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Barry LaZar
I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really
impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few
questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or
can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on
the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW
Skimmer; This requires a MME format.


I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my
present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic
radio.


73,

Barry

K3NDM

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Re: K4 Questions

Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:

>  is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency
> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
> less on data modes.


Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen)
has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide, etc.


> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?


Probably it will work the same as a K3.


> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This
> requires a MME format.
>

I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.

73,
Bob, N6TV
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Re: K4 Questions

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I hope they follow Flex Radio's lead and have something similar to DAX
to share out the audio. Really makes it clean and easy. The idea of
having to connect another SDR is so 2000.
73,
Steve
W1SRD
(In the dark in ELDO county waiting for PG&E...)

On 8/14/2020 21:01, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>>   is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency
>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
>> less on data modes.
>
> Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
> available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen)
> has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide, etc.
>
>
>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
>
> Probably it will work the same as a K3.
>
>
>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This
>> requires a MME format.
>>
> I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
> would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
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Re: K4 Questions

Barry LaZar
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Bob,

     Thanks much for the response.

73,

Barry

K3NDM

On 8/15/2020 12:01 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>      is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the
>     frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
>     less on data modes.
>
>
> Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
> available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off
> screen) has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page,
> slide, etc.
>
>     Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
>
>
> Probably it will work the same as a K3.
>
>     Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer;
>     This requires a MME format.
>
>
> I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
> would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the
> SDR frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
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Re: K4 Questions

Nr4c
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Barry

Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB?  Or was it posed as a question or suggestion?

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency
>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
>> less on data modes.
>
>
> Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
> available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen)
> has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide, etc.
>
>
>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
>
>
> Probably it will work the same as a K3.
>
>
>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This
>> requires a MME format.
>>
>
> I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
> would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
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Re: K4 Questions

wayne burdick
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Yes, IQ data will be available.

Wayne
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> On Aug 11, 2020, at 5:52 PM, Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I just saw the presentation Eric gave on the K4. It is really impressive. However, I've never been able to get the answer to a few questions. First, is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or less on data modes. Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D? Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This requires a MME format.
>
>
> I'm sure I will have additional questions over time. But, these are my present burning questions. I now have a K3s and think it's a fantastic radio.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Barry
>
> K3NDM
>
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Re: K4 Questions

Barry K3NDM
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Bill,
     I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Barry
>
> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB?  Or was it posed
> as a question or suggestion?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency
> >> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
> >> less on data modes.
> >
> >
> > Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
> > available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen)
> > has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide, etc.
> >
> >
> >> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
> >
> >
> > Probably it will work the same as a K3.
> >
> >
> >> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This
> >> requires a MME format.
> >>
> >
> > I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
> > would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
> > frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
> >
> > 73,
> > Bob, N6TV
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Re: K4 Questions

Grant Youngman-2
I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90 minute Q&As at the Expo.

I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB.  But I could be mistaken, since I’m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver’s license … if I can remember where that is :-)

Whichever it is, it didn’t sound like it was going to be a first release feature.

Grant NQ5T

> On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>     I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Barry
>>
>> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB?  Or was it posed
>> as a question or suggestion?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the frequency
>>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
>>>> less on data modes.
>>>
>>>
>>> Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
>>> available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off screen)
>>> has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
>>>
>>>
>>> Probably it will work the same as a K3.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer; This
>>>> requires a MME format.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
>>> would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
>>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Bob, N6TV
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Re: K4 Questions

Barry K3NDM
Grant,
     I know how you feel. It seems I'm missing a bunch of information. I
guess it must be my advancing age.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 11:53 AM Grant Youngman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I recall that Eric answered a question about that during one of the two 90
> minute Q&As at the Expo.
>
> I think he said it may be available at some point, but indicated it was
> possibly over ethernet (?) rather than USB.  But I could be mistaken, since
> I’m lucky to remember my name unless I look at my driver’s license … if I
> can remember where that is :-)
>
> Whichever it is, it didn’t sound like it was going to be a first release
> feature.
>
> Grant NQ5T
>
> > On Aug 15, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Barry LaZar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> >     I really don't know. If it was posted, I missed it.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry
> > K3NDM
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 15, 2020, 2:27 AM Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >> Barry
> >>
> >> Did I read months ago that I/Q might be available on USB?  Or was it
> posed
> >> as a question or suggestion?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> ...nr4c. bill
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Aug 15, 2020, at 12:03 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 5:51 PM Barry LaZar <[hidden email]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> is the pan presentation fixed as to frequency span or can the
> frequency
> >>>> span be adjusted; I typically use 25-50 KHz on CW or
> >>>> less on data modes.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Span and center frequency are adjustable.  Fixed or tracking mode is
> >>> available.  Scrolling mode (to prevent VFO cursor from going off
> screen)
> >>> has different options, similar to P3:  full page, half page, slide,
> etc.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Next can the xvter IF out be used as the IF out on the K4D?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Probably it will work the same as a K3.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Or, is the I&Q available for use o0n applications like CW Skimmer;
> This
> >>>> requires a MME format.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think that will work.  Connecting a separate SDR to RX ANT OUT
> >>> would be a simpler way to do it.  A program like HDSDR can keep the SDR
> >>> frequency in sync with the K4 frequency.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Bob, N6TV
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