K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

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K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

LDZ
When I am using the K3S with an external transverter which uses the key out line to change from RX to TX i am finding that with a paddle input from my Winkeyer I cannot get the transverter to remain keyed. Adjusting the CW delay does not increase the time btween keying and the relay in the transverter clicking out.  So basically I get the relay clicking on every keyed letter.

I have dried full and semi break in with no difference.

I do not have the same situation on the KX3 , but then I am not using an external transverter, and wondered if there was another setting somewhere that I should be looking at.

2EØLDZ
Trevor Clapp
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Vic Rosenthal
Make sure VOX is turned ON on the K3S.

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
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On 15 May 2017 16:20, Trevor Clapp wrote:

> When I am using the K3S with an external transverter which uses the
> key out line to change from RX to TX i am finding that with a paddle
> input from my Winkeyer I cannot get the transverter to remain keyed.
> Adjusting the CW delay does not increase the time btween keying and
> the relay in the transverter clicking out.  So basically I get the
> relay clicking on every keyed letter.
>
> I have dried full and semi break in with no difference.
>
> I do not have the same situation on the KX3 , but then I am not using
> an external transverter, and wondered if there was another setting
> somewhere that I should be looking at.
>
> 2EØLDZ Trevor Clapp M. 07900 49 77 11
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Vic Rosenthal
I forgot to add: and make sure the KEY OUT line is connected to the
transverter, and the transverter is configured to use it. It seems like
the transverter is sensing RF rather than using the K3S Key Out line.


73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/

On 15 May 2017 16:58, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote:

> Make sure VOX is turned ON on the K3S.
>
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
>
> On 15 May 2017 16:20, Trevor Clapp wrote:
>> When I am using the K3S with an external transverter which uses the
>> key out line to change from RX to TX i am finding that with a paddle
>> input from my Winkeyer I cannot get the transverter to remain keyed.
>> Adjusting the CW delay does not increase the time btween keying and
>> the relay in the transverter clicking out.  So basically I get the
>> relay clicking on every keyed letter.
>>
>> I have dried full and semi break in with no difference.
>>
>> I do not have the same situation on the KX3 , but then I am not using
>> an external transverter, and wondered if there was another setting
>> somewhere that I should be looking at.
>>
>> 2EØLDZ Trevor Clapp M. 07900 49 77 11
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Don Wilhelm
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Trevor,

Make sure VOX is turned on for CW mode.  See page 33 of the manual.  The
Delay setting should control the amount of delay after each dit/dah or
if long enough it will not drop out until a significant time after
keying stops.

If your transverters use relays, I suggest that semi-breakin will work
better.  If you need even more control for T/R switching the
transveters, use PTT.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/15/2017 9:20 AM, Trevor Clapp wrote:
> When I am using the K3S with an external transverter which uses the key out line to change from RX to TX i am finding that with a paddle input from my Winkeyer I cannot get the transverter to remain keyed. Adjusting the CW delay does not increase the time btween keying and the relay in the transverter clicking out.  So basically I get the relay clicking on every keyed letter.
>
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Svend Spanget
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I recently connected a Kuhne TR 144 H +40 to my K3 in order to be QRV on 2 m for the upcoming Sporadic E season and weak signal dx.
I use the KXV3 with output power set to 1.5 mW (XV1 PWR = L 1.50).

It works fine but I have a few issues:

1. When switching on or after bandswitch the transverter is not driven to full output. A short XMIT in FM mode somehow restores the output and going back to SSB the output from the transverter is now as expected.

2. When using VOX with SSB the transverter is not keyed. Using PTT either with a footswitch or the pushbutton on my MH2 keys the transverter just fine. I have a cable connected to KEY OUT and the transverter.
Using VOX and SSB with my Henry 2KD-5 works perfect.

3. Calling CQ (or anything else) via KDVR3 also does not key the transverter. Works fine with good old Henry.

4. Transmitting on another band keys the transverter. This isn't a big issue as I can simply switch the transverter off and there is no output to the transverter but the red ON AIR lights up...

The first 3 issues are really annoying.
Am I the only one to experience this?
Are there ways to fix this?

Vy 73 de Svend, OZ7UV
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Don Wilhelm
Svend,

For the "1." problem, re-do the Transmit Gain Calibration, and be
certain to include the mW calibration.

As for the PTT not coming active when in transverter state, I have no
immediate answer, but suggest you contact K3support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, Svend Spanget wrote:

> I recently connected a Kuhne TR 144 H +40 to my K3 in order to be QRV on 2 m
> for the upcoming Sporadic E season and weak signal dx.
> I use the KXV3 with output power set to 1.5 mW (XV1 PWR = L 1.50).
>
> It works fine but I have a few issues:
>
> 1. When switching on or after bandswitch the transverter is not driven to
> full output. A short XMIT in FM mode somehow restores the output and going
> back to SSB the output from the transverter is now as expected.
>
> 2. When using VOX with SSB the transverter is not keyed. Using PTT either
> with a footswitch or the pushbutton on my MH2 keys the transverter just
> fine. I have a cable connected to KEY OUT and the transverter.
> Using VOX and SSB with my Henry 2KD-5 works perfect.
>
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Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Svend Spanget
Thanks, Don.

I already did both without any luck...

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Emne: Re: K3S CW Delay on KEY OUT ?

Svend, For the "1." problem, re-do the Transmit Gain Calibration, and be certain to include the mW calibration. As for the PTT not coming active when in transverter state, I have no immediate answer, but suggest you contact K3support. 73, Don W3FPR On 5/16/2017 4:19 AM, Svend Spanget wrote:
> I recently connected a Kuhne TR 144 H +40 to my K3 in order to be QRV on 2 m > for the upcoming Sporadic E season and weak signal dx. > I use the KXV3 with output power set to 1.5 mW (XV1 PWR = L 1.50). > > It works fine but I have a few issues: > > 1. When switching on or after bandswitch the transverter is not driven to > full output. A short XMIT in FM mode somehow restores the output and going > back to SSB the output from the transverter is now as expected. > > 2. When using VOX with SSB the transverter is not keyed. Using PTT either > with a footswitch or the pushbutton on my MH2 keys the transverter just > fine. I have a cable connected to KEY OUT and the transverter. > Using VOX and SSB with my Henry 2KD-5 works perfect. >
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