 PM

Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - using Clear Speech Speaker

Is anyone using the West Mountain Clear Speech Noise Reduction Speaker

with their K3? If so, how do you like and what does it do for you that

the K3 does not?

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC

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Allen Brier N5XZ

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

Now that's something that Elecraft needs to work on, thier internal noise reduction system. I find it almost useless, and I've tried it many times with many settings.

Allen N5XZ

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>From: "Ron Midwin" <[hidden email]>
>To: <[hidden email]>
>Cc: [hidden email]
>Subject: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker
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>I've been using the Heil version of the Clear Speech Noise Reduction Speaker
>for ~ 5 years. It has a 5 position noise control and I usually leave it at
>1, which knocks down the noise without any negative effects on the sound.
>Heil no longer makes it, but I believe it uses similar circuitry.
>
>
>
>My default setting is at 1 out of 5, and this cleans up the harsh noise very
>nicely without noticeable audio degradation.
>
>
>
>When the noise gets really bad, I have used it all the way up to 5, and
>still don't find the audio objectionable.
>
>
>
>I also have not had a lot of success with the K3 built in NR, but this is
>probably due to my lack of understanding how to use it; but since the Clear
>Speech works so well, I take the lazy way out.
>
>
>
>If there's any good updated info on how to use the NR effectively, I'd be
>all ears. Maybe someone who really has it working well can do a YouTube?
>
>
>
>My 2 cents.
>
>
>
>Ron
>
>KB6G
>
>K3 S/N 1997
>
>
>
>P.S. I still give the K3 a 5+
>
>

Fred Smith-2

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

Once I finally learned how to use it works very well, but it is "NOT" a
1-2-3 press for NR like many. With the K3 you can really customize it for
each and every type you encounter, like all things it could be
better..........

I'm still waiting on the "PERFECT RADIO" a K4 maybe 8>)

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Allen Brier N5XZ
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 12:03 PM
To: [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

Now that's something that Elecraft needs to work on, thier internal noise
reduction system. I find it almost useless, and I've tried it many times
with many settings.

Allen N5XZ

-----Original Message-----

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>for ~ 5 years. It has a 5 position noise control and I usually leave it at
>1, which knocks down the noise without any negative effects on the sound.
>Heil no longer makes it, but I believe it uses similar circuitry.
>
>
>
>My default setting is at 1 out of 5, and this cleans up the harsh noise
very

>nicely without noticeable audio degradation.
>
>
>
>When the noise gets really bad, I have used it all the way up to 5, and
>still don't find the audio objectionable.
>
>
>
>I also have not had a lot of success with the K3 built in NR, but this is
>probably due to my lack of understanding how to use it; but since the Clear
>Speech works so well, I take the lazy way out.
>
>
>
>If there's any good updated info on how to use the NR effectively, I'd be
>all ears. Maybe someone who really has it working well can do a YouTube?
>
>
>
>My 2 cents.
>
>
>
>Ron
>
>KB6G
>
>K3 S/N 1997
>
>
>
>P.S. I still give the K3 a 5+
>
>

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Dave Hachadorian-2

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

In reply to this post by Allen Brier N5XZ

Allen's comment matches my experience exactly.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Brier N5XZ
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 10:02 AM
To: [hidden email] ; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

Now that's something that Elecraft needs to work on, thier
internal noise reduction system. I find it almost useless, and
I've tried it many times with many settings.

Allen N5XZ

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Allen Brier N5XZ

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

In reply to this post by Ron Midwin

1. K3 Noise reduction is next to useless
2. K3 Notch works great on SSB
3. K3 APF is occasionally useful (Elecraft needs to make the peak adjustable)
4. K3 Filtering is GREAT!

Allen N5XZ

-----Original Message-----

>From: Stephen Roberts <[hidden email]>
>Sent: Sep 3, 2013 12:14 PM
>To: Allen Brier N5XZ <[hidden email]>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker
>
>I have to say that I agree with you Allen. If there's one thing I'm very disappointed with, it's the noise reduction system in general. In my experience the noise reduction, notch and AFP functions are not of any use to me as a CW op. On the other hand, the narrow filter is amazing.
>
>Steve, W1SFR
>
>
>
>On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ wrote:
>
>> Now that's something that Elecraft needs to work on, thier internal noise reduction system. I find it almost useless, and I've tried it many times with many settings.
>>
>> Allen N5XZ
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [hidden email]
>>> Sent: Sep 3, 2013 11:00 AM
>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>
>>> Message: 10
>>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:48:14 -0700
>>> From: "Ron Midwin" <[hidden email]>
>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>> Cc: [hidden email]
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker
>>> Message-ID: <001601cea8b4$9eae5d50$dc0b17f0$@mo-rep.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> I've been using the Heil version of the Clear Speech Noise Reduction Speaker
>>> for ~ 5 years. It has a 5 position noise control and I usually leave it at
>>> 1, which knocks down the noise without any negative effects on the sound.
>>> Heil no longer makes it, but I believe it uses similar circuitry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My default setting is at 1 out of 5, and this cleans up the harsh noise very
>>> nicely without noticeable audio degradation.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When the noise gets really bad, I have used it all the way up to 5, and
>>> still don't find the audio objectionable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also have not had a lot of success with the K3 built in NR, but this is
>>> probably due to my lack of understanding how to use it; but since the Clear
>>> Speech works so well, I take the lazy way out.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If there's any good updated info on how to use the NR effectively, I'd be
>>> all ears. Maybe someone who really has it working well can do a YouTube?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My 2 cents.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron
>>>
>>> KB6G
>>>
>>> K3 S/N 1997
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> P.S. I still give the K3 a 5+
>>>
>>>
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mikerodgerske5gbc

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

In reply to this post by Ron Midwin

K3 NR-- it has been mentioned some time ago that 1 thru 4 were best for cw and 5 thru 8 were best for ssb, I don't know the truth to this but I do know that
on 6-20m ssb that 7-2 or 3 or 8-2 or 3 works very well but it can reduce speaker volume and especially headphone volume which I've resolved.

I've also noticed that with rf gain at 2 o'clock, turning agc off reduces noise. I'd be interested as to why this is so.

My interest is in digging weak signals out. I only go to 40 & 80 if I can't find anything on 6-20 or 60.

I've also got a gap hear it speaker I tried but rarely find it advantageous anymore for weak signal.

73
Mike R
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Keith Heimbold

Re: K3 using Clear Speech Speaker

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I do wish the K3 NR was better but for all the negatives I do use it on 40 & 80 with some success on 7-1 and 7-2. It is not totally useless for me. It would be the one thing I would like Elecraft to improve if it was possible.

I absolutely love the K3 APF for weak signal CW work especially on 6m. Without it I would have not worked JA on 6m this past SSSP season.

I use notch sparingly but it does work ok for me on SSB as noted below.

Filtering...well it is extra special in that department and probably a major reason we own K3s.

Keith
AK6ZZ

Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos

On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:26 AM, "Allen Brier N5XZ" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 1. K3 Noise reduction is next to useless
> 2. K3 Notch works great on SSB
> 3. K3 APF is occasionally useful (Elecraft needs to make the peak adjustable)
> 4. K3 Filtering is GREAT!
>
> Allen N5XZ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Stephen Roberts <[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Sep 3, 2013 12:14 PM
>> To: Allen Brier N5XZ <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker
>>
>> I have to say that I agree with you Allen. If there's one thing I'm very disappointed with, it's the noise reduction system in general. In my experience the noise reduction, notch and AFP functions are not of any use to me as a CW op. On the other hand, the narrow filter is amazing.
>>
>> Steve, W1SFR
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 1:02 PM, Allen Brier N5XZ wrote:
>>
>>> Now that's something that Elecraft needs to work on, thier internal noise reduction system. I find it almost useless, and I've tried it many times with many settings.
>>>
>>> Allen N5XZ
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [hidden email]
>>>> Sent: Sep 3, 2013 11:00 AM
>>>> To: [hidden email]
>>>>
>>>> Message: 10
>>>> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 07:48:14 -0700
>>>> From: "Ron Midwin" <[hidden email]>
>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>> Cc: [hidden email]
>>>> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 using Clear Speech Speaker
>>>> Message-ID: <001601cea8b4$9eae5d50$dc0b17f0$@mo-rep.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> I've been using the Heil version of the Clear Speech Noise Reduction Speaker
>>>> for ~ 5 years. It has a 5 position noise control and I usually leave it at
>>>> 1, which knocks down the noise without any negative effects on the sound.
>>>> Heil no longer makes it, but I believe it uses similar circuitry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My default setting is at 1 out of 5, and this cleans up the harsh noise very
>>>> nicely without noticeable audio degradation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When the noise gets really bad, I have used it all the way up to 5, and
>>>> still don't find the audio objectionable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also have not had a lot of success with the K3 built in NR, but this is
>>>> probably due to my lack of understanding how to use it; but since the Clear
>>>> Speech works so well, I take the lazy way out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If there's any good updated info on how to use the NR effectively, I'd be
>>>> all ears. Maybe someone who really has it working well can do a YouTube?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My 2 cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ron
>>>>
>>>> KB6G
>>>>
>>>> K3 S/N 1997
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I still give the K3 a 5+
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