K3 - v2.02
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I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the following: Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. Now it is. The ALC element of this display shows six units of "ALC" at any power level when keyed. I guess it isn't supposed to be that way. I was caught out with this display when changing from 30M CW to 20M where the K3 was on SSB last time I used it, changed to CW and the CMP/ALC display stayed active instead of automatically reverting to SWR/RF. Had me wondering what was going on for a few seconds. Doesn't make sense to have an irrelevant display option active. Regards, Mike VP8NO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the
> following: > > Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. > Now it is. From firwmare release 1.99/1.76, the external ALC input has been activated. The ALC display mode must therefore be available in all modes so you can see if you are overdriving your amplifier, transverter or whatever else you may have attached tot he K3 that might develop ALC voltage. NOTE: DO NOT connect external ALC voltage to your K3 until you have performed the appropriate hardware modification! Details for this will be posted to the website. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:14:24 -0400, "Mike Harris" <[hidden email]>
wrote: >Good day, > >I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the >following: > >Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. >Now it is. The ALC element of this display shows six units of "ALC" at >any power level when keyed. I guess it isn't supposed to be that way. > >I was caught out with this display when changing from 30M CW to 20M where >the K3 was on SSB last time I used it, changed to CW and the CMP/ALC >display stayed active instead of automatically reverting to SWR/RF. Had >me wondering what was going on for a few seconds. > >Doesn't make sense to have an irrelevant display option active. > >Regards, > >Mike VP8NO > Seems logical to me. If you are using ALC to control your amp drive it might be beneficial to see the rig's ALC action on CW. I suspect without an amp ALC line connected the ALC is telling you the rig is transmitting at the power you set it at and not being controlled by another device. That's what I think, but I could be wrong... Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety deserve neither Liberty nor Safety" An excerpt from a letter written in 1755 from the Assembly to the Governor of Pennsylvania. Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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G'day,
OK, just something to unlearn and extra buttons to press. Maybe it could be turned off if not required. Regards, Mike VP8NO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyle Johnson" <[hidden email]> To: "Mike Harris" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]>; "wayne burdick" <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - v2.02 |> I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the | > following: | > | > Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. | > Now it is. | | From firwmare release 1.99/1.76, the external ALC input has been activated. | | The ALC display mode must therefore be available in all modes so you can | see if you are overdriving your amplifier, transverter or whatever else | you may have attached tot he K3 that might develop ALC voltage. | | NOTE: DO NOT connect external ALC voltage to your K3 until you have | performed the appropriate hardware modification! Details for this will | be posted to the website. | | 73, | | Lyle KK7P | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1501 - Release Date: 13/06/2008 06:33 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Childers, N5GE" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - v2.02 On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:14:24 -0400, "Mike Harris" <[hidden email]> wrote: >Good day, > >I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the >following: > >Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. >Now it is. The ALC element of this display shows six units of "ALC" at >any power level when keyed. I guess it isn't supposed to be that way. > >I was caught out with this display when changing from 30M CW to 20M where >the K3 was on SSB last time I used it, changed to CW and the CMP/ALC >display stayed active instead of automatically reverting to SWR/RF. Had >me wondering what was going on for a few seconds. > >Doesn't make sense to have an irrelevant display option active. > >Regards, > >Mike VP8NO > Seems logical to me. If you are using ALC to control your amp drive it might be beneficial to see the rig's ALC action on CW. I suspect without an amp ALC line connected the ALC is telling you the rig is transmitting at the power you set it at and not being controlled by another device. That's what I think, but I could be wrong... Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq <snip> I thought it was advised not to control the amp drive with the ALC, particularly on SSB. The ALC indication going full scale at any power level doesn't tell anything about what power you requested. I suspect that more than a few don't us an amp and thus this isn't required. However, as in my previous post it's just another operational configuration which needs to be remembered to set up with mode changes. Regards, Mike VP8NO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks for catching this, Mike. I thought we were switching back to
RF/SWR metering in CW modes automatically if CONFIG:EXT ALC was set to OFF. Wayne N6KR > > |> I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice > the > | > following: > | > > | > Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW > mode. > | > Now it is. > | --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Anybody have the band data cable working? I carefully wired mine up
but no go. Sure would be nice to KNOW it can be made to work. Jerry W4UK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Could this be a menu item so we can enable/disable? It seems a bit
confusing because of the display. Stan W5EWA Houston, TX K2/100 SN 4216 K3/100 SN 0690 Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:14:24 -0400, "Mike Harris" <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > >> Good day, >> >> I upgraded my firmware to v2.02 Friday (13th!) night and now notice the >> following: >> >> Previously the CMP and ALC display option was not available in CW mode. >> Now it is. The ALC element of this display shows six units of "ALC" at >> any power level when keyed. I guess it isn't supposed to be that way. >> >> I was caught out with this display when changing from 30M CW to 20M where >> the K3 was on SSB last time I used it, changed to CW and the CMP/ALC >> display stayed active instead of automatically reverting to SWR/RF. Had >> me wondering what was going on for a few seconds. >> >> Doesn't make sense to have an irrelevant display option active. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mike VP8NO >> >> > [snip] > > Seems logical to me. If you are using ALC to control your amp drive it might be > beneficial to see the rig's ALC action on CW. I suspect without an amp ALC line > connected the ALC is telling you the rig is transmitting at the power you set it > at and not being controlled by another device. > > That's what I think, but I could be wrong... > > Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq > > "Those who would give up > Essential Liberty to > purchase a little Temporary > Safety deserve neither > Liberty nor Safety" > > An excerpt from a letter > written in 1755 from the > Assembly to the Governor > of Pennsylvania. > > Support the entire Constitution, not > just the parts you like. > > http://www.n5ge.com > http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Jerry, How did you wire your interface? Did you use "Band Data 1" (DIN8/262) or "Band Data 2" (DB15) on the Quadra? What are the symptoms ("No go")? Remember, the pin numbering on "Band Data 1" (DIN8/262) is different than the standard DIN8 - pin 6 on the standard connector is pin 7 ("D") on the 262, pin 7 on the standard is 8 (inhibit) on the 262, and pin 8 on the standard is 6 ("C") on the 262 My Quadra is still in storage ... I have not hooked it up yet but may cobble together a cable this week to try it. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:30 PM > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Quadra amp > > > Anybody have the band data cable working? I carefully wired mine up > but no go. Sure would be nice to KNOW it can be made to work. > > Jerry W4UK > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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According to the schematics, the Quadra does not have the internal
pullups like the FL-7000 does (the FL-7000 is known to work with the K3) . I finally got out my Quadra tech supplement during a lull in yesterday's RTTY contest and and traced out the band data lines. No pullups, and the schematic even shows "test point" 0 volts is present on all. This morning I verified 0 volts on all the band data lines from the Quadra with my meter. In contrast, the FL-7000 schematic ( http://www.n4ats.com/downloads/FL7000_Schematic.pdfclearly ) shows 10K pullups to a +5 volt regulator. At least one guy has his FL-7000 working, and this might explain it. I just ordered one DB15HD breakout board ( http://www.winfordeng.com/products/brk15hd.php ) and will make up a new cable with pullups. My first attempt was just connector to connector through 2 ft of 8 conductor cat-5 cable, and there is simply not enough space inside those connectors to build a pullup circuit, I think. That breakout board should give enough space for all I need, including the FSK line and ALC. It also has screw terminals, which should make it somewhat easier to patch it all together. Dimensions are in question - the board is wider than I have clear space for at the back of the K3, and I may have to trim off a portion of the board to clear the nearby DB9 socket. It should be here Wednesday/Thursday, and I will report again when I check the fit and get it wired up. If it fits, it looks like a good solution to the problem of connecting up to all those dozen or so pins in the DB15HD that I need. It is a little pricey at $16 + 5.50 shipping. Jerry W4UK At 02:39 AM 6/16/2008, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >Jerry, > >How did you wire your interface? > >Did you use "Band Data 1" (DIN8/262) or "Band Data 2" (DB15) >on the Quadra? > >What are the symptoms ("No go")? > > >Remember, the pin numbering on "Band Data 1" (DIN8/262) is >different than the standard DIN8 - pin 6 on the standard >connector is pin 7 ("D") on the 262, pin 7 on the standard >is 8 (inhibit) on the 262, and pin 8 on the standard is 6 >("C") on the 262 > >My Quadra is still in storage ... I have not hooked it up >yet but may cobble together a cable this week to try it. > >73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders > > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:30 PM > > To: [hidden email] > > Cc: [hidden email] > > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Quadra amp > > > > > > Anybody have the band data cable working? I carefully wired mine up > > but no go. Sure would be nice to KNOW it can be made to work. > > > > Jerry W4UK > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: [hidden email] > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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