K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode
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Had a weird problem that I had not seen before this past weekend Was using
the K3 with N1MM+. About a quarter of the time when I clicked on a callout in the N1MM+ Bandmap the K3 would go into SPLIT mode. Anyone else see something like this? Not sure if this is a unique condition I am seeing. The N1MM+ folks say they have not heard of such an issue. Tnx for any feedback N2TK, Tony ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Tony,
It sounds like the software is operating correctly. On the spots that you clicked on and the K3 went into Split mode, were the spotted stations actually operating split? This can also happen if the spotting station is in split mode when the spot is sent to packet. You can prove this to yourself. Type a call into the call sign field of the Entry window. Put the K3 in split mode with the sub vfo a kHz or two away. Now just tune the main vfo away and watch the self-spot go into the bandmap. Take the K3 out of split mode. Use Ctrl+Up or Dn arrow and jump back to that spot. The K3 will go back into Split mode with the same offset as when you spotted it. Similarly, if the radio is in the split mode and you click on a non-split spot, it will cancel the split on the radio. HTH. 73, Ted W4NZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:20 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode Had a weird problem that I had not seen before this past weekend Was using the K3 with N1MM+. About a quarter of the time when I clicked on a callout in the N1MM+ Bandmap the K3 would go into SPLIT mode. Anyone else see something like this? Not sure if this is a unique condition I am seeing. The N1MM+ folks say they have not heard of such an issue. Tnx for any feedback N2TK, Tony ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hi Ted,
All of the stations that I clicked on the bandmap were operating transceiver. After a while I was paying more attention to the issue. I think I only worked one station that was split. I had never seen this happen before. For ARRL SSB will swap K3's to see if the problem is still there. Yes, I had tried the example below and I go the same result. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Ted Bryant [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:54 PM To: 'N2TK, Tony' <[hidden email]>; 'Elecraft Reflector' <[hidden email]> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode Tony, It sounds like the software is operating correctly. On the spots that you clicked on and the K3 went into Split mode, were the spotted stations actually operating split? This can also happen if the spotting station is in split mode when the spot is sent to packet. You can prove this to yourself. Type a call into the call sign field of the Entry window. Put the K3 in split mode with the sub vfo a kHz or two away. Now just tune the main vfo away and watch the self-spot go into the bandmap. Take the K3 out of split mode. Use Ctrl+Up or Dn arrow and jump back to that spot. The K3 will go back into Split mode with the same offset as when you spotted it. Similarly, if the radio is in the split mode and you click on a non-split spot, it will cancel the split on the radio. HTH. 73, Ted W4NZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:20 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode Had a weird problem that I had not seen before this past weekend Was using the K3 with N1MM+. About a quarter of the time when I clicked on a callout in the N1MM+ Bandmap the K3 would go into SPLIT mode. Anyone else see something like this? Not sure if this is a unique condition I am seeing. The N1MM+ folks say they have not heard of such an issue. Tnx for any feedback N2TK, Tony ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I think what counts is not the way the target station is operating but
rather the way the spotter station is operating. If the spotter had Split engaged, for example to dither its calling frequency in order to stand out in the pileup, then the spot may specify split and cause your symptom, even though the DX station is operating simplex on a single freq. This won't happen all the time - it's a complex interaction among the spotter's rig, operating mode, logging software, Telnet interface, and your Telnet interface, rig, logging software, and settings. I don't think there is anything you can do about it except be aware. (Or maybe you can convince all the hams in the contest to use RIT/XIT/CLAR instead of Split when calling a simplex pileup? Good luck! And RIT/XIT/CLAR can provoke some frequency anomalies of their own.) 73, /Rick N6XI Rick Tavan Truckee, CA On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:26 PM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Ted, > All of the stations that I clicked on the bandmap were operating > transceiver. After a while I was paying more attention to the issue. I > think > I only worked one station that was split. > I had never seen this happen before. For ARRL SSB will swap K3's to see if > the problem is still there. > > Yes, I had tried the example below and I go the same result. > > 73, > N2TK, Tony > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ted Bryant [mailto:[hidden email]] > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:54 PM > To: 'N2TK, Tony' <[hidden email]>; 'Elecraft Reflector' > <[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode > > Tony, > > It sounds like the software is operating correctly. > > On the spots that you clicked on and the K3 went into Split mode, were the > spotted stations actually operating split? > > This can also happen if the spotting station is in split mode when the spot > is sent to packet. You can prove this to yourself. Type a call into the > call sign field of the Entry window. Put the K3 in split mode with the sub > vfo a kHz or two away. Now just tune the main vfo away and watch the > self-spot go into the bandmap. Take the K3 out of split mode. Use > Ctrl+Up > or Dn arrow and jump back to that spot. The K3 will go back into Split > mode with the same offset as when you spotted it. > > Similarly, if the radio is in the split mode and you click on a non-split > spot, it will cancel the split on the radio. > > HTH. > > 73, Ted W4NZ > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony > Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:20 PM > To: 'Elecraft Reflector' > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode > > Had a weird problem that I had not seen before this past weekend Was using > the K3 with N1MM+. About a quarter of the time when I clicked on a callout > in the N1MM+ Bandmap the K3 would go into SPLIT mode. Anyone else see > something like this? > > Not sure if this is a unique condition I am seeing. The N1MM+ folks say > they > have not heard of such an issue. > > > > Tnx for any feedback > > N2TK, Tony > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Rick,
Good input on the RIT/XIT/CLR info. I may have had the XIT on as I find in large pileups it pays to be offset a little. I will check that to see if it had an impact on going SPLIT when I selected a call in the N1MM+ Bandmap. 73, N2TK, Tony From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick Tavan Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:26 PM To: N2TK, Tony <[hidden email]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode I think what counts is not the way the target station is operating but rather the way the spotter station is operating. If the spotter had Split engaged, for example to dither its calling frequency in order to stand out in the pileup, then the spot may specify split and cause your symptom, even though the DX station is operating simplex on a single freq. This won't happen all the time - it's a complex interaction among the spotter's rig, operating mode, logging software, Telnet interface, and your Telnet interface, rig, logging software, and settings. I don't think there is anything you can do about it except be aware. (Or maybe you can convince all the hams in the contest to use RIT/XIT/CLAR instead of Split when calling a simplex pileup? Good luck! And RIT/XIT/CLAR can provoke some frequency anomalies of their own.) 73, /Rick N6XI Rick Tavan Truckee, CA On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 3:26 PM, N2TK, Tony <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > wrote: Hi Ted, All of the stations that I clicked on the bandmap were operating transceiver. After a while I was paying more attention to the issue. I think I only worked one station that was split. I had never seen this happen before. For ARRL SSB will swap K3's to see if the problem is still there. Yes, I had tried the example below and I go the same result. 73, N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: Ted Bryant [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> ] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 3:54 PM To: 'N2TK, Tony' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> >; 'Elecraft Reflector' <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode Tony, It sounds like the software is operating correctly. On the spots that you clicked on and the K3 went into Split mode, were the spotted stations actually operating split? This can also happen if the spotting station is in split mode when the spot is sent to packet. You can prove this to yourself. Type a call into the call sign field of the Entry window. Put the K3 in split mode with the sub vfo a kHz or two away. Now just tune the main vfo away and watch the self-spot go into the bandmap. Take the K3 out of split mode. Use Ctrl+Up or Dn arrow and jump back to that spot. The K3 will go back into Split mode with the same offset as when you spotted it. Similarly, if the radio is in the split mode and you click on a non-split spot, it will cancel the split on the radio. HTH. 73, Ted W4NZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> [mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> ] On Behalf Of N2TK, Tony Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:20 PM To: 'Elecraft Reflector' Subject: [Elecraft] K3 with N1MM - SPLIT mode Had a weird problem that I had not seen before this past weekend Was using the K3 with N1MM+. About a quarter of the time when I clicked on a callout in the N1MM+ Bandmap the K3 would go into SPLIT mode. Anyone else see something like this? Not sure if this is a unique condition I am seeing. The N1MM+ folks say they have not heard of such an issue. Tnx for any feedback N2TK, Tony ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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