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John Ragle

K3 won't PTT in data...

This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine, &
(b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
LSB) without gyrations.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode.

My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the
back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to
reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig.

Am I missing something?

Mike, NF4L

On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:

> This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> LSB) without gyrations.
>
> John Ragle -- W1ZI
>
> --
>
> Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420
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Thomas Horsten

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and
ignores the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any
input on the Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should
work 100%.

Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface
like SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound
card, but there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to
the PC with standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter,
and use soft-keying (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent
digimode programs), this also gives you full rig control...

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in
> Data mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged
> into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high
> enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and
> keys the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> > LSB) without gyrations.
> >
> > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420
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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no
interface, that was the OP, not me.

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

> I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores
> the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the
> Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
>
> Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like
> SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but
> there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with
> standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use soft-keying
> (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also
> gives you full rig control...
>
> 73, Thomas M0TRN
>
> On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys
> the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the server...(a) the
> > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just fine,&
> > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display to
> > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the transmit
> > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just press
> > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself in the
> > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the band
> > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I used
> > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2 before
> > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super program
> > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even talk to
> > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe (using
> > LSB) without gyrations.
> >
> > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> >
> > --
> >
> > Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

After some nudges from the community prompted me to experiment further, I changed MIC
SEL from MIC+LIN to rP.H ant turned MIC+LIN on. That seems to have fixed it.

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/26/2012 9:48 AM, Mike wrote:
> I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in Data mode.
>
> My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic, plugged into the
> back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high enough to
> reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys the rig.
>
> Am I missing something?
>
> Mike, NF4L

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Thomas Horsten

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

In reply to this post by Mike Reublin

Mike,

While in data mode, press Menu, dial to "MIC SEL", ensure it's set to "Line
In" not "RPL" or "FPL" (right or front panel), now the mic should
definitely not be live and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem
with your rig and it needs to be fixed before you use data modes again.

The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB.

No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX
whilst in data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be
appalling, you'd be putting background noise splatter in the PSK31
passband, for example!

73, Thomas

On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I
> have no
> interface, that was the OP, not me.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> > I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal
> and ignores
> > the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input
> on the
> > Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
> >
> > Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface
> like
> > SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound
> card, but
> > there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC
> with
> > standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use
> soft-keying
> > (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs),
> this also
> > gives you full rig control...
> >
> > 73, Thomas M0TRN
> >
> > On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>
> wrote:
> >
> > I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the
> K3 in Data mode.
> >
> > My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic,
> plugged into the
> > back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain
> high enough to
> > reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic
> and keys
> > the rig.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Mike, NF4L
> >
> > On 1/26/2012 8:47 AM, John Ragle wrote:
> > > This is a subject that has been aired many times on the
> server...(a) the
> > > combination you are using (which is the same as mine) works just
> fine,&
> > > (b) you must be sure the K3 is IN VOX mode -- examine the display
> to
> > > make sure that VOX shows above the AGC entry to the mid-left of the
> > > screen. If it does not, the SignaLink will not work (i.e. the
> transmit
> > > lite will come on but you wiull get no action from the K3. Just
> press
> > > and hold the BAND DOWN side of the band button. I have put myself
> in the
> > > condition you describe numerous times by leaning too long on the
> band
> > > button. Ignore those who tell you to dump the SignaLink...it is an
> > > outstanding piece of hardware...I have two of them, one of which I
> used
> > > on an ICOM 910H and the other which I use on my K3 and on my K2
> before
> > > it. You can use it with the K3 set on sideband, and with a super
> program
> > > like FLDIGI it works extremely well with RTTY and the myriad other
> > > digital modes. Its ability to work with SSB means you can even
> talk to
> > > the "upside-down" RTTY people on 10 meters from eastern Europe
> (using
> > > LSB) without gyrations.
> > >
> > > John Ragle -- W1ZI
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Sent from my lovely old Dell XPS 420
> > > ______________________________________________________________
> > > Elecraft mailing list
> > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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Mike Reublin

Re: K3 won't PTT in data...

Got it, Thomas. For some long forgotten reason I had MIC SEL set to MIC+LIN. DOH!

73, Mike NF4L

On 1/27/2012 4:04 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:

> Mike,
>
> While in data mode, press Menu, dial to "MIC SEL", ensure it's set to "Line In" not
> "RPL" or "FPL" (right or front panel), now the mic should definitely not be live
> and if it is (and triggers VOX), you have a problem with your rig and it needs to
> be fixed before you use data modes again.
>
> The selection is remembered separately for the DATA modes and SSB.
>
> No matter how loud I scream into the microphone I cannot activate VOX whilst in
> data mode. If the mic was live in data mode it would be appalling, you'd be putting
> background noise splatter in the PSK31 passband, for example!
>
> 73, Thomas
>
> On 26 January 2012 19:15, Mike <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
> Data|AFSK A uses SSB mode internally, so the mic is live, I suppose. I have no
> interface, that was the OP, not me.
>
> 73, Mike NF4L
>
> On 1/26/2012 9:53 AM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
> > I don't get it, when you are in DATA mode it takes the Line In signal and ignores
> > the microphone input if you've configured the rig correctly, any input on the
> > Microphone line should be completely ignored and VOX should work 100%.
> >
> > Still, on the K3 there is absolutely no need for any external interface like
> > SignaLink (unless you just want to use it for it's built in USB sound card, but
> > there are many cheaper options available), just hook up the K3 to the PC with
> > standard audio cables and a serial cable/USB-serial converter, and use
> soft-keying
> > (available with fldigi and hopefully other decent digimode programs), this also
> > gives you full rig control...
> >
> > 73, Thomas M0TRN
> >
> > On 26 January 2012 14:48, Mike <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>
> <mailto:[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>>> wrote:
> >
> > I have an ongoing, long standing problem with using VOX to key the K3 in
> Data mode.
> >
> > My sound card is a Creative USB dongle. I use a CM500 headset/mic,
> plugged into the
> > back panel. If I get the mix of volume, line in level and VOX gain high
> enough to
> > reliably key the rig, the smallest noise in the room gets to the mic and keys
> > the rig.
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Mike, NF4L
> >
>