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ve3bwp
I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.  

I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.

Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.

Thanks.
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Jim Brown-10
On 2/9/2019 12:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.

Yamaha CM500 plugs straight into the rear panel mic and headphone jacks,
sounds great and is very comfortable. You'll need to turn on bias for
the mic (see the manual, simple menu settings). That will mute the
speaker, so most of us assign <SPKR + PHONES> to one of the PF buttons.
I use PF2.

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Don Wilhelm
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Brian,

Have you checked the Elecraft website.  The Heil ProSet-K2 is complete
and includes the adapter which allows it to be plugged into the
K2/K3/K3S Front Panel 8 pin mic jack and headphone jack.
Without the adapter, it can be plugged into the K3/K3S rear panel mic
and phones jacks.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 2/9/2019 3:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:
> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>
> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
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The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive
but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones. 
Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My
preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 2/9/2019 2:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:

> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>
> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>
> Thanks.
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3S boom mic ensemble options.

I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.

I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.

Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.

Thanks.
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The only issue with CM500 is the ear pads eventually wear out. I've had mine about 10 years and they're still serviceable, but on their way out. For the low cost, replacing them every decade isn't horrible.

It's clear these are an OEM product made for Yamaha by Koss. Koss sells replacement pads for their headsets $5 with free shipping. Has anyone figured out the correct crossover Koss model to get compatible pads?

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones.  Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>> On 2/9/2019 2:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:
>> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>>
>> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>>
>> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>>
>> Thanks.
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Josh,

Regarding ear pads for CM500, I ordered these from eBay, $13.49 including shipping:

Replacement ear pads cushion earpads pad cover for KOSS UR20 UR 20 headphones

Suggested by another Elecrafter.  The ear pads fit and are just a fraction of an inch large, and work just fine.

73
Hoop
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On Feb 9, 2019, at 4:27 PM, Josh Fiden <[hidden email]> wrote:

The only issue with CM500 is the ear pads eventually wear out. I've had mine about 10 years and they're still serviceable, but on their way out. For the low cost, replacing them every decade isn't horrible.

It's clear these are an OEM product made for Yamaha by Koss. Koss sells replacement pads for their headsets $5 with free shipping. Has anyone figured out the correct crossover Koss model to get compatible pads?

73
Josh W6XU

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones.  Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
>
>> On 2/9/2019 2:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:
>> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>>
>> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>>
>> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>>
>> Thanks.
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Everyone so far has recommended a headset with “boom@ mic.

I wonder if you mean a mic on a table mounted “boom”?

From the options you describe, I think this might be the case.

I have a Heil PL-2T boom with a Heil SM-1 Shock mount with a Heil HM-12 mic. You’ll also need a cable (use Kenwood config) and some form of PTT if you don’t use VOX (an unused J-38 works well). This sounds good on with my K3S and K3.

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>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones.  Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.
>
> The Koss SB-40 is essentially a Yamaha CM500 with a dynamic mic instead of an electret mic. Some people really don’t like the dynamic mic in the Koss SB-40. I’ve heard zero complaints about the electret in the CM500.
>
> The Koss SB-45 is a completely different headset design that does have an electret mic. It sells for $25, much less than the CM500 ($60).
>
> To muddy the waters further, my Yamaha CM500 has “KOSS” molded into the microphone plug.
>
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In that case, I have used one of these for a decade or more. It supports up to 8 pounds and doesn't make noises when you move it with a live mic.

https://www.bswusa.com/Microphone-Booms-OC-White-51900BLK-P4184.aspx

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On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:12 PM, Nr4c <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Everyone so far has recommended a headset with “boom@ mic.

I wonder if you mean a mic on a table mounted “boom”?

From the options you describe, I think this might be the case.

I have a Heil PL-2T boom with a Heil SM-1 Shock mount with a Heil HM-12 mic. You’ll also need a cable (use Kenwood config) and some form of PTT if you don’t use VOX (an unused J-38 works well). This sounds good on with my K3S and K3.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


On Feb 9, 2019, at 7:48 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones.  Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.

The Koss SB-40 is essentially a Yamaha CM500 with a dynamic mic instead of an electret mic. Some people really don’t like the dynamic mic in the Koss SB-40. I’ve heard zero complaints about the electret in the CM500.

The Koss SB-45 is a completely different headset design that does have an electret mic. It sells for $25, much less than the CM500 ($60).

To muddy the waters further, my Yamaha CM500 has “KOSS” molded into the microphone plug.

wunder
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Grant Youngman-2
Same here.  Most of the spring loaded “booms” sold for the ham market are pure junk — wimpy springs, fall apart, basically cheap lampshade holders.

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> On Feb 9, 2019, at 8:34 PM, hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> In that case, I have used one of these for a decade or more. It supports up to 8 pounds and doesn't make noises when you move it with a live mic.
>
> https://www.bswusa.com/Microphone-Booms-OC-White-51900BLK-P4184.aspx
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Yes, I've heard the complaints about the Koss SB-40.   I've used mine
with great audio reports {even the AM fellows approve} and I've
critically listened to the radio using the SB-40.   For those that have
gotten bad reports, the solution is very simple.   It is known as "mike
technique".

The placement of the mike is very critical.  Funny as it may seem, place
the mike about 1" off of the end of the nose.  Never below it, and never
below the chin, and never in front of the mouth.   It is a dynamic mike
which does exhibit proximity effect.   A known fact.   Below the nose
and one "snorts" like a bull as they exhale.   Below the chin and the
breath pops are excessive as the upper lip and roof of the mouth directs
the burst of the "P" downward.  Plus it will get baptized when one
drinks coffee.   At the end of the nose, there's no snorts, there's no
breath pops, there's no proximity effect, and the element doesn't build
up spittal.   And one can still drink coffee without giving the mike a
baptism.

As to EQ, and this applies for the C500 as well, just roll off every
thing below 200 Hz to -16 dB and 400 Hz about -3 dB to -6 dB.  You'll
sound like Don Pardo.......assuming you have the pipes.

73

Bob, K4TAX



On 2/9/2019 6:48 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

>> On Feb 9, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> The Yahama C-500 and the Koss SB-40 are two good ones.   Not expensive but comfortable and good sounding for both the mike and the earphones.  Either works very well with the K3S.   I know, I have all of them.  My preference is the Koss SB-40 over the Yamaha C-500.
> The Koss SB-40 is essentially a Yamaha CM500 with a dynamic mic instead of an electret mic. Some people really don’t like the dynamic mic in the Koss SB-40. I’ve heard zero complaints about the electret in the CM500.
>
> The Koss SB-45 is a completely different headset design that does have an electret mic. It sells for $25, much less than the CM500 ($60).
>
> To muddy the waters further, my Yamaha CM500 has “KOSS” molded into the microphone plug.
>
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Brian

My first thought was that you were asking about a "studio type boom" for
your microphone.  If so read on, if not delete now.  I bought the PSA1
boom from R0DE on Amazon for a decent price.  Mine came with both the
edge clamp base and the "cone" base for putting in a hole drilled into
your desk.  Mounting it on the edge of the station desk was very very
easy.  One day I may get around to drilling a hole.

http://www.rode.com/accessories/psa1

I have used the R0DE PSA1 boom for the last 3 years and it has worked
very well with zero problems on holding the mic wherever I want it nor
has there been any problems with the clamp holding firmly to the edge of
the station table/shelving.  There is a weight spec for the microphone
that is to be used with the boom so be sure to look at that.  Buy the
boom, put whatever XLR mic you want on it and buy the Heil XLR cable
needed for your mic and radio.  You're then done with the hardware and
it's just a matter of setting up your mic in the radio.  I have used the
Heil PR781 and a nice Shure on the boom with no problems.  Good luck.

Scott
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On 2/9/2019 2:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:

> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>
> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

John Simmons
Heil sound has a wide selection of mics and booms. Bob even has
recommended starting points for the K3 TX eq settings. You can buy them
from Bob, or you may find a lower price from a dealer.

73,
-John NI0K

> Scott <mailto:[hidden email]>
> Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:49 PM
> Brian
>
> My first thought was that you were asking about a "studio type boom"
> for your microphone.  If so read on, if not delete now.  I bought the
> PSA1 boom from R0DE on Amazon for a decent price.  Mine came with both
> the edge clamp base and the "cone" base for putting in a hole drilled
> into your desk.  Mounting it on the edge of the station desk was very
> very easy.  One day I may get around to drilling a hole.
>
> http://www.rode.com/accessories/psa1
>
> I have used the R0DE PSA1 boom for the last 3 years and it has worked
> very well with zero problems on holding the mic wherever I want it nor
> has there been any problems with the clamp holding firmly to the edge
> of the station table/shelving.  There is a weight spec for the
> microphone that is to be used with the boom so be sure to look at
> that.  Buy the boom, put whatever XLR mic you want on it and buy the
> Heil XLR cable needed for your mic and radio.  You're then done with
> the hardware and it's just a matter of setting up your mic in the
> radio.  I have used the Heil PR781 and a nice Shure on the boom with
> no problems.  Good luck.
>
> Scott
> AD5HS
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> Saturday, February 09, 2019 2:53 PM
> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set
> for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the
> Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold
> in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our
> local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>
> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity
> comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long
> time.
>
> Thanks.
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
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The point a bit confusing to me was the expression "boom mic set".   Is
the requirement for a mike boom and a mike with a cable?   Or is the
requirement for a headset, which I take to be headphones with a mike on
attached boom?

I've one of these desk booms I've used very satisfactorily supporting my
Heil PR-781 which is heavy and the Shure SM-58 which is much lighter. 
While it offers two mounting systems, I opted for screwing the base onto
the surface as opposed to the clamp-on mounting.

https://www.amazon.com/LyxPro-Adjustable-Microphone-Suspension-Scissor/dp/B075MS16S8/ref=sr_1_10?crid=1NIJNRZDYU1N3&keywords=microphone+boom+arm&qid=1549858083&refinements=p_72%3A2661618011&rnid=2661617011&s=gateway&sprefix=microphone+boom%2Caps%2C283&sr=8-10

As to mikes, connectors and cables.  I choose to buy a good quality
Amphenol XLR connector and a Foster 8 pin connector and a bit of 2
conductor shielded cable and make my own.  I find this combination much
more reliable and much less expensive than the adapters.   And I believe
more connectors and adapters in a signal path equal more problems.  
Thus 2 connectors and one cable is highly reliable.  FYI - Has been this
way in the recording studio environment for years and years.

73
Bob, K4TAX


>
> On 2/9/2019 2:53 PM, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk wrote:
>> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set
>> for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the
>> Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is
>> sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no
>> reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.
>>
>> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>>
>> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity
>> comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long
>> time.
>>
>> Thanks.

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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

ve3bwp
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"I wonder if you mean a mic on a table mounted “boom”?  Correct!

From the options you describe, I think this might be the case.

I have a Heil PL-2T boom with a Heil SM-1 Shock mount with a Heil HM-12 mic. You’ll also need a cable (use Kenwood config) and some form of PTT if you don’t use VOX (an unused J-38 works well). This sounds good on with my K3S and K3.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill”

Yes this is exactly the info I was after!        

As for PTT I use an old dictation machine foot pedal.

Bill as my K3S has not arrived yet I’m wondering which cable as I’m not sure what type of jack the K3S mic-in is..

- Heil HSTA KM For Kenwood modular?
- or Heil HSTA K8 For Kenwood 8 pin?

Much appreciated.

Thanks
Brian ve3bwp







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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Best advice.........down load the K3S manual from the Elecraft
website.   You'll need to read it 3 or 4 times before you get the
radio.  It has info about all the connections, front panel and rear
panel.   And will familiarize you with the menus and controls.    It is
easy to understand and only 90 pages including a GOOD index.

Otherwise like many hams........get the radio, connect a bunch of wires,
cram connectors in places which they look like they fit, turn it on,
turn lots of knobs, push lots of buttons, change things
and.........wonder what in the heck they did to make it stop working.

73

Bob, K4TAX


> Bill as my K3S has not arrived yet I’m wondering which cable as I’m not sure what type of jack the K3S mic-in is..
>
> - Heil HSTA KM For Kenwood modular?
> - or Heil HSTA K8 For Kenwood 8 pin?
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Brian ve3bwp
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Jim Brown-10
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On 2/10/2019 8:16 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
> I choose to buy a good quality Amphenol XLR connector and a Foster 8
> pin connector and a bit of 2 conductor shielded cable and make my own.

Strongly agree, EXCEPT that, for nearly 30 years, Switchcraft and
Neutrik have OWNED the market for pro audio connectors because of their
exceptional quality AND their very nice redesigns to make them a LOT
easier to terminate. Amphenol is still big in some RF connectors, but I
don't remember the last time I saw an Amphenol XLR that wasn't at least
30 years old. BTW -- for almost that long, I've been a member of AES
Standards Committee Working Groups, including ones that address
Microphones and Connectors.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Nr4c
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The 8pin “Foster” plug. NOT THE MODULAR!  

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Feb 10, 2019, at 11:30 PM, Brian ve3bwp Pietrzyk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> "I wonder if you mean a mic on a table mounted “boom”?  Correct!
>
> From the options you describe, I think this might be the case.
>
> I have a Heil PL-2T boom with a Heil SM-1 Shock mount with a Heil HM-12 mic. You’ll also need a cable (use Kenwood config) and some form of PTT if you don’t use VOX (an unused J-38 works well). This sounds good on with my K3S and K3.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill”
>
> Yes this is exactly the info I was after!        
>
> As for PTT I use an old dictation machine foot pedal.
>
> Bill as my K3S has not arrived yet I’m wondering which cable as I’m not sure what type of jack the K3S mic-in is..
>
> - Heil HSTA KM For Kenwood modular?
> - or Heil HSTA K8 For Kenwood 8 pin?
>
> Much appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Brian ve3bwp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

ve3bwp
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Hi Don thanks for this.

I’m in Canada and I finally went to Radioworld.ca <http://radioworld.ca/> who is our Heil dealer.

With the great response I got from this group and input from them this is the order they put together for me…

HEI-HM12 Desk Microphone using Heil Sound Standard CC-1 Connecting Cable System
HEI-SM1   Shock mount for boom microphones
HEI-PL2T  Proline balanced arm with topless boom mount
HEI-DT1    Flush mount for desktop mounting of the PL-2T.
HEI-HSTAK Adapter cable, traveller to Kenwood 8 Pin (remove)

I’ve just put a question into them about the cable that goes from the mic, through the boom and into the 8 pin Kenwood adapter cable. How does this order look?

Not sure if a “traveller cable" is part of this or I need to order a separate one. Doesn’t look like it from the website.

As for Bob being away, that’s fine. I’m just surprised he would not have put an auto reply message letting anyone know he’s away. That would save folks from being left to flap in the wind never knowing if a reply will ever come.

Unless I’ve missed something he’d probably sell a lot more of these things if he took some of the friction and guess work out of configuring and ordering for those of us without a commercial broadcast history.

I just tried calling in but all the technical staff will not be back from Florida yet but it sounds like I need a..
HEI-HSTAK Adapter cable, traveller to Kenwood 8 Pin  

and not the HEI-HSTAK Adapter cable, traveller to Kenwood 8 Pin. Oh and when they say modular cable they mean an RJ45 connector.

Phew!

Thanks,

Brian ve3bwp

>
> On Feb 11, 2019, at 3:55 PM, Don Roberts <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Brian, I use a Heil Classic with a boom mount I got from Cheap Ham. It is heavy duty, close to what I used in my broadcast career. Have had no issues with it. The Heil mics usually use a four pin XLR. Just get the XLR to Kenwood cable and it plugs right into the K3/K3S.
>
> Bob Heil was in Orlando at the Hamcation this last weekend which probably was why you didn't get a response. He does sell complete boom mic kits with his mics. If no email response, call him
>
> Don, W4CBS
>
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> On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 15:54, Brian “VE3BWP” Pietrzyk
> <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I will soon have a K3S and I’ve been in the market for a boom mic set for the shack. This will be my first boom mic. I’ve checked out the Hiel site and could not find any complete packages. Everything is sold in too many subassemblies. I’ve tried emailing them but no reply. Our local ham store (radioworld.ca) only sells in pieces as well.  
>
> I’d prefer a tried and tested set ready to go boom mic set for the K3S.
>
> Any recommendations? In this case value (performance and longevity comes ahead of price) for me. I plan to keep this station for a long time.
>
> Thanks.

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Re: K3S boom mic ensemble options.

Jim Brown-10
On 2/11/2019 2:39 PM, Brian ve3bwp Pietrzyk wrote:
> With the great response I got from this group and input from them this is the order they put together for me…

Headset and boom mic preferences are a very personal thing, subject to
our operating style, shape of our head and ears, whether we want to be
locked in position in front of a boom mic, are well enough coordinated
to use a foot switch, or even have illusions of a "real radio station."

My personal choice is a headset with a boom mic and VOX, and the CM500
fulfills that need. If I were going with a mic on a boom like you're
describing, the mic would be an RE11, RE16, RE18, or RE20. They're
dynamic mics and nearly indestructible, so it's quite safe to buy one
used from a trustworthy source. The RE20 is quite popular with talk
jocks. As far as ham radio is concerned, it is massive overkill, but it
does look impressive. :)

Because I worked in pro audio and did a lot of music recording, I own a
bunch of RE16s and RE20s, as well as AKG boom stands. Before W6XU
introduced our contesting club to the CM500, I used an RE16 on an AKG
boom stand.

I consider Heil products to be poor quality and wildly overpriced for
what they are.

73, Jim K9YC

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