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K3 w/microHam w/HRD?

CX7TT
Hola,
Need some help setting up the K3 with microKeyer and HRD. I have the K3
cable (from microHam) going to the MK and then have the Mic cable going
to the mic input on the laptop; the soundcard 'out' on the MK goes to
the headphone jack on the laptop. I have the Com ports configured
according to the MK guide. Com 1 = K3; Com 2=FSK (ptt checked); Com4=CW;
Com5=Control (for Win-Test); Com 7= Winkey; Com 8= PTT. I have tested
this configuration and it works FB with N1MM and WinTest on SSB and CW.
For everyday use and logging, I use HRD. HRD recognizes the K3 with freq
readouts and seems to work OK. The problem I have is with the Digital
Master 780. I do not get any signals on the waterfall or monitor. I have
selected the laptop's sound card and still nothing. Even more baffling
is when I 'click' on 'CQ' the computer sends the characters but the K3
only keys up with a steady tone, telling me that the characters are NOT
getting to the K3 even though the PTT has activated xmit. I have tried
using Rtty, BPSK and keyboard CW; none seem to work. I went to the FAQs
and came up with the following for 'No sigs':

No Signals
If you do not see any signals in the waterfall then follow the steps below:

Soundcard
Make sure you have selected the correct soundcard. To select the
soundcard wither:

 From the Tools menu select Program Options, then the Soundcard page, or
 From the View menu select Soundcard, then press Options.
Make sure the correct soundcard is selected along with the input source.
For some soundcards such as the M-Audio Delta 44 and SignaLink USB you
will not see a Source. Do not worry - if a source is not displayed this
is because there is only one input source and no way of adjusting the
input level, it is fixed.

Set the default sample rate to 48 kHz - if not supported DM780 falls
back to 8 kHz.

Changes are applied immediately, look in the Logfile for any errors. If
the soundcard can be started correctly you will see text similar to:

09:21:35 Sound Thread: *** Start Input ***
09:21:35 Sound Thread: Opening Creative Sound Blaster PCI (device ID 2)
09:21:35 Sound Thread: Frequency .....: 48kHz
09:21:35 Sound Thread: Buffer size ...: 24576
09:21:35 Sound Thread: Oversampling ..: On

*/And 'yes' I did get the above Logfile.../.
*

If you see text similar to the above then you have opened the soundcard
for receive. If you still do not see any signals in the waterfall:

Look at the soundcard, identify the input source where you have
connected your interface. This will usually be Line In (it is better the
use Line In rather than Microphone as Line In will have a flat frequency
response).
In the Soundcard pane (select Soundcard from the View menu) select (*)
RX at the bottom of the pane and  make sure that the input source is
selected - look at the Select button at the top of the pane - this will
be depressed.
The input source level is adjusted with the slider - make sure this is
not set to zero.
The Signal Level indicator will show a value greater than zero. You
don't need a very strong signal, pretty well anything will do, a value
of just 20 is absolutely fine.
If the input source is selected, the input slider and the signal level
stays at zero then you are not supplying a signal to the soundcard. Try
connecting a microphone or some headphone to the input connector on the
soundcard. If this produces some noise on the waterfall - anything -
then the problem is the interface between the PC and radio.

/*Tried all of this...moving cable from "mic" on back of MK to Soundcard
"IN". Still no signals nor xmit, other than keying the K3 in RTTY or BPSK.*/

I do not think there is anything wrong with the MK as I used it
previously with O II and MMTTY. I have spent about 6 hours fussing with
this and going on line to read HRD/MK guides and K3 manual.
Is there any suggestions on what maybe I have missed?

Tnx & 73
Tom
CX7TT
 
 

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RE: K3 w/microHam w/HRD?

Joe Subich, W4TV-3

Tom,

> I have tested this configuration and it works FB with N1MM
> and WinTest on SSB and CW.

Have you checked RTTY in N1MM Logger?

> I have the K3 cable (from microHam) going to the MK and then
> have the Mic cable going to the mic input on the laptop;

To receive digital audio you need the cable going from the
"Soundcard In" jack of microKEYER to the "mic in" jack on
the computer.  The "soundcard "mic" jack routes the microphone
through the soundcard for DVK operation.  

> I do not get any signals on the waterfall or monitor. I have
> selected the laptop's sound card and still nothing.

You won't since you're not getting Line Out audio to the
computer.  Connect the computer "mic in" to the "Soundcard In"
jack on the microKEYER.

> Even more baffling is when I 'click' on 'CQ' the computer
> sends the characters but the K3 only keys up with a steady
> tone, telling me that the characters are NOT getting to the
> K3 even though the PTT has activated xmit.

You're probably using FSK D instead of AFSK A or DATA A.  DM780
does not support FSK.  

73,

   ... Joe Subich, W4TV
       microHAM America
       http://www.microHAM-USA.com 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
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> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:35 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 w/microHam w/HRD?
>
>
> Hola,
> Need some help setting up the K3 with microKeyer and HRD. I
> have the K3
> cable (from microHam) going to the MK and then have the Mic
> cable going
> to the mic input on the laptop; the soundcard 'out' on the MK goes to
> the headphone jack on the laptop. I have the Com ports configured
> according to the MK guide. Com 1 = K3; Com 2=FSK (ptt
> checked); Com4=CW;
> Com5=Control (for Win-Test); Com 7= Winkey; Com 8= PTT. I have tested
> this configuration and it works FB with N1MM and WinTest on
> SSB and CW.
> For everyday use and logging, I use HRD. HRD recognizes the
> K3 with freq
> readouts and seems to work OK. The problem I have is with the Digital
> Master 780. I do not get any signals on the waterfall or
> monitor. I have
> selected the laptop's sound card and still nothing. Even more
> baffling
> is when I 'click' on 'CQ' the computer sends the characters
> but the K3
> only keys up with a steady tone, telling me that the
> characters are NOT
> getting to the K3 even though the PTT has activated xmit. I
> have tried
> using Rtty, BPSK and keyboard CW; none seem to work. I went
> to the FAQs
> and came up with the following for 'No sigs':
>
> No Signals
> If you do not see any signals in the waterfall then follow
> the steps below:
>
> Soundcard
> Make sure you have selected the correct soundcard. To select the
> soundcard wither:
>
>  From the Tools menu select Program Options, then the
> Soundcard page, or  From the View menu select Soundcard, then
> press Options. Make sure the correct soundcard is selected
> along with the input source.
> For some soundcards such as the M-Audio Delta 44 and
> SignaLink USB you
> will not see a Source. Do not worry - if a source is not
> displayed this
> is because there is only one input source and no way of adjusting the
> input level, it is fixed.
>
> Set the default sample rate to 48 kHz - if not supported DM780 falls
> back to 8 kHz.
>
> Changes are applied immediately, look in the Logfile for any
> errors. If
> the soundcard can be started correctly you will see text similar to:
>
> 09:21:35 Sound Thread: *** Start Input ***
> 09:21:35 Sound Thread: Opening Creative Sound Blaster PCI
> (device ID 2) 09:21:35 Sound Thread: Frequency .....: 48kHz
> 09:21:35 Sound Thread: Buffer size ...: 24576 09:21:35 Sound
> Thread: Oversampling ..: On
>
> */And 'yes' I did get the above Logfile.../.
> *
>
> If you see text similar to the above then you have opened the
> soundcard
> for receive. If you still do not see any signals in the waterfall:
>
> Look at the soundcard, identify the input source where you have
> connected your interface. This will usually be Line In (it is
> better the
> use Line In rather than Microphone as Line In will have a
> flat frequency
> response).
> In the Soundcard pane (select Soundcard from the View menu)
> select (*)
> RX at the bottom of the pane and  make sure that the input source is
> selected - look at the Select button at the top of the pane -
> this will
> be depressed.
> The input source level is adjusted with the slider - make
> sure this is
> not set to zero.
> The Signal Level indicator will show a value greater than zero. You
> don't need a very strong signal, pretty well anything will
> do, a value
> of just 20 is absolutely fine.
> If the input source is selected, the input slider and the
> signal level
> stays at zero then you are not supplying a signal to the
> soundcard. Try
> connecting a microphone or some headphone to the input
> connector on the
> soundcard. If this produces some noise on the waterfall - anything -
> then the problem is the interface between the PC and radio.
>
> /*Tried all of this...moving cable from "mic" on back of MK
> to Soundcard
> "IN". Still no signals nor xmit, other than keying the K3 in
> RTTY or BPSK.*/
>
> I do not think there is anything wrong with the MK as I used it
> previously with O II and MMTTY. I have spent about 6 hours
> fussing with
> this and going on line to read HRD/MK guides and K3 manual.
> Is there any suggestions on what maybe I have missed?
>
> Tnx & 73
> Tom
> CX7TT
>  
>  
>
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