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K3S with Ham Radio Deluxe, DM780 and WSJT-X

David Needham
Hello,

I am new to the group and just completed my K3S. I have been able to get
Rig Control to work with my version 6.4.0.633 of Ham Radio Deluxe and CW
Send/receive on DM780 using CW(KY cmd), but no luck with PSK, RTTY and
WSJT-X.

Does anyone have the setting to get PSK31 and RTTY to work with DM780?

How about using WSJT-X where the Rig is Ham Radio Deluxe?

Thanks,
Dave, K8AJA
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Re: K3S with Ham Radio Deluxe, DM780 and WSJT-X

Don Wilhelm
Dave,

CW via KY commands is quite different than the soundcard data modes
(PSK, RTTY, WSJT-X).

For those DATA modes, you need to put the K3S into DATA A mode.
Then set the MIC SEL in the K3S to LINE IN.
The soundcard selected should be the CODEC in the K3S.
Make certain there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S -
that takes precedence over the internal soundcard output.

Once you have the correct soundcard set up in the computer, initially
leave the K3S LINE OUT menu set to the default of 010.  You can adjust
it later if you need fine adjustment.
Set the soundcard to use LINE IN instead of MIC if you can.  Then set
the computer volume sliders so you get a decent waterfall display.

On the transmit side of things, initially set the computer LINE OUT (or
SPKR if you can't get LINE OUT) to about 50%.  Put the K3S into TX TEST
mode so you do not produce RF.
Do a transmit from the digital application.
While transmitting, adjust the K3S MIC GAIN (Actually LINE IN gain) to
produce 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flickering on the ALC meter.  You
may have to shuffle back and forth between the computer LINE OUT (or
SPKR) slider and the K3S MIC GAIN to achieve that condition.

Once you have those settings correct, go out of TX TEST and operate.

Ignore the common internet advice to adjust the power output with the
audio level - it does not work well with Elecraft gear.  Adjust the
POWER knob to the desired power output.

I cannot answer about WSJT-X through HRD, but WSJT-X is "just another
soundcard data mode", and the same things that apply to PSK and RTTY are
applicable to WSJT-X.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 7/6/2017 6:14 PM, David Needham wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am new to the group and just completed my K3S. I have been able to get
> Rig Control to work with my version 6.4.0.633 of Ham Radio Deluxe and CW
> Send/receive on DM780 using CW(KY cmd), but no luck with PSK, RTTY and
> WSJT-X.
>
> Does anyone have the setting to get PSK31 and RTTY to work with DM780?
>
> How about using WSJT-X where the Rig is Ham Radio Deluxe?
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Re: K3S with Ham Radio Deluxe, DM780 and WSJT-X

David Needham
Thanks, Don,
I will give that a try.

I am using the USB cable to my Win 10 PC. It installed COMM 8 and COMM 9. I
must not have the PTT settings right, yet. I can't get it to key the radio.
Do you know what those should be?

73,
Dave, K8AJA

On Jul 6, 2017 6:44 PM, "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> CW via KY commands is quite different than the soundcard data modes (PSK,
> RTTY, WSJT-X).
>
> For those DATA modes, you need to put the K3S into DATA A mode.
> Then set the MIC SEL in the K3S to LINE IN.
> The soundcard selected should be the CODEC in the K3S.
> Make certain there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S -
> that takes precedence over the internal soundcard output.
>
> Once you have the correct soundcard set up in the computer, initially
> leave the K3S LINE OUT menu set to the default of 010.  You can adjust it
> later if you need fine adjustment.
> Set the soundcard to use LINE IN instead of MIC if you can.  Then set the
> computer volume sliders so you get a decent waterfall display.
>
> On the transmit side of things, initially set the computer LINE OUT (or
> SPKR if you can't get LINE OUT) to about 50%.  Put the K3S into TX TEST
> mode so you do not produce RF.
> Do a transmit from the digital application.
> While transmitting, adjust the K3S MIC GAIN (Actually LINE IN gain) to
> produce 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flickering on the ALC meter.  You may
> have to shuffle back and forth between the computer LINE OUT (or SPKR)
> slider and the K3S MIC GAIN to achieve that condition.
>
> Once you have those settings correct, go out of TX TEST and operate.
>
> Ignore the common internet advice to adjust the power output with the
> audio level - it does not work well with Elecraft gear.  Adjust the POWER
> knob to the desired power output.
>
> I cannot answer about WSJT-X through HRD, but WSJT-X is "just another
> soundcard data mode", and the same things that apply to PSK and RTTY are
> applicable to WSJT-X.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 7/6/2017 6:14 PM, David Needham wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to the group and just completed my K3S. I have been able to get
>> Rig Control to work with my version 6.4.0.633 of Ham Radio Deluxe and CW
>> Send/receive on DM780 using CW(KY cmd), but no luck with PSK, RTTY and
>> WSJT-X.
>>
>> Does anyone have the setting to get PSK31 and RTTY to work with DM780?
>>
>> How about using WSJT-X where the Rig is Ham Radio Deluxe?
>>
>
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Re: K3S with Ham Radio Deluxe, DM780 and WSJT-X

David Needham
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Don,
I unplugged the USB cable and loaded the FTDI driver from scratch. I
actually hadn't done that when I loaded the K3S utility. HRD sound card
modes key the PTT correctly now. I'll get the levels set correctly per your
suggestions tomorrow.

Thanks for the help!

73,
Dave, K8AJA
*********************

Dave,

CW via KY commands is quite different than the soundcard data modes (PSK,
RTTY, WSJT-X).

For those DATA modes, you need to put the K3S into DATA A mode.
Then set the MIC SEL in the K3S to LINE IN.
The soundcard selected should be the CODEC in the K3S.
Make certain there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S -
that takes precedence over the internal soundcard output.

Once you have the correct soundcard set up in the computer, initially leave
the K3S LINE OUT menu set to the default of 010.  You can adjust it later
if you need fine adjustment.
Set the soundcard to use LINE IN instead of MIC if you can.  Then set the
computer volume sliders so you get a decent waterfall display.

On the transmit side of things, initially set the computer LINE OUT (or
SPKR if you can't get LINE OUT) to about 50%.  Put the K3S into TX TEST
mode so you do not produce RF.
Do a transmit from the digital application.
While transmitting, adjust the K3S MIC GAIN (Actually LINE IN gain) to
produce 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flickering on the ALC meter.  You may
have to shuffle back and forth between the computer LINE OUT (or SPKR)
slider and the K3S MIC GAIN to achieve that condition.

Once you have those settings correct, go out of TX TEST and operate.

Ignore the common internet advice to adjust the power output with the audio
level - it does not work well with Elecraft gear.  Adjust the POWER knob to
the desired power output.

I cannot answer about WSJT-X through HRD, but WSJT-X is "just another
soundcard data mode", and the same things that apply to PSK and RTTY are
applicable to WSJT-X.

73,
Don W3FPR

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 6:44 PM, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Dave,
>
> CW via KY commands is quite different than the soundcard data modes (PSK,
> RTTY, WSJT-X).
>
> For those DATA modes, you need to put the K3S into DATA A mode.
> Then set the MIC SEL in the K3S to LINE IN.
> The soundcard selected should be the CODEC in the K3S.
> Make certain there is nothing plugged into the LINE IN jack on the K3S -
> that takes precedence over the internal soundcard output.
>
> Once you have the correct soundcard set up in the computer, initially
> leave the K3S LINE OUT menu set to the default of 010.  You can adjust it
> later if you need fine adjustment.
> Set the soundcard to use LINE IN instead of MIC if you can.  Then set the
> computer volume sliders so you get a decent waterfall display.
>
> On the transmit side of things, initially set the computer LINE OUT (or
> SPKR if you can't get LINE OUT) to about 50%.  Put the K3S into TX TEST
> mode so you do not produce RF.
> Do a transmit from the digital application.
> While transmitting, adjust the K3S MIC GAIN (Actually LINE IN gain) to
> produce 4 bars solid with the 5th bar flickering on the ALC meter.  You may
> have to shuffle back and forth between the computer LINE OUT (or SPKR)
> slider and the K3S MIC GAIN to achieve that condition.
>
> Once you have those settings correct, go out of TX TEST and operate.
>
> Ignore the common internet advice to adjust the power output with the
> audio level - it does not work well with Elecraft gear.  Adjust the POWER
> knob to the desired power output.
>
> I cannot answer about WSJT-X through HRD, but WSJT-X is "just another
> soundcard data mode", and the same things that apply to PSK and RTTY are
> applicable to WSJT-X.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
> On 7/6/2017 6:14 PM, David Needham wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to the group and just completed my K3S. I have been able to get
>> Rig Control to work with my version 6.4.0.633 of Ham Radio Deluxe and CW
>> Send/receive on DM780 using CW(KY cmd), but no luck with PSK, RTTY and
>> WSJT-X.
>>
>> Does anyone have the setting to get PSK31 and RTTY to work with DM780?
>>
>> How about using WSJT-X where the Rig is Ham Radio Deluxe?
>>
>
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