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K3S AGC action in CW

Roger-3
Hi,

when operating the K3S in CW mode I found there is no difference in
switching between AGC-F(ast) and AGC-S(slow). It seems the "default" setting
is on slow and does not go to fast (compared to the decay characteristic in
SSB).
The manual explains that the AGC Fast/Slow response should also be effective
in CW.

Can anyone confirm this behavior (or not)?

Firmware version is 5.66 (actually supposed to be 5.67 with the "label" of
the previous version).

73/Roger - DL5RBW


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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Roy Koeppe
Roger,


My K3s AGC works as expected -- goodluck.

73,   Roy   K6XK



> Hi,
>
> when operating the K3S in CW mode I found there is no difference in
> switching between AGC-F(ast) and AGC-S(slow). It seems the "default" setting
> is on slow and does not go to fast (compared to the decay characteristic in
> SSB).
> The manual explains that the AGC Fast/Slow response should also be effective
> in CW.
>
> Can anyone confirm this behavior (or not)?
>
> Firmware version is 5.66 (actually supposed to be 5.67 with the "label" of
> the previous version).
>
> 73/Roger - DL5RBW
>
>
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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Ken Wagner K3IU
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There are numerous AGC adjustments available in the CONFIG
menu. You can probably find something to suit you there.
73, Ken K3IU
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On 7/19/2019 4:14 AM, Roger wrote:

> Hi,
>
> when operating the K3S in CW mode I found there is no difference in
> switching between AGC-F(ast) and AGC-S(slow). It seems the "default" setting
> is on slow and does not go to fast (compared to the decay characteristic in
> SSB).
> The manual explains that the AGC Fast/Slow response should also be effective
> in CW.
>
> Can anyone confirm this behavior (or not)?
>
> Firmware version is 5.66 (actually supposed to be 5.67 with the "label" of
> the previous version).
>
> 73/Roger - DL5RBW
>
>
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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Roger-3

That was the first thing I did (including reading and rereading the manual) however changing the settings didn´t affect the AGC action in CW. The AGC settings are identical in all modes (default) therefore I would expect identical behavior in all modes. And in fact it does EXCEPT for CW. No matter whether AGC is set to fast or slow in CW it stays slow.

73/Roger - DL5RBW

-----Original Message-----
From: Ken K3IU [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 12:34 PM
To: Roger; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S AGC action in CW

There are numerous AGC adjustments available in the CONFIG menu. You can probably find something to suit you there.
73, Ken K3IU
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On 7/19/2019 4:14 AM, Roger wrote:

> Hi,
>
> when operating the K3S in CW mode I found there is no difference in
> switching between AGC-F(ast) and AGC-S(slow). It seems the "default"
> setting is on slow and does not go to fast (compared to the decay
> characteristic in SSB).
> The manual explains that the AGC Fast/Slow response should also be
> effective in CW.
>
> Can anyone confirm this behavior (or not)?
>
> Firmware version is 5.66 (actually supposed to be 5.67 with the
> "label" of the previous version).
>
> 73/Roger - DL5RBW
>
>
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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Roger-3
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Please ignore - problem solved!

73/Roger - DL5RBW




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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Frank Krozel
How was it resolved?
Frank

> On Jul 19, 2019, at 11:46 AM, Roger <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Please ignore - problem solved!
>
> 73/Roger - DL5RBW
>
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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Roger-3
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Alright I understand............. J

 

By browsing the firmware archive I found a pretty old firmware version announcing an the implementation of an independent AGC system whenever “CW Decode“ is enabled. I enabled this function a while ago to see how good it is compared to human ears and brain and being lazy I let it enabled. So if you enable CW Decode the AGC will be locked to what is “slow” (with the default values). Disabling CW Decode the radio returns to the regular AGC system and works as in all other modes.

 

Hope this helps someone else now or in the future………………..

 

73, Roger, DL5RBW

 

From: Dave Sublette [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2019 6:52 PM
To: Roger
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S AGC action in CW

 

No,no. You can't get off that easy. You must tell why the problem occurred and how it was solved.  😀

 

Dave K4TO

 

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019, 12:47 PM Roger <[hidden email]> wrote:

Please ignore - problem solved!

73/Roger - DL5RBW




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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Roger,

you would like to say that when I will enable CW decoder the AGC system
ignore all custom's settings and going to use default Slow AGC template
config? Somehow I don't want to believe it...






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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Don Wilhelm
Petr,

It does change to slow AGC, but any custom settings remain in place.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/22/2019 11:39 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote:
> Roger,
>
> you would like to say that when I will enable CW decoder the AGC system
> ignore all custom's settings and going to use default Slow AGC template
> config? Somehow I don't want to believe it...
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Re: K3S AGC action in CW

Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS
Hi Don,

aha, that's makes sense.
Thank you for explanation.

best regards,
Petr, OK1RP

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Petr,
>
> It does change to slow AGC, but any custom settings remain in place.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/22/2019 11:39 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote:
> > Roger,
> >
> > you would like to say that when I will enable CW decoder the AGC system
> > ignore all custom's settings and going to use default Slow AGC template
> > config? Somehow I don't want to believe it...
>

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