K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

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K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

LarryJ
When I click the menu item Help in the K3Util and P3Util,  I see a popup that says "The help System encountered a problem.  The GtkHTML library required by the HTML Help Viewer is not installed".

If I start the K3Util in a terminal (using  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS),  then I see
>  ./p3util
> Could not load libGtkHTML
> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
So I assume I'm missing the  64 bit package that provides  libgvfsdbus.so.   Does anyone know what that package is?

Thanks,
Larry W0AY
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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

David Fleming-2
Larry,

I believe you need to install libGtkHTML. If you are on 64-bit, make sure the 32-bit compatibility libraries are installed. The 32-bit version of libGtkHTML should be included in the compatibility libraries.

sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

David, W4SMT


--- On Tue, 1/10/12, Larry J on Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop <[hidden email]> wrote:

> When I click the menu item Help in
> the K3Util and P3Util,  I see a popup that says "The
> help System encountered a problem.  The GtkHTML library
> required by the HTML Help Viewer is not installed".
>
> If I start the K3Util in a terminal (using  Ubuntu
> 10.04 LTS),  then I see
> >  ./p3util
> > Could not load libGtkHTML
> > /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class:
> ELFCLASS64
> > Failed to load module:
> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
> So I assume I'm missing the  64 bit package that
> provides  libgvfsdbus.so.   Does anyone
> know what that package is?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry W0AY
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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

Scott-2
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Larry,
First, compile/install the GtkHTML library... that would be libGtkHTML
or some package named something VERY similar.  It ALSO appears that
libgvfsdbus is installed but you have the 32 bit version and you need
the 64 bit version.  If there are two versions of the library, 32 bit
and 64 bit, install/compile the 64 bit library.  It looks like a
dependency link may be missing or incorrect, either for the binary file
or compilation process.

I am hoping you know how to compile/install software libraries in
Ubuntu, if not, maybe you should not be using Ubuntu, OR go to an Ubuntu
help site and figure out how to compile/install software in that Linux
OS.  FWIW, all Linux distros are not the same when it comes to
installing software.  Good luck.

Scott
KF5MHS

On 1/10/2012 11:47 AM, Larry J on Ubuntu 10.04 Desktop wrote:

> When I click the menu item Help in the K3Util and P3Util,  I see a popup that says "The help System encountered a problem.  The GtkHTML library required by the HTML Help Viewer is not installed".
>
> If I start the K3Util in a terminal (using  Ubuntu 10.04 LTS),  then I see
>>   ./p3util
>> Could not load libGtkHTML
>> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
>> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
> So I assume I'm missing the  64 bit package that provides  libgvfsdbus.so.   Does anyone know what that package is?
>
> Thanks,
> Larry W0AY
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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

Pierfrancesco Caci
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>>>>> "David" == David Fleming <[hidden email]> writes:


    David> Larry,
    David> I believe you need to install libGtkHTML. If you are on 64-bit, make sure the 32-bit compatibility libraries are installed. The 32-bit version of libGtkHTML should be included in the compatibility libraries.

    David> sudo apt-get install ia32-libs

afaik, libGtkHTML 32 bits compatibility library is not provided with
64 bits ubuntu 10.04. That library is needed only to see the help pages of
k3util, so no functionality is lost.
Now, it's 2012, can we *pleeeeease* have a native 64 bit version of the
utility? And also a standalone html or pdf copy of the help file,
pointing the browser to the Help directory gives a lot of broken links.

Pf

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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

LarryJ
I agree 100 percent with Pierfrancesco!!! (See excerpt below)   If I had a native 64 bit binary for the Elecraft P3/ K3 Utility,  I wouldn't have to come begging here.  After all, I just spent  more than $4000 on this hardware.   Better yet,  Elecraft:  Open the  source your dam Utilities  and I'll compile my own.

Elecraft:  I'm willing to go  NDA  so that you could provide source for the P3/K3 utilities to me, I'll compile, maintain,  and package  64 bit versions  and put it in a PPA for all to access freely.  No charge to you.  Let me know.

Larry W0AY

On 01/10/2012 11:37 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:
> Now, it's 2012, can we*pleeeeease*  have a native 64 bit version of the
> utility? And also a standalone html or pdf copy of the help file,
> pointing the browser to the Help directory gives a lot of broken links.
>
> Pf

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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

David Fleming-2
The Linux versions of the Utilities share the same source code with the Mac versions. They are developed and maintained on the Mac using Real Studio. Real Studio provides cross-compilation for Mac and Linux (and Windows). Real Studio does not yet support 64-bit Linux. So until it does, I have no way of providing 64-bit. If someone would like to take on the task of porting all of the Utilities to native Linux, I'm sure it could be arranged. But it would be a *massive* project. The Elecraft Utilities are not trivial apps. They have been in development for years. I'm not sure that investing the time and effort necessary would be worth it - just to get a 64-bit binary. The 32-bit versions works just fine on 64-bit as long as the 32-bit compatibility libraries are installed.

David, W4SMT

--- On Wed, 1/11/12, Larry J on his Dell LT <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I agree 100 percent with
> Pierfrancesco!!! (See excerpt below)   If I
> had a native 64 bit binary for the Elecraft P3/ K3
> Utility,  I wouldn't have to come begging here. 
> After all, I just spent  more than $4000 on this
> hardware.   Better yet,  Elecraft: 
> Open the  source your dam Utilities  and I'll
> compile my own.
>
> Elecraft:  I'm willing to go  NDA  so that
> you could provide source for the P3/K3 utilities to me, I'll
> compile, maintain,  and package  64 bit
> versions  and put it in a PPA for all to access
> freely.  No charge to you.  Let me know.
>
> Larry W0AY
>
> On 01/10/2012 11:37 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:
> > Now, it's 2012, can we*pleeeeease*  have a native
> 64 bit version of the
> > utility? And also a standalone html or pdf copy of the
> help file,
> > pointing the browser to the Help directory gives a lot
> of broken links.
> >
> > Pf
>
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Re: K3Util and P3Util Error: Help System encountered a problem. [Linux Ubuntu 10.04]

LarryJ
David,

Bummer.    That wasn't the answer I was hoping for.  I agree conversion from the proprietary development environment would be, at the very least, difficult and, worse yet,  probably not something I am capable of doing.  Thanks for your reply and explanation.

For benefit of others who may pass this way,  I did discover that I can create something similar to a help file by opening my Chrome browser on the file K3Util.htm located in the folder Help-K3.   So, for example, in my browser address space (where the http:// address usually goes)  I inserted "file:///home/lj/Desktop/K3/Help-K3/K3Util.htm"  This mostly works but is missing a diagram or two which you have to fish out yourself.  This would probably work on the P3Util package also.   Not a well integrated solution but a work around while we wait for Real Studio to support 64bits.

Larry  W0AY

  On 01/11/2012 10:46 AM, David Fleming wrote:

> The Linux versions of the Utilities share the same source code with the Mac versions. They are developed and maintained on the Mac using Real Studio. Real Studio provides cross-compilation for Mac and Linux (and Windows). Real Studio does not yet support 64-bit Linux. So until it does, I have no way of providing 64-bit. If someone would like to take on the task of porting all of the Utilities to native Linux, I'm sure it could be arranged. But it would be a *massive* project. The Elecraft Utilities are not trivial apps. They have been in development for years. I'm not sure that investing the time and effort necessary would be worth it - just to get a 64-bit binary. The 32-bit versions works just fine on 64-bit as long as the 32-bit compatibility libraries are installed.
>
> David, W4SMT
>
> --- On Wed, 1/11/12, Larry J on his Dell LT<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> I agree 100 percent with
>> Pierfrancesco!!! (See excerpt below)   If I
>> had a native 64 bit binary for the Elecraft P3/ K3
>> Utility,  I wouldn't have to come begging here.
>> After all, I just spent  more than $4000 on this
>> hardware.   Better yet,  Elecraft:
>> Open the  source your dam Utilities  and I'll
>> compile my own.
>>
>> Elecraft:  I'm willing to go  NDA  so that
>> you could provide source for the P3/K3 utilities to me, I'll
>> compile, maintain,  and package  64 bit
>> versions  and put it in a PPA for all to access
>> freely.  No charge to you.  Let me know.
>>
>> Larry W0AY
>>
>> On 01/10/2012 11:37 PM, Pierfrancesco Caci wrote:
>>> Now, it's 2012, can we*pleeeeease*  have a native
>> 64 bit version of the
>>> utility? And also a standalone html or pdf copy of the
>> help file,
>>> pointing the browser to the Help directory gives a lot
>> of broken links.
>>> Pf
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