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James Bennett

K3S Data Connections

Folks,

I have a mid-2010 vintage K3 and more recent KX3 that I use for JT65/9, WSPR, and FLDIGI, in addition to CW. For those digital modes I run external USB sound cards - Tascam US-125M. On the K3 the Tascam connects to the K3 line in and line out and to the computer via USB. That's where the audio signals are exchanged. The K3 connects to the computer via a serial->USB device. With the digital modes, the rig control signals traverse this path. All well and good.

Now, a fellow Elecrafter with a K3S wants to do digital and has asked me what he needs. I know that rig has built in sound card, so I thought he wouldn't need the external unit like I have. But, not having a K3S, I'm confused how things work. The online manual (Data Mode Connections, pg. 33) says that "You can transmit and receive data in one of three ways". None of those three ways listed refer to that built in sound card.

I guess the bottom line question is: can one run a program like FLDIGI and/or WSJT-X on a K3S without the need for an external sound card, and still have those programs do full rig control like the K3 that I have? If yes, what connections are made between the radio and the computer...?

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA
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Bill Frantz

Re: K3S Data Connections

Works fine. I upgraded my K3 to the new USB interface. The only
change I had to make was to select the new "sound card" built
into the interface in my digital radio programs. The reduction
in cables behind the radio was very welcome.

Basically, the new interface has a hub with a USB <--> RS232 and
a USB sound card connected to it. Just select the individual
components in the same maner as when they were separate USB
connections to the computer. You only need one USB cable between
the K3/K3S and the computer.

73 Bill AE6JV

73 Bill AE6JV

On 7/31/16 at 9:46 PM, [hidden email] (James Bennett) wrote:

>Now, a fellow Elecrafter with a K3S wants to do digital and has
>asked me what he needs. I know that rig has built in sound
>card, so I thought he wouldn't need the external unit like I
>have. But, not having a K3S, I'm confused how things work. The
>online manual (Data Mode Connections, pg. 33) says that "You
>can transmit and receive data in one of three ways". None of
>those three ways listed refer to that built in sound card.
>
>I guess the bottom line question is: can one run a program like
>FLDIGI and/or WSJT-X on a K3S without the need for an external
>sound card, and still have those programs do full rig control
>like the K3 that I have? If yes, what connections are made
>between the radio and the computer...?

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Don Wilhelm

Re: K3S Data Connections

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Jim,

When connecting the K3S to the computer via a USB cable, both the
soundcard and the USB to serial adapter in the K3S should be recognized
by the computer.
Just steer the data mode software application to use the soundcard and
COM port that are assigned by the computer.

This is more of a computer situation than a K3S situation. Which
soundcard and which COM port is assigned is highly dependent on what the
computer does. If Windows, look in Device Manager to see the COM port
and soundcard assignments.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/1/2016 12:46 AM, James Bennett wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I have a mid-2010 vintage K3 and more recent KX3 that I use for JT65/9, WSPR, and FLDIGI, in addition to CW. For those digital modes I run external USB sound cards - Tascam US-125M. On the K3 the Tascam connects to the K3 line in and line out and to the computer via USB. That's where the audio signals are exchanged. The K3 connects to the computer via a serial->USB device. With the digital modes, the rig control signals traverse this path. All well and good.
>
> Now, a fellow Elecrafter with a K3S wants to do digital and has asked me what he needs. I know that rig has built in sound card, so I thought he wouldn't need the external unit like I have. But, not having a K3S, I'm confused how things work. The online manual (Data Mode Connections, pg. 33) says that "You can transmit and receive data in one of three ways". None of those three ways listed refer to that built in sound card.
>
> I guess the bottom line question is: can one run a program like FLDIGI and/or WSJT-X on a K3S without the need for an external sound card, and still have those programs do full rig control like the K3 that I have? If yes, what connections are made between the radio and the computer...?
>
>

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Nr4c

Re: K3S Data Connections

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Yes. You select the radio's audio codec as the sound device. All cat and laying/PTT functions are also available.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 12:46 AM, James Bennett <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I have a mid-2010 vintage K3 and more recent KX3 that I use for JT65/9, WSPR, and FLDIGI, in addition to CW. For those digital modes I run external USB sound cards - Tascam US-125M. On the K3 the Tascam connects to the K3 line in and line out and to the computer via USB. That's where the audio signals are exchanged. The K3 connects to the computer via a serial->USB device. With the digital modes, the rig control signals traverse this path. All well and good.
>
> Now, a fellow Elecrafter with a K3S wants to do digital and has asked me what he needs. I know that rig has built in sound card, so I thought he wouldn't need the external unit like I have. But, not having a K3S, I'm confused how things work. The online manual (Data Mode Connections, pg. 33) says that "You can transmit and receive data in one of three ways". None of those three ways listed refer to that built in sound card.
>
> I guess the bottom line question is: can one run a program like FLDIGI and/or WSJT-X on a K3S without the need for an external sound card, and still have those programs do full rig control like the K3 that I have? If yes, what connections are made between the radio and the computer...?
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
>
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: K3S Data Connections

> All cat and laying/PTT functions are also available.

*Except FSK.*

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 8/1/2016 10:15 AM, Nr4c wrote:
> Yes. You select the radio's audio codec as the sound device. All cat and laying/PTT functions are also available.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
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Nr4c

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FSK is not available on the Standard RS232 or KUSB single cable either. Needs extra Comm port.

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...nr4c. bill

> On Aug 1, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> > All cat and laying/PTT functions are also available.
>
> *Except FSK.*
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>> On 8/1/2016 10:15 AM, Nr4c wrote:
>> Yes. You select the radio's audio codec as the sound device. All cat and laying/PTT functions are also available.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
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